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The call would be fine if it supported the personnel in the game. Orton is clearly better over the middle, and McKie is not the best receiver. Turner just needs to go.

I agree. I also think the officiating was brutal. That was one of the worst called games in a long time. The Viqueens had sooo many holds on the line, yet were never called for one. On the AP TD, Brown was completely held, then on the kickoff, Wolfe holds a guy for a split second and he gets a flag. Also, the Desmond Clark hold was so blatant, yet, no call again. It was nice to see the defense show up, but now with us officially eliminated, we need to rest our stars. There is no point in getting someone hurt because you are playing for pride. You don't play to lose, but you definitely can get some new faces in the game to see what they can do. Vasher looked good, and Toeaina stuffed AP twice near the goalline. I would like to see more of him. Urlacher was funny, 2 sacks, 1 Fumble Recovery, 1 Pass Defended, and 1 Interception.

Wow, 16 straight losses, and #17 is avoided in OT. Now Baltimore has lost 8 straight.

Only bad things can happen when you have nothing to play for. Sit Harris and allow him to heal properly.

Grossman should be IR'ed and someone needs to be brought up from the Practice Squad.

I would say the order should be best available from (OL, S, QB) in the first three rounds. For DL and LBs, the Bears have several players like Bazuin and Okwo that are injured, so their health will steer the direction of the draft somewhat. Also, what does everyone think about Grossman. Is he completely done in Chicago? or do the Bears sign him to some sort of incentive laden contract in case they don't get someone in FA or thru the draft? Also, the free agent signings will be huge this offseason for the Bears. If they can get a good mix of veteran FA's and solid draft picks, they will be right back in the thick of the NFC race next year - as long as Turner is not the OC.

$12,500 is ridiculously low considering it broke his leg. I thought these fines were elevated when the player got injured. Also, no suspension?

The offensive scheme next year will also be dependent on who the QB is. I would like to see someone a little more mobile than Grossman and Griese. The playcalling on both sides of the ball has been suspect all year. I never seen a team have successful 1st down runs, then throw 3 straight incompletions, then punt - or - make consecutive passes for 1st downs, then run 3 straight times for 1 yard, then punt. Why not make them stop you first. The Bears have stopped themselves all year. DB mentioned earlier, without the right players, the Cover 2 does not work. I would rather convert to a more conventional system that mixes blitzes, with man-to-man, with zone. Just change it up. Letting Turner go should happen minutes after the season finale.

That would be sick.

You are correct. Anderson is the only one as an RFA, but I would still give up a draft pick for him.

That is hilarious.

I would target some of these UFA's: Derek Anderson - QB (should be #1 target) Michael Turner - RB (change of pace RB) Andre' Davis - WR (dependent on Berrian status) Alan Faneca - OT (need someone like him or Gross, if not both) Jordan Gross - OT Justin Smith - DL (need some consistency on DL) Marcus Trufant - DB (might be too high priced) Ken Hamlin - DB (would rather have him than Arch)

I would at least give Orton one game with the same O-line before making changes. After that though, bring in all the bench players and give them a shot. Who knows, someone may surprise.

Congrats!

Definitely add the subforums for the draft and college football.

I would love Jake Long, but the Bears need to lose out to even have a reasonable shot, even with trading up. Those draft values are huge between top 10 picks.

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Last year it looked like he had the potential to be a top 10 WR, but he was way too inconsistent this year. He made a few highlight reel catches, but that is about it. He is probably somewhere between 15-20. Those stats include TEs, so he would be slightly higher on stats alone.

These injuries on defense and the lack of offense (no T. Jones) really spells a disappointing season for the Bears. I hate to be so pessimistic but it does not look good right now. That Dante Wesley trade looks pretty ill-advised (hindsight 20/20).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview07/ne...tory?id=2984130 Only 3 out of the 16 "experts" pick the Bears to win the NFC. Gotta love it.

Davis has more speed and Hass is more of a possession (catch anything) receiver. I could actually see sets where they have both of them in alongside Berrian or Bradley. I think Hass will replace Moose more often, while Bradley will be worked in as the #3 receiver, and Davis working in for Berrian. All I care about is production. If one receiver produces more on his opportunities, use him more.

Prisco is nuts. The Bears 10th overall and 4th in the NFC? Did the Eagles, Cowboys, and Saints get better while the Bears regressed?

I still don't understand how Rivera went from D-Coordinator for a Super Bowl team, to Head Coach candidate, to Linebackers Coach in about a weeks time.

Yeah the two guys other than Olsen that I thought would contribute were Bazuin and Okwo, and they are both out. Kind of odd to see your top 3 picks hurt.

I am glad we still have Garay, Oakley, and Ball. All of those guys were right on the cut line.