adam

Looking at our pick numbers and by projecting compensatory picks, it looks like we will have the following picks: 1st - #7 2nd - #39 3rd - #71 4th - #106 (3x 3rd round compensatory picks push ours back 3) 5th - #141 (4x 4th round compensatory picks push ours back 4 - from NYJ) 6th - #180 (6x 5th round compensatory picks push ours back 6) So I agree the most likely trading partners are CLE, NO, and PHI for #7. CLE and NO have the better picks as Philly at #20 would have to basically give up their 1st-5th rounders to move up from 20 to 7, so I don't know how likely that would be. I guess if Mariotta is there at #7, they could move up and give a 1st and 2nd this year and a 1st next year to us, which would nice for us to have 2x firsts next year and 2x 2nds this year (especially if that tanked). For CLE and NO, both seem to be in play as both need impact players with the loss of Graham and Gordon. In any scenario, I would at least want to get Shelton, Collins, or Waynes, if we didn't get an Edge Rusher, Williams, White, or Cooper at #7.

For the 40 times, less than 0.20/s is not that much and can easily be within the margin of error for that short of a run (bad start, bad day, tight hammy, outdoors vs indoors). So Leshoure's is only .16/s off. Now the others that are 0.25/s and over, yeah, you definitely slow with age.

I would be interested in Adam Carriker, DE and Mikel Leshoure, RB. For the league minimum, there is very little risk, and both of these guys have experience. Carriker tweeted about the combine: He showed some promise in Washington before a knee injury derailed him.

Definitely possible. We were at 18 with a few weeks to go, then 13, then ended up with 7. I figure at worst we will end around 10 or 11, and at best 32nd. TEN, JAX, and TB will be lucky to get 3 wins WAS, OAK, and CLE are all destined for 3-5 wins NYJ, STL, SF, NO, ATL, MIN and DET will finish clumped in between 6 and 8 wins. The Jets have to play NE, BUF, and MIA for 6 of their games, with BUF stocked and Miami with Suh, they will be lucky to win 1 in their division. STL might've improved, but they still have to play SEA, ARZ, and SF for 6 games. If anything they improve by a game or two while SF falls back by that many. NO lost Graham, so I can't see them improving, and ATL was horrible last year. MIN is relatively the same team and DET lost at least 2-3 games by losing Suh/Fairley/Bush. To me that puts us somewhere between 7 and 9 wins, probably picking in the mid teens.

Wasn't he just coming in for a personal visit?

Yeah, I didn't know he had a weak arm: That kinda scares me, especially in Chicago.

or a QB prospect....

Makes sense, I would be good with it.

That would be an insane draft. I like 3 defensive players taken first (Collins fills a huge need/CB and DT hit), and still hitting the Oline with a starter, RB, WR/KR, and TE. I really like Ryan too. Top Safety, #2 C, #3 CB, #9 DT, #6 RB, #12 WR, and the #9 ILB.

Got it, I just don't know how much you can count on a 6th rounder as a starter. We tried Mills late and it didn't work out.

So #7 and 5th round pick for Cameron, #13 and a 3rd. Basically #7 for #13 and a 3rd, then a 5th for Cameron.

True, but I wouldn't say Garza has 3 years. I would love to pick up Wisniewski at Center, then that would be a very strong line. For the DLine, I really don't know what direction they are going in.

That would be a great scenario for picks, especially getting 16, 44, and 51 for 7. That seems borderline unrealistic that Houston would move up 4 slots for a 2nd rounder (that seems more like 3rd round value), but it is just a plan. Now for the picks, if we had 4 picks in the first 51 and ended up with those 4, I would be disappointed. Just using WF prospect rankings, we would end up with: (2nd OT, 9th DT, 11th best WR, 7th CB). To me, we should have all players in the top 5 or 6 at their positions, not 7th, 9th, and 11th in the 2nd round. With our defense so bad can we afford to draft 2x Offensive players in the first 4 picks, and 5 out of 8? I just don't see it. We have to draft a defensive player at every level (DLine, LB, CB, and S), and then use the last two on offense from: (OLine, WR, QB, or RB)

Yeah, if you look at all 3-4 teams around the league, at least the successful ones have that type of guy. Ratliff, Ferguson, and Sutton do not command that attention. For a drafting strategy, you have to look at Pace, Fox, Gase, and Fangio as a whole. Fangio will have input, but not as much as Pace or Fox.

Yeah, all I was saying was relative to last year, they have taken a step back. Williams and Hawk were starters and the 3rd/4th leading tacklers. Harris was their primary KR, and House/Guion/Jones were all depth players.

I have heard some reports that have him as high as the late 1st and early 2nd round. I don't know if we can afford that high of a pick (39) unless the team just loves him. Hundley also looked good on his pro day.

In terms of improving the team since last season, have the Bears not had the best offseason of any team in the division? GB has actually lost a lot of their depth and some key vets (Williams, Hawk, House, etc). So even though they re-signed Cobb and some others, at this point they are slightly worse than last year. Detroit has taken a massive step backwards losing Suh and Fairley and only gaining Ngata (who is older). Minnesota had a slight upgrade going from Jennings to Wallace, but the biggest swing will be in regards to what happens with AP. With their other roster losses (Felton), they probably are even at this point. With every team expected to improve through the draft similarly, it is hard for me to see the Bears as not improving the most so far this offseason (GM, coaching staff, Tucker gone, McPhee, Royal, Rolle). Now I know we lost Marshall, but I think our additions still outweigh his loss (on and off the field). https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/...ecap-nfc-north/

I just don't think Gurley or Gordon will be there when we pick at 39. If we traded with CLE (12/19) or NO (13/31), the only pick I would entertain picking Gurley would be 31 (but with all the other holes and Forte/Carey on the roster, would that be the most efficient pick?).

