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Even after JJ extension, Bears still with $58M in cap space. Depending on structure, at $19M per year, that's 800K less than the tag this year, and would be several million below the tag next year.

I was looking at the timing and it does line up better with a rookie QB than it does with Fields, but that doesn't mean anything as that is so far out that there are like 2 guys under contract for that year right now lol. However, as the contracts keep stacking on themselves, the QB pay bump is definitely something Poles or the next GM will have to figure out.

Awesome deal, and fair for both sides. Getting him for under $20M AAV is great for the Bears, and him getting $54M guaranteed is great for JJ. Schefter says JJ is getting $60M in the first 3 years with only $16M in Year 4 (2027).

Grizz, after looking at a lot of numbers, I think the entire "what number they were selected at" is just another made up talking point by the media (just like Mr. Irrelevant). The biggest correlation to anything is most QBs drafted #1 go to crappy teams. That's it. When they were selected is considerably less relevant than who selected them, what kind of team is around the QB, and how good is the coaching staff. One big thing about the COVID year, that made evals 10x more difficult. A good number of players opted out, so the competition all around was much weaker that season.

This is the sad part: https://stathead.com/tiny/quNM3 Fields makes up for a lot of deficiencies with his legs, but as a passer he is closer to Zach Wilson than Mac Jones.

I think you can probably come up with 20+ categories that define QBs in a different way that could show that group winning or losing SBs. I also don't think Caleb Williams is generational. I think that is really hard to do in football because you are so dependent on 10 other players and your coaches. So if we all call Caleb Williams the best college QB ever, is that going to change any outcomes? If the Bears draft a QB, they believe the projection and value going forward are greater than what Fields can provide. If they keep Fields and trade down, they believe Fields coupled with the draft haul give the Bears the best chance at sustained success.

Bates may be the Bears vet option at Center, and a fallback in case they don't get one in the draft. That basically leaves WR2 as the only true "hole" on offense as starters are concerned. The defense needs an Edge2 and a FS to fill current holes. That's it. The other spots are backups or starter upgrades (DT, WR3, TE2). So if the Bears do go Williams at #1. They have to address a few of these with the remaining 4 picks. If Fields is traded they may get an additional pick or two. Just say they have 5 more picks after #1. WR, Edge, DT, C, and TE/WR make sense.

Bates' contract is great for the Bears. Two years, at $4M per year with zero dead money. Virtually zero risk outside of losing the 5th Round pick. Bears still have the 4th most cap space at $75M after this move. If they trade Fields, they gain back $3.2M, almost the entire Bates cap hit.

Now Denver needs a QB though. So there are the same amount of teams needing a QB. Wherever Wilson goes won't need a QB, but now Denver does. So it cancels itself out.

With so few picks, and the likely haul for #1, it seems that trading #1 has gained some steam by this trade. Going from 6 picks to 5, with 1 going to a QB would make this a pretty thin draft class. I know they can trade #9, but they need a trade partner, and it would seem like the only option would be a team wanting to move up for a QB.

Looks like a Patrick replacement. Can play both Guard and Center.

They were trying to sign him last off-season but he went back to Buffalo. For a 2024 5th rounder. Poles is going to have to trade down, down to 5 picks in the draft.

Absolutely. However, there feels like an element of strategy here, and Williams may have been in on it. There is a chance the Bears already told Williams they are selecting him, thus the reason why he was so relaxed at the combine. The Bears could've even told him not to do it to prevent injury. For the medicals and visit, if they schedule it early, like everyone suspected they wanted to, doesn't that show more proof that they are leaning towards him than any other option in the draft? Why make it that obvious? Everything has felt sort of artificial. The first we hear about Williams official visit to the Bears is the day before the proposed visit. Then that gets postponed until after his pro day within an hour? So are the Bears really going to trade Fields before even getting medicals done on Williams? It's possible that they aren't trading Fields OR they are planning to select a different QB OR they believe there are not going to be medical issues (Williams has never missed a game). This just got hairy for a lot of QB needy teams. Poles controls the draft and to an extent free agency. The QB plan is integral to the overall roster. You can't just figure that out later.

How do we even know anything was scheduled? Like you said, if Breer is just giving his opinion, maybe he thought they were do a visit right after the combine since Williams was close by in Indy. Who know if anything was actually scheduled, because nothing came from the Bears. Normally their visits are announced.

Albert Breer is not a trusted source? He is probably one of the top 3 or 4 dudes. He doesn't post rumors.

Man those articles are confusing. The title says they are referencing Breer's article, but when you read it, it says traditionally players do their visits in that period AFTER the March 20th pro day, but Williams was scheduled to meet the Bears on Tuesday. The other article says "and Williams' early visit will only fuel that continued speculation"

Crazy to think of how many ESPN anchors and contributors have died in recent years. From Stuart Scott, to John Saunders, to John Clayton, and now Chris Mortensen. Very sad to see another great pass away. You know you are getting old when so many people are passing away in your life.

Stinger said he heard it on the SCORE? I only listened to the Biggs part, and he is sold on the Bears drafting Williams. He basically said with all the info leading up to today, he has never been more confident in a Bears draft selection. So posters pointed out that is makes sense because the Bears never had the #1 pick before since Biggs has been on the beat.

If this is true, against what Albert Breer just put out this morning, then there is no way they will draft him. Poles can't wait that long to make a decision. They still may draft a QB, but it won't be Williams.

Then we have some conflicting reports. Here is Biggs saying that they are drafting Williams on the SCORE this morning: https://t.co/Fd88KKPafk

Here is a good chunk of info from the MMQB and Albert Breer (might need to expand the quote). Seems like there is a lot of media-driven narrative about Williams. Similar to what Fields went thru about his work ethic (which was completely false). The more info that comes out, the more I get excited about the prospect of picking Williams #1, and this has nothing to do with how I feel about Fields.

Apparently this visit is scheduled for tomorrow. Normally visits don't happen until late March and/or early April, so this is considered "early". From Breer, it seems like the Bears will make a decision this week, and definitely ahead of the start of free agency. If the Bears were planning to trade Fields, they believe his value will decrease once free agency opens. https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/03/04/combine-takeaways-bears-plan-williams-draft-quarterback-fields The bottom line is, we should know this week what the Bears intentions are going forward. This will be a relief because ever since the #1 pick was locked up, there has been this discourse between Fields v Williams. I will be glad when that is over, regardless the route they go.

Lol, yeah, I have seen an Atlanta one, Pittsburgh one, and that Giants one.

Trade on horizon?