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It looks like the Bears running defensive problems are associated more with scheme than any other factor. Harris will be a huge loss, and this week vs Jackson will be a good test.

Welcome aboard Bearcub! Yeah, I don't think anyone saw the Saints being in first place in their division ahead Carolina and Atlanta. However, I was surprised to see that they have not beat a team with a winning record.

I say give him the first half. If he looks the same as he has over the last few weeks bring in Griese in the second half. Also, I read this, which was pretty interesting: Based off that, it makes Rex's recent performance look even worse, because normally you can put some of the blame on the receivers.

As a fan, I want to see Rex succeed, but there has to be a point where they try something else. The only thing keeping him in there is that the Bears are winning, but in spite of him. If the Bears lose the Arizona game and any of the other games where Rex struggled (take your pick), the Bears would be 8-4 or maybe even 7-5. If that happened Griese would probably be the QB right now. That is why they brought him in? I am sure the Defense would appreciate even a few sustained drives to give them a little rest. The Defense was on the field for almost 40 minutes against the Vikings. If that continues, the injuries are going to pile up. I say give him the first half vs STL. If he manages the offense effectively, leave him in, but if he continues to struggle, bring Griese in for the 2nd half to see what he can do. How much longer are they going to use this excuse? I could see for the first 4-6 games, but not after 12 games this year plus a couple at the end of the season last year.

CBS Sportsline has a pretty good rating system for players that I check out periodically. For QBs, Grossman is the 3rd lowest rated QB (43rd overall) with over 100 yds passing per game. The only ones lower are Gradkowski and Walter. He has had 20 turnovers in the last 7 games. If he was on any other team, he would be on the bench. I have watched some of the games again, and it looks like Grossman is regressing with every game. At first it was him just throwing off his back foot, then it was him making bad throws with pressure up the middle, but now he is making bad decisions (throwing into double coverage, missing the open receivers, etc) with no pressure. Lovie is starting to sound more like Ozzie Guillen with his Starting pitchers (leaving them in too long and being stubborn). I understand you want to have confidence in your young QB, but Grossman has not shown anything since the NYG game, and that was a month ago. At this point, I would give Grossman the first half against STL. If he continues to have all his bad habits, then you start Griese in the 2nd half. Otherwise, the Bears will never know if Griese is a better solution, but it is hard to believe he can be much worse than Grossman has been over the last couple of games.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the news. The Bears really can use some depth there with the Brown injury. It just looks like Parrish fell out of favor. It might have been the system. As long as it was not injury related, it would be worth a serious look.

All I have seen so far was this:

and Defense.

Great job to clinch the 2nd consecutive Division title, now we need HFA. Hopefully the Bears can wrap that up within the next few weeks and give some of the starters a rest (especially on D).

Bears draft a QB or maybe try to get someone like McNabb?

Grossman was good early on when teams did not know how to play against him. They have him figured out. He is getting worse because teams are getting more and more film on him and they must see some huge weaknesses that they are exploiting. The only way to fix it is to completely change the offense or replace Grossman.

107 yds of Total offense and we win by 10!

The Titans always play the Colts tough. Awesome win for the Titans and Vince Young.

Defense has been on the field for a long time.

Bollinger has out passed Grossman in 4 minutes of play - against the Bears Defense no less.

CRUNCHED!

I really hope this is the last. Lovie must have picked up some "stuff" from Ricky Williams.

They are just trying to get another record, lowest passer rating to win a game by 10 pts or more while throwing 3 or more interceptions.

29% Completion percentage, and fallling.....

I did, post 194! http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?...761&st=180#

He hasn't done it already, and he can't play any worse, unless he hands off to their D-Line.

Nice call.

Detroit up on NE after a Safety, 18-13. GB losing big against NYJ.

They need to get the ball in his hands more, he defines electric.

Benson is at least backing up some of that talk. Great run.