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Yeah, in 2008 he somehow made Cleveland into a top 10 offense (4x Pro Bowlers), that alone is amazing.

Once he gets that, the Seahawks will struggle.

With the way the organization was run over the past few years, I don't mind this hire. As long as he has same vision as Pace it is a good move. Saints have been a lot better than us lately.

Exactly and I believe that is the sticking point right now for OC. If we are going after Cooter who is a drunk QB coach who was horrible in Detroit, it is getting bad. Stafford regressed this year.

Yeah he said something about how he reminded Jay that it is only fun when you are winning, and how Jay reaching out to him was a good move. That whole sequence was odd. I also think Jay is why we don't have an OC yet because they are going to want to know who the QB is going to be. I really hope Urlacher comes back in some type of QA/QC or Linebackers coach. He basically already did the job on the field and was always passionate.

I don't know how a team recovers from that type of collapse. That might have been one of the worst sequences in playoff history. Bonehead play after bonehead play, passive coaching, etc. They handed Seattle that game. btw, people really want Russell Wilson? He made 2-3 throws the entire game (and when he had 8 seconds to throw). The difference to me is his team is so good around him that he can play that bad and still win. That is why QB comparisons are sort of irrelevant because if Cutler played like that, we would lose by 60.

Yeah, if I was seeing this from a neutral perspective on a very expensive player, it would lead me to believe that he is gone. Otherwise, he would say that Cutler is the starting QB until we further evaluate the roster. The way he said it, it sounded more like if we can't find a better option, he will be here. Says he wants to be able to run the ball and stop the run, that is the essence of football. He talked about talking to Ditka and repairing relationship with Urlacher.

Anyone is better than Joe D, this is an upgrade.

The NFC Championship Game showed us you don't need an elite QB to play in a Super Bowl, just a great defense and great running game. Wilson was horrible, Lindley-bad, yet he is going to the Super Bowl. Dallas has to be pissed, because they would've crushed Seattle if Seattle played like that. How about Matthews? He has some phantom injury and is out of the game for most of the 4th quarter, yet it gets very little press. Did anyone else notice him on the sidelines as the Seahawks march down and score to take the lead? I can't find a single article about it online. Sherman plays with a broken arm and Matthews leaves with a hangnail. Epic collapse though, a complete coaching failure, playing not to lose (hi Lovie). First, why would they not defend against the fake FG when only a TD would've impacted the game at that point? You can't give up a TD there. Then you intercept the ball and immediately slide down on your side of the field with at least 10 yards of open field, wtf? You then play not to lose and actually lose yards on multiple running plays and give Seattle a short field after a punt. Then you don't clarify their jobs on the onside kick and Bostick heads the ball to the Seahawks with Nelson standing right behind him waiting for the ball. Then you allow a moonshot 2-pt conversion that is one of the most ridiculous I have ever seen. What were the 2 defenders defending over there? An amazing turn of events, but it seemed to come down to poor coaching in the end. Seattle does not deserve to be there either.

Bell is the worst rated player on the PFF Free Agency Tracker with a -33.4 rating. In comparison, Conte was a -3. Bell shouldn't even be in the NFL next year based on that rating. I would rather have Orlando Franklin from Denver and slide Long to Tackle. Hayes would be a good pickup though. I like Thompson, but I think I would go Grasu with the last 2nd round pick instead of Hundley.

Mongo, I hear ya on the idea of getting younger and gaining more cap space but you don't do it just to do it. If you move veterans to save cap space and gain picks, there is no guarantee the new player will be better than the one you lost. In Marshall and Forte's case, I think that is what would happen. Forte is arguably a top-5 RB, and Marshall would be a #1 on most teams in the league. If you can somehow find another player of their caliber for less (than everyone would be doing it and no one would want them). Also, assuming we have a blueprint of Fox's teams, then Marshall and Forte are perfect. Forte is in his last year. I would actually extend him and try to lower his cap hit, if not, then let him walk after this year and get a comp pick. Marshall is dependent on whether he is or is not a locker room problem and is impacting the chemistry of the team.

Those would all be great moves and upgrades all around. Seattle is going to have cap issues after the Wilson contract.

At this point, I don't think the cap space would equal the loss in production from Forte. For Marshall, besides the locker room whispers, has really been a solid player on and off the field (in media) for the Bears. I think both of these guys get one more year. Forte is going to be a FA next year, so we would get a comp pick if he leaves, and Marshall's dead money is way less in 2016 (same with Allen). I believe that is the year we see a huge roster turnover.

Scratch him off the list, so now Shanahan and Gase?

Orlando Franklin is also very solid, he is the top rated FA Guard (per PFF) and 2nd best OLinemen overall.

Urlacher approves of Fox hire: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...117-column.html

PFF has their Free Agent Tracker up with ratings, here are some positions we have needs at: Edge Rusher J. Houston, KC - 51.1 P. McPhee, BAL - 26 B. Graham, PHI - 22.8 J. Pierre-Paul, NYG - 16.9 D. Morgan, TEN - 14.6 J. Worilds, PIT - 11.7 J. Hughes, BUF - 9.7 DT N. Suh, DET - 27.5 S. Paea, CHI - 14.4 T. Knighton, DEN - 12.7 D. Harrison, NYJ - 11.5 D. Williams, ARZ - 11.5 N. Fairley, DET - 9.8 J. Ordrick, MIA - 9 S M. Adams, IND - 11.7 D. McCourty, NE - 11.6 D. Landry, NYJ - 10.9 T. Gipson, CLE - 10.3 D. Searcy, BUF - 8.6 S. Brown, IND - 5.3 CB K. Jackson, HOU - 9.5 R. Mathis, IND - 9.1 C. Culliver, SF - 8.5 B. Flowers, SD - 8.2 S. Moore, DAL - 6 LB R. McClain, DAL - 13.9 L. Briggs, CHI - 7.6 B. Spikes, BUF - 7.3 G. Hayes, JAX - 5.9 OT B. Bulaga, GB - 11.9 D. Newton, HOU - 8.9 J. Parness, DAL - 8.7 D. Free, DAL - 8.5 K. Dunlap, SD - 6.8 M. Roos, TEN - 4.6 OG O. Franklin, DEN - 12 M. Iupati, SF - 11.2 C. Boling, CIN - 5.8 OC R. Hudson, KC - 13 B. DelaPuente, CHI - 4.3 W. Montgomery, DEN - 3.2 FB H. Hynoski, NYG - 6.4 J. Felton, MIN - 3.7

Unless there are two Chris Harris on the Broncos, one just signed a long extension last month and is not a FA.

Allen has a $12.5 cap hit (dead money) if he is cut in 2015, but in 2016 he can be cut with zero dead money, so he will be a Bear in 2015 (unless traded).

That is awesome. It is amazing to see the quality we are being linked to and interviewing with. Fox really brings in instant credibility. Pace is really impressing me thus far. Looks like offense is Shanahan-35 (OC), Gase-36 (OC), and Mularkey-53 (HC/OC), and defense is Fangio-56 (DC), Allen-42 (HC/DC), and Nolan-55 (HC/DC). All have been previous coordinators, and half have had previous HC experience.

I was just being silly, I knew what you meant, but I wanted to accent "good ass coaches".

And Assistant coaches

I think with Fox's input, they are going to have a pretty solid acquisition strategy, and if the Coordinators are experienced, they will be able to maximize their talents (unlike the clowns we had).

If he is no longer with SF, why are they asking permission and to who? SF has had a great defense, and this would be a very solid hire. Also means shift to 3-4 (or at least hybrid).

and to those who have concerns about Pace: