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To me he said nothing, he is not going to show is hand. We like the look of our offensive line but will look very hard at OLine during the draft? Seems like misdirection to me.

This is awesome, I remember this thread and the BMarsh reunion talk, it just died for a little while and I didn't think they would go this route.

That seems about right.

Saints signed OG Ben Grubbs, formerly of the Ravens, to a five-year, $36 million deal. The deal includes a $10 million signing bonus, and $16 million "fully guaranteed." Grubbs provides the Saints a soft landing after they lost LG Carl Nicks to the Bucs, but at a surprisingly steep cost. Grubbs landed just $11.5 million less total money, and will average roughly $2 million less per season. Grubbs graded out as Pro Football Focus' sixth-best left guard in 2011, but Nicks was significantly better in both run and pass blocking. Nicks is also more than a year younger. The Ravens will likely now focus on signing free agent Evan Mathis to replace Grubbs. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id...cks-with-grubbs

Great deal for Bears, you could've easily started somewhere else.

Winston would be nice.

He averaged 95 receptions and 1187 yards in those 5 years. That includes 3 Pro Bowls.

This is awesome, even better than getting VJack or Colston and only giving up 2x 3rd rounders? Wow! The Dolpins used 2x 2nd rounders to get him. I just can't believe no other team offered more than that to pick up Marshall. Cutler has to be stoked.

Man would that be a pair of bookend DE's. Peppers and Williams, wow that would be scary. Williams 53.5 sacks in 82 career games. Peppers 100 sacks in 154 career games.

I think in the case of a draft pick you can. They are not trading for a known commodity like the Bears did with Cutler. RGIII is awesome, and I love him as a player and hope he has a great career, but you can't mortgage that much of your future to get one guy. The way I see it, the draft is where you get value on your team with the new salary constraints for rookies. Basically Washington is doing that, but only at the QB position, and they were not just one player away from being a contender. Instead of having cheap talent, like Denver, they will have to find everything else thru FA, which you can only do so much with the cap. That division is pretty brutal with NYG, DAL, and PHI to play 6 times a year. They would've been better served to draft Tannehill at #6 (or even later for that matter) and keep their future picks to build around him.

Except when your first pick in the draft for the next two years is 47th-52nd. I don't like the deal for Washington to give up that much for so long just to move up 4 spots. Take the player out of the equation, they are giving up 2 firsts and a second to move up 4 spots this year.

1. That would be awesome, VJack would immediately become one of the best WR's in franchise history 2. That would be awesome, I like Wimbley and he would be a great compliment to Peppers 3. I would like BPA at 19, OL, WR, CB, or DT 4. Redskins seem like an odd destination for Manning. In the NFC, team is not that good, and he would play Eli twice a year.

Ok, his base salary was $10.75 for this year, that entire amount would have been a cap hit. They reduce it to $1.75 million with $9 million as a bonus, still totalling the same amount paid to him. So $1.75 + $9 = $10.75, the same amount. However, they can now apply the $9 million bonus over the remaining 4 years of the contract ($2.25million per year) So this year's cap hit will be: $1.75 Base Salary (new amount) $2.25 Pro-rated Bonus ($9 million spread over 4 years) ------- $4.00 Million Cap hit So they started with a $10.75 million cap hit and reduced it to $4 million, saving $6.75 million in cap space for this year.

I thought this would be interesting to see where people think he is going based on the different situations. Do you think he should do a for-tv special like Lebron an donate proceeds?

I wouldn't say it is significant, normally a couple of million depending on how creative they are on the salaries. If the base for this year is only $1 mill, then the cap hit could be down to $5 with the $4 million applied annually.

Man, I read my post again and I swear I said the same thing, just not in a tabular format, but its cool, at least we are on the same sheet of music.

For Vincent Jackson, he has a few killer stats: 83% of his catches go for a 1st Down, and he only has one fumble in his entire career. Besides the 3 out last 4 years with a 1,000 yards and averaging 18 a catch and 8 TDs.

So you can easily name 9-19 better WR's than Jackson? He may not be in the top 5, but he is definitely in that next group of WR's and I would definitely consider him a top 10 talent at that position.

The $20 million is the signing bonus or "guaranteed money" pro-rated over the life of the contract, thus 20 / 5 = 4.

It depends on what the salary is each year. So they may sign him to a 5/40 with a 20 mil signing bonus. If his salaries were 2, 2, 4, 4, and 8 mil; then the cap hits would be: 6, 6, 8, 8, 12 mil with the bonus or guaranteed money ($4 mil per year) pro-rated over the life of the deal. In reality they are paying him $22 mil this year, but only $6 mil counts against the cap. After that point, they can release him at anytime, but would take a cap hit immediately for the remainder of the bonus that was not yet applied to the cap. So if Forte was released after year 3, they Bears would have a cap hit of $8 mil in year 4 without Forte, but would not incur anything in year 5. So to Forte, he could essentially double or triple his guaranteed money with a new deal compared to the $7.7 he is getting now. A new deal, with creative salaries also could reduce the cap hit for the first few years compared to the franchise value at RB.

I would think we are the most attractive location out of those three for a WR looking to play on a championship caliber team and with a franchise QB. Minnesota and Jacksonville both have question marks at QB and their teams are not really contenders.

Interesting to note that neither Jackson nor Bowe have been hit with the franchise tag yet.

Yes, Colston over Nicks.

I was just thinking of one of the two would be great. Then add someone like Carlson as TE and get a mid-tier FA for the other area of need (OL or WR) that you didn't fill and we would be set for the draft.