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Sucks for us and him, as he was on the franchise tag. Collins has be playing really solid, so hopefully others will step up.

Only 5 NFC Teams with winning records after Week 3: SEA 3-0 NO 3-0 CHI 2-0 DAL 2-1 DET 2-1 and AFC has 10 teams, go figure (can have 11 if OAK wins): NE 3-0 KC 3-0 CIN 2-1 HOU 2-1 MIA 3-0 DEN 3-0 BAL 2-1 TEN 2-1 IND 2-1 BUF/NYJ 2-1 That Cincy win was huge, seeing how they played against GB.

I think we were 25 to 1.

I think it still has some leverage power since he was only drafted last year.

According to Sportscity, http://www.sportscity.com/nfl/salaries/chi...bears-salaries/ the Bears will have $86.3 committed in 2014/15 with Cutler, Melton, Tillman, Jennings, Hester, Gould, Garza, Wright, Wootton, Williams, Anderson, and Costanzo all coming off the books.

The Steelers have absolutely no running game, and their passing game is not that good either. I can't believe we are only favored by 2 or 2.5. When it is less than a FG, it is basically a pick'em. I say Bears 27-10.

Or keep TRich and still draft a QB with their original pick. The Colts are more than likely going to be a mid-20's pick. Though you can still get quality talent in that pick, there is no way that equals #3 from 2012. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this trade seems fishy and would be contested in most Fantasy Football leagues as too lopsided.

Haven't they had that feeling for the last 20+ years? I thought with Weeden, TRich, Cameron, Gordon, they were starting to have a decent Offensive Corps to work from, and their defense was solid. To me, in Year 2, this doesn't make much sense. There is no way a late 2014 1st Rounder is going to equal the production of TRich over the same period. With rookie contracts under control, even from a financial perspective, this is confusing. It was reported that Cleveland initiated contact on the trade. Why not do this in the offseason, why now? I understand IND was in need of a RB, but there have to be a handful of teams that would've been willing to give up that type of pick to have TRich this soon after his rookie deal. Cleveland also had to pay the bulk of the bonuses, which makes the deal even better for Indy.

Even though it was in the same round, there is nothing similar about the Olsen trade and TRich trade. Olsen was not traded during the season, and was basically let go because of Martz. Carimi and Benson? Not even close. TRich had a great rookie year and was poised to have another solid year. He caught 51 balls last year as a rookie. He is crazy versatile and would fit in almost any offense. There is no way Cleveland is going to be better at any point in the next 5 years without TRich and with whoever they pick in the 20's with Indy's first round pick next year.

I don't think it is that complicated. It sounds to me that if the receiving team has a penalty on the play, the kicking team can either accept the penalty or decline which would invoke the first touching rule. The only time the kicking team would get the ball would be if the penalty resulted in a first down from the original line of scrimmage. That is why, even with a penalty, the kicking team would never get the ball at the point of the touching, subsequent recovery and fumble spot by receiving team, or have the ability to recover the ball after they touched if first.

Something just doesn't sound right.

So what are your general thoughts on the trade? I think Indy got a steal getting someone drafted that high for what is almost guaranteed to be a late 1st rounder. If Indy was looking for an RB, I am surprised a team like HOU (Foster/Tate) or BUF (Spiller/Jackson) were not in on this type of deal. Cleveland was already bad and just got a lot worse, so I don't know what their motivation was to pull the string on a deal like this now, especially if IND was the desperate team. Why not a 1st and a 3rd to compensate for the draft position? To me, the timing and value of the trade seem a little odd. I would be pissed if the Bears did something like this, especially if the return value is almost assuredly not going to be as much as what you lost.

Sounds good to me, looks like Defensive starters and Offensive depth is the plan. I guess we will have to see what Trestman's offense evolves into over the course of the year to determine if another TE is needed. I think we definitely need to address the Secondary with two of the first few picks (S and CB).

I don't think the call was necessarily bad except for the Maneri route, a throw to the center of the field that close has to go back to the edge of the end zone. You can't blame Cutler for getting the ball tipped since there was no room to put touch on the ball, however, he probably should've just thrown it away instead of risking a turnover.

Just shows how shell shocked he really was, and Long and Mills are looking more and more like a steals everyday.

Cutler's QB Rating thru 2 games - 95.4, 10th in the League, ahead of the likes of Romo, Schaub, RG3, Brees, Kaepernick, Flacco, E. Manning, Big Ben, and Brady. Cutler's QBR - 71.8, 6th in the league, only behind P. Manning, Rivers, Luck, Ryan, and Rodgers. Some pretty good company.

Yeah but they didn't play anyone who won a playoff game last year, so I don't know how relevant that is. I am just optimistic because we never win games like that, and we now won two and have a lot of room to improve. The offense looks ready to explode and this week might be the week vs a bad PIT team on a short week.

So none of these teams will make the playoffs: Atlanta 47 Dallas 48 Detroi 49 Denver 50 Chicago 51 Houston 52 Green Bay 54 St Louis 55 Baltimore 55 San Francisco 57 Philadelphia 60 San Diego 61 and these teams will: NY Jets 30 Oakland 30 Tampa Bay 34 Carolina 36 Cleveland 37 Scoring is way up this year if you haven't noticed, so historical comparisons for pts (for/against) is sort of irrelevant. Pts differential and turnover differential are better indicators, but even now it is still too early to compare. Maybe after 4 games (25% of season) is the earliest time to compare. ( Also, like Brian said, Minny had a ST and Defensive TD which would bring us down to 37 (18.5 per game) which is much more realistic to where the Bears defense is at.

Of note, this is the first time in that same window that we have started 2-0 playing against playoff teams from last year, which makes those numbers even more impressive. Cincy is a really solid team, and Minny is always right there with AP and their Defense. I wonder how many sacks were allowed after 2 games during those seasons? Cutler 2013 - 1 sacks 2012 - 9 sacks 2011 - 11 sacks 2010 - 5 sacks 2009 - 4 sacks

@ Steelers W @ Lions W vs. Saints W vs. Giants L @ Redskins W @ Packers L vs. Lions W vs. Ravens L @ Rams W @ Vikings L vs. Cowboys W @ Browns W @ Eagles L vs. Packers L Almost a worst case scenario like above would have us at 10-6, but I was figuring 3 divisional losses, 2 NFC losses, and 1 AFC loss. However, we could easily go 12-4 and it would not be a surprise at this point.

BALL GAME!

What a crazy game.

Now dont F this up Special Teams, Walsh has a leg on him.

WOW

Wow what a ridiculous game. Forte with a fumble now?