I couldn't find a primary or alternate list, just Pro Bowl or not. Sure there will be a few exceptions (mainly QB), but for the most part it is accurate. With this being Pace's first draft, he is going to pick the safest BPA on the board at #7 (or trade down). If I can find the number of first rounders drafted by position, then I can see what percentage of each have become Pro Bowlers. So even though Safety is low, they could be 5/5 when picking them in the first.

Here is a list of Pro Bowlers drafted in the 1st round, by position (last 10 years): 1st Round Pro Bowlers (109 total): Offense: 59 Defense: 50 LB - 15 OT - 12 WR - 12 CB - 12 RB - 10 DE - 9 QB - 8 DT - 7 OG - 7 S - 7 OC - 5 TE - 5 After seeing his pro day, I am down on Ray, I don't want him and think he would be a bad first pick. The 2 QBs would also be bad picks with so many other needs on the team. I would be ok with Beasley, Fowler, Williams, Gregory, Shelton, Cooper, White, and Scherff at #7 (if we couldn't trade down and still get one of them at 12 or 13). After that, I couldn't tell you about specific names that I don't want. For the players you guys listed, I agree that drafting an injured RB, when you have one of the best RBs in the league (and a rookie that still hasn't really been used on the roster), is a wasted pick. Now about Marshall in the 6th, I wouldn't mind him in other years, but I just don't think we are in a position to draft a "project" player right now. We need pro ready talent that can come in Day 1 and contribute and upgrade the roster. So any pick that is not going to be an upgrade somewhere is a "nightmare" pick for me.

7 - A. Cooper, WR 39 - C. Davis, DE 71 - L. Mauldin, OLB 103 - D. Smith, S 134 - S. Golson, CB 167 - B. Hager, ILB To me this is a pretty solid draft in terms of positions. If we sign Wisniewski, then this is a great draft.

How can you say Thomas and Sanders are that much better but then say they had Manning throwing to them. That completely contradicts your argument. Sanders doesn't even have a season comparable to last season. To me that speaks more to Manning than their own skill levels. Look at what Decker did away from Denver. Again I am not saying we have better players but comparable. I don't think D. Thomas is that much better, check out what he did before Manning. Sanders almost doubled his career best in yardage, so before last season, him and Royal were pretty close in production. Besides TDs how was Julius Thomas that much better than Bennett? I just feel we can live up to last year's potential on offense with this group.

I could see them doing it if they were really high on someone that wouldn't be there at 13 (like one of the WRs Cooper or White), but it would be for their #13 and #44, not #13 and #31. Just think, they could potentially get (Cooper/White) and still pick again in the 1st. That would be a pretty good consolation prize for losing Graham and Stills. They would have Brees with Unger anchoring their line, with Cooks and Colston + Cooper/White with Spiller/Ingram in the backfield. They added Ellerbe and Browner on defense, so pick #31 can get them another defensive starter.

Taking the most current rankings from various sites, I put together a compiled list to see how the prospects would rank. I ranked them by average draft position with their highest and lowest slot in parentheses. I was surprised to see 15 players ranked in the top 20 in all rankings. That is really consistent. I added some breaks where the averages were separated by a few points. If we are going BPA, and this list is any indication of player value, it looks like we will pick from the first 7 listed (and more specifically Fowler/Cooper/White/Gregory). I am sure pro days will change these somewhat and we will have some movers, but for the most part, this list will be pretty close to where the final rankings are at next month. Prospect Ranking 1 Leonard Williams - 1.75 (1/3) 2 Jameis Winston - 3 (1/5) 3 Marcus Mariota - 3.25 (1/7) 4 Dante Fowler Jr. - 4.5 (4/5) 5 Amari Cooper - 4.75 (3/7) 6 Kevin White - 6 (2/11) 7 Randy Gregory - 6.75 (6/8) *last of 6 players ranked in top 10 in all rankings ======================== 8 Vic Beasley - 10.5 (5/17) 9 Shane Ray - 11 (8/15) 10 Danny Shelton - 11.5 (9/13) 11 Brandon Scherff - 11.75 (6/21) 12 DeVante Parker - 11.75 (9/14) 13 Trae Waynes - 12 (9/16) ======================== 14 Landon Collins - 16.5 (14/19) 15 Alvin Dupree - 16.75 (8/28) 16 Malcom Brown - 17.5 (16/19) *last of 15 players ranked in top 20 in all rankings 17 T.J. Clemmings - 17.75 (11/22) 18 Melvin Gordon - 18 (12/23) 19 Andrus Peat - 18.75 (9/30) 20 Todd Gurley - 20.25 (13/25) 21 Shaq Thompson - 22 (17/32) 22 La'el Collins - 24.5 (16/34) 23 Arik Armstead - 25.25 (15/35) 24 Eddie Goldman - 26.66 (23/30) *last of 22 players ranked in top 32 in all rankings (1st round) ======================== 25 Dorial Green-Beckham - 29.5 (19/51) 26 Owamagbe Odighizuwa - 30.25 (23/48) 27 Jake Fisher - 31.5 (21/42) 28 Jaelen Strong - 33.33 (22/50) 29 Ereck Flowers - 33.5 (21/49) 30 Jalen Collins - 34 (22/51) 31 DJ Humphries - 34 (14/54) - A player must have been in the top 25 in one of the rankings to be on this list.

Yeah I can't see New Orleans doing this but I guess you never know. I could see them doing 13 and 44 if someone is there at #7 that they are enamored with and know they still have #31 in the first. Parker, that would be a crazy draft, and you seem to hit every need (DLine, LB, CB, S, WR, OLine)