Controlled Chaos

Hass. If given the chance, he will become the go to guy. Toeaina. I think he will become a big part of the tackle rotation. Benson. Not sure if he is a sleeper, but if we address the line, I think he can have a big year.

Good Riddance. Someone should go see Madden and have the defibrillation paddles ready.

You are so freakin wrong. Welker just can't get some peoples' respect. It's like there is this pre programmed notion if the receiver is white, he just can't be good. The dude was unstoppable this year and when he finally got his shot with a shitty Dolphins team with an even shittier offense, he caught 67 passes there. Would Davis have done that too??? It's amazing you want to put Davis in the same category as Welker. GMAFB. And your way fuckin wrong on Berrian too. Made some spectacular catches at times. Could get open on the deep ball with his speed if the CB bit. But was a terrible route runner. Had terrible moves getting open on the intermediate routes. Showed suspect hands his entire carrer and couldn't prevent an INT if his life depended on it. He showed flashes, but was way too inconsistent to be a top flight WR.

Agree 100%. Almost no price was too high for Faneca IMO. The intangibles he was going to bring were worth just as much as his ability.

A position Bears really need to fill By Mike Imrem | Daily Herald Columnist Bears quarterbacks are like the weather: Everybody owns an umbrella but nobody stops it from raining. This franchise is back where it started a half-century ago, patching and taping and wishing and hoping against hope that what they have is better than what they could have. Clearly it's time to do something about it by implementing a concept I have pondered for a while. It starts with the fact that NFL teams have quarterbacks, quarterback coaches and quarterback camps. So why don't they have quarterback scouts? Or directors of quarterback acquisition? Or even vice presidents of quarterbacks? If the NFL isn't quarterback-centric, it's specialist-centric. Offensive-line coaches have assistant offensive-line coaches in charge of teaching holding with the left hand instead of the right. Special-teams coaches have assistant special-teams coaches, and the one who taught Devin Hester how to return kicks deserves a promotion. This isn't just a football thing. Even Wal-Mart, which sells everything from medicine to medicine balls, has a chief toy officer. So isn't it curious that NFL scouting departments, responsible for evaluating everybody from fat nose tackles to skinny wide receivers, don't have people whose sole responsibility is quarterbacks? Bears general manager Jerry Angelo and his scouts are respected talent evaluators. But not even the best evaluators can be equally adept at judging players at every football position. Some scouts have to be better at linemen, others at skill-position players … and one special guy has to be better at quarterbacks. That's all the guy should do. He would compile a filing cabinet full of reports on everybody who ever played quarterback on any level. He would sit in the basement in his pajamas and stare at big flow charts that constantly monitor quarterbacks. Then when he drives along and spots a youth game in a park, his car automatically would stop to see how the kid QBs throw. He would travel the country to watch quarterbacks in NFL, college, junior college, high school and beer-league games. Quiz him on the position and you'll never get the wrong answer. "Who throws left-handed, stands 6-feet-3, weighs 225 pounds, has limited mobility and delivers slightly side-arm?" "That would be Eddie St. Pierre, never went to college, works the fields in Louisiana, mother is a seamstress, father is serving life for murdering a clarinetist." Correct. "Who throws right-handed, stands 6-1, weighs 210 pounds, attends a Lutheran college in the Midwest and runs the 40 in 4.7?" "That would be … no, it has to be … er, he must be … wait, no such quarterback exists." Correct again. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems teams don't employ one guy -- a quarterback nerd, if you will -- to fill the role I'm describing. And what team would need him more than the team that hasn't had a great quarterback since Sid Luckman back in the 1940s? Apparently nobody was around to tell Bears management that Gary Huff, Mike Phipps, Bob Avellini and Peter Tom Willis … right through Cade McNown, Henry Burris, Chad Hutchinson and Kordell Stewart … and up to Rex Grossman, Brian Griese and Kyle Orton … that all were little more than throwaway throwers. Seriously, somebody at Halas Hall has to scout the scouts to find that one guy who knows quarterbacks better than anyone else on the planet.

Well I think the only people who were thinking about getting paid were Briggs and Harris. Now you would have to go back and watch the tape to see if they weren't staying in their gaps or what not to try and make a big play on their own. I don't know, but I don't remember it being discussed much last year. I think the biggest key was injuries. Vasher, Harris, Urlacher, Brown, Archuleta, Briggs, Dvorcek, Anderson, Tillman, Walker, Adams...am I missing any? All missed time or played hurt. Two players that missed the most time, Vasher and Brown, are absolutely vital to the success of this defense.

I think Devin would stay the same and Jacob would add a J. Anyway I hope we have to find out the answer.

Glad to see I'm not alone. Was that always in your sig??

I know I'm probably the only one, but I figured I'd throw it out there. I think Jacob Hester would look great in Bears uni. I'm hoping the Bears take a flyer on him on Day 2. A solid blocker and receiver. He has the kind of versatility that will force the defense to make the FB be accounted for. He's great on specials teams. What he lacks in size he more than makes up for in work ethic, technique and heart. Things that are way too often overlooked by all the statheads out there. McKie is pretty underwhelming. I mean whenever his hands touch the ball the collective thought from every Bears fan is usually...WTF?? Hester has the chance to make a game altering play, while giving you the tough as nails consistency the FB position demands. I also think it's time to cut our losses with Wolfