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Wow, comparisons to Marcus Allen.

No prob. Just a little joke to start the day.

Nice summary Ashkum. I would say that AP's best value is as a component of the Special Teams unit, especially with the loss of Ayanbadejo. AP is now even more critical to that unit. That is why, more than likely, he will not be the one given the ax. Wolfe seems to be the odd man out.

There is no way a UDFA QB is going to be better than a QB drafted in the 4th round.

The first play of this one reminds me of Barry Sanders disappearing act (17 second mark):

Actually most have him in the Top 10: Some more: http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2009/mockdraft.shtml http://walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

I believe everyone who talked about missing out after Brohm and Henne are correct. However, once we missed them, there was no point in taking another QB just to draft one. So the issue is not really not drafting ANY QB, it is more about why we didn't draft the corps group of QB's that had the potential to be our starting QB (Ryan, Flacco, Brohm, Henne).

Him and Forte would be a pretty nice duo. I wish they could just cut Benson due to medical reasons and save the cap hit.

Who knows what is going on with Urlacher, you never know, but I doubt it. There was speculation that Urlacher's agent requested a new contract or a trade, but again it was just speculation.

When did I condemn Benson about his play? I thought Benson would've been much better if he wasn't getting hit behind the LoS. I just said he was more of a question mark now with a plate in his ankle compared to a healthy Grossman or Orton with a good O-Line. That would make it easier to draft an RB before QB. Now the baffling part is that we did not draft a QB at all. That speaks volumes. We draft OT, RB, WR, DT, S, CB, TE, DE, but not QB? I agree about Brohm/Charles over Forte/Bennett, but it depends on how each of those were rated on their board (which we will never know). However, if Brohm was rated higher than Forte, with the needs being equal, there is no way they go with Forte over Brohm. That tells me that Brohm or Henne were not that highly rated or may not have even been on the Bears board.

Walter Football lists 5 possible Qb's within the 1st 2 rounds: http://walterfootball.com/draft2009QB.php

Holy cow, that looks like Millen's draft pattern. Almost all WRs. Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, Reche Caldwell, Randel El, Ashley Lelie, Mike Williams, Sinorice Moss, Chad Jackson, and Dwayne Jarrett.

One thing to consider is the Line play had a lot to do with the regression of Grossman. He has shown that when he is on, he can be a pretty good QB, and when he is off he can be brutal. The Bears must feel like a healthy Grossman and Orton has more upside than a Benson with a plate in his ankle. That is why they had to address RB after OT.

Harrison. Williams and Forte are pretty obvious.

I should've added the disclaimer "besides Bears 88".

I only had 6 correct picks and 25 correct 1st round picks. If we did it by team I would've had more with Jones going to Dallas.

lol, but actually true.

The complimentary comparison was more like Benson: fall down after 2 yard gain and Forte: plow thru to the 2nd level and make people miss More like "Shock and Awe", Forte being the Shock and Benson making the crowd say "Awwwwwww" in disgust.

The more I am reading about Bennett, the more I am liking him. Hard to knock him with his production in the SEC. Also, with him only being a Junior, we are getting him a year younger.

Wow, that would've been ugly.

We probably could've traded down in the 2nd, picked up Brohm 1st, then traded up to pick up Forte late in the 2nd without even giving up anything. Same, same.

Thanks for the update. When people get over the fact that we did not draft a QB, they start liking the draft more and more.

YES! It is amazing the influence a neckbeard has on the draft these days. You basically have to knock 0.5 off their 40 time, and add 10 reps to their bench if they possess a neckbeard at the combine. Pretty crazy stuff.

Yeah, Baltimore was the last team to win an SB with a QB that had a rating under 85. Now would any of those QB's mentioned be at least that good in the NFL? The last 10 QB's drafted in the 2nd Round: Kolb, Beck, Stanton, Clemens, Jackson, Brees, Carter, Tuiasosopo, King, Batch. That is an ugly group other than Brees, especially for Franchise QBs. The last 10 QB's drafted in the 3rd Round: Walter, Greene, Schaub, Ragone, Simms, McCown, Redman, Huard, Quinn, Griese. Any QB's to build a Franchise around in that group? Schaub? If you look at the past 10 Super Bowl champions, the QB's have came from the 1st Round (5 times), 6th Round (3 times/Brady), 9th Round (1 time/Johnson), and undrafted (1 time/Warner). Going back to 1980, only 2 QBs that were selected in the 2nd-5th rounds won a Super Bowl (Theismann and Montana). So our only hope is Grossman.

nfo, I am still a bit shocked we passed on Schuening, when he was right there. I think they were scared of Charles because of the whole Texas RB thing (Ricky/Benson). I don't understand how Brohm and Henne both fell so far, but there has to be reasons that most teams passed on them. If they liked him, the Bears could've even traded down in the 2nd to pick Brohm, then used the picks gained to trade back up to pick Forte. They would've had Brohm/Forte instead of Forte/Bennett. Then you pick Caldwell instead of Harrison and Schuening instead of Bowman and we are looking pretty damn good. So Williams or Albert, then Brohm and Forte, then Caldwell, Steltz, and Schuening.