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A pretty logical draft by position, though a WR instead of TE would be the better route IMO. Richardson in the 1st would make our D-Line one of the most dominant in the league with Peppers and Melton next to him, and he could learn from the best. Brown at 50 is a great value, and he could come in and possibly start at MLB. Webb is a good pickup in the 4th, immediately becomes Nickelback and could move over if Jennings or Tillman get hurt. Fragel would be decent there for a project. He might not start year one, but has enough upside to compete. Gragg is eh, but it is a 6th.

Yeah that would be awesome.

So we are trading with SF for 34 and JAX for 64? Do you mean SF's 61st pick? Brown and Pugh are fine, but Jones may be a little high at 64.

Just thought I was start a running thread for the draft to put all our thoughts in one place leading up to the draft as we now have about 30 overlapping threads on essentially the same topic.

I think a player that threatens something like that, they should be held out for an entire year and then can re-enter the draft the following year. To me, it affects the competitive spirit of the game. It is bad enough with all the money involved, but what happens when 2-3 players start doing it saying they won't sign the contract if drafted? Eli and Elway are in the same boat for me.

Must be a Jack Rabbit.

Lol, what? Moore has had 43 tackles for a loss in his career, Klein had 19. Actually, Klein is the last one I would want. Greene is the highest rated amongst the three, but based on our draft position, Moore seems to fit the 5-6 round slot if we want him.

I really like Sio Moore.

I just don't see us taking 2x MLBers in the entire draft, let alone in the first 2 picks, especially considering we have Williams for this year. Swope is decent, no complaints there. I doubt Schwenke makes it out of the 3rd round, and Bakhtiari will be long gone before pick 131. I haven't seen him past 100.

I remember the whole Elway fiasco and how he refused to play for the Colts. I hated him from that day forward. No one should be above the process. On the Bears, if they got Long, I don't think they would've picked Dent, so they would've never played together, but man would that have been a pair of dominate ends.

I believe Glennon is the 2nd QB we have visited with, the other being Mitchell Gale from Abilene Christian. Here is what I am tracking for Private Workouts: Kiko Alonso – ILB – Oregon Jon Bostic – ILB – Florida Arthur Brown – LB – Kansas State Zaviar Gooden – LB – Missouri Khaseem Greene – OLB – Rutgers Alec Ogletree – LB – Georgia Nate Palmer – LB – Illinois State Sean Porter – LB – Texas A&M Keith Pough – LB – Howard Manti Te’o – LB – Notre Dame Keegan Wetzel – LB – Navy Reid Fragel – OT – Ohio State Travis Frederick – OC – Wisconsin Edmond Kugbila – OG – Valdosta State Justin Pugh – OT/OG – Syracuse Brian Schwenke – OC – California Robert Alford – CB – Southeastern Louisiana Brandon McGee – CB – Miami Don Unamba – CB – Southern Arkansas B.W. Webb – CB – William & Mary Mitchell Gale – QB – Abilene Christian Mike Glennon - QB - NC State Eric Rogers – WR – Cal Lutheran Ryan Swope – WR – Texas A&M Christine Michael – RB – Texas A&M Keavon Milton – TE – Louisiana-Monroe Lawrence Okoye – DE – Olympian I would say if the private workouts are any indication, it looks like we are going to take 2 LBs, 1 OL, 1 CB, and 1 from the group of QB, WR, RB, TE, DE). Interesting not to see a single DT with a private workout. Could you make a solid draft from this group?

I know, he is higher on other sites, I don't know what NFL.com uses, but I was surprised to see him at 51.0 tied for last in the OL group.

Thanks, I just like to break things down from different angles to see if there are trends or other interesting perspectives.

He fits the target range of our 4th round pick, but rated as the lowest OL according to NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/tracker#dt-t...sition-input:ol

Yeah obviously, 6-10? Now the Bears could very well end up 8-8, but 6-10, that is highly unlikely.

I would say going to Baltimore or Chicago would be the worst destination for him. He needs to go to a smaller market and not put any undue pressure on himself. I could just see the endless number of blowup doll "girlfriends" in his locker every week.

Me too.

I like Banks and Schwenke, I am ok with Gooden and Fragel. If Williams can play DT for a 4-3, then I would be ok there. Rodgers, eh, probably could get him as a UDFA. After going back and forth on TE, I think it is a mistake after investing so much money in Bennett. To me the top 2 areas to address are OL and LB, specifically MLB. Then CB, WR, and DT in no particular order.

I use: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/

Wow, the media is really down on the Bears for this season: ESPN, both writers have us at 8-8: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...s-2013-schedule For the Tribune, they range from 6-10 to 10-6: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acroba...60-18200536.pdf To me I say these guys are complete idiots, one has us beating NYG and NO, then losing to STL and DET? Really.

or Fluker and Brown? Which pair would you like better?

Using NFLDraftScout's Prospect Rankings, I filtered it for only CB/DT/ILB/WR/OT/OG/C/TE/QB, then figured out who might be available at our current top 3 picks (20, 50, and 117). For the 1st round, I figured +/-10, 2nd round +/-12, and 4th round +/-20. I was assuming this is how far someone could fall and how far we might reach on a pick. Here are the groups: 20 - (+/-10) 11 - X. Rhodes, CB 12 - J. Cooper, OG 13 - T. Austin, WR 14 - C. Patterson, WR 15 - S. Lotulelei, DT 17 - S. Richardson, DT 18 - S. Williams, DT 19 - T. Eifert, TE - 20 - 22 - D. Fluker, OT 23 - D. Trufant, CB 24 - M. Watson, OT 25 - A. Ogletree, LB 26 - R. Woods, WR 27 - J. Taylor, CB 30 - E. Manuel, AB 50 - (+/-12) 38 - Z. Ertz, TE 39 - J. Hankins, DT 41 - D. Hopkins, WR 42 - J. Banks, CB 44 - A. Brown, LB 45 - J. Williams, DT 46 - K. Minter, LB 47 - K. Short, DT 48 - R. Nassib, QB 49 - T. Armstead, OT - 50 - 50 - J. Hunter, WR 52 - J. Pugh, OT 53 - D. Amerson, CB 54 - L. Warford, OG 55 - K. Long, OG 57 - T. Frederick, C 59 - T. Williams, WR 61 - D. Hayden, CB 62 - T. Wilson, QB 117 - (+/-20) 98 - B. Jones, C 101 - A. Bailey, OG 102 - L. McFadden, CB 103 - S. Bailey, WR 104 - A. Klein, LB 105 - L. Jones, QB 109 - V. Painter, OT 113 - A. Dobson, WR 114 - L. Ryan, CB - 117 - 117 - J. Reed, TE 118 - A. Spence, DT 119 - C. Harper, WR 122 - K. Holmes, C 124 - J. Bostic, LB 125 - D. Quessenberry, OT 128 - B. Webb, CB 130 - T. Simon, CB 131 - B. Williams, OT 132 - K. Stills, WR 134 - D. Thomas, OT 135 - M. Hughes, DT 137 - H. Thornton, OG To me, we really need to trade down, as #20 doesn't seem to have the same value as it would in other years.

I like the names and the positions, if this occurred, I would have no issues with it. We get Brown who can sub in at all positions and prepare to take over in the middle. Jones at #50 may be a little early for him, but he can play either Guard or Center immediately, Bailey (who I actually like better than Austin) would be a good compliment to Marshall and Jeffery. McFadden would be a good fit and play right away in Nickel and as a sub. Logan would join the DT rotation. Dysert is also who I picked, I actually like him over some of the other QBs. Lawrence and Horton would just be depth picks. Overall not bad.

It's probably true that Atlanta wouldn't do that, but the value is pretty even. The issue I have is that if we are going to trade down, I want an extra 2nd. Atlanta drafts so late in the round that there picks are not as valuable. The easier trade and more logical trade would be #20 for #30 and #60. To make it even, we might have to give up #188, but it would be worth it to get 3 picks in the top 60.

College vs last year vs this year Arms look bigger and more defined, and overall he looks like he is in better shape. Looks like he lost fat his rookie year, but now has put on some muscle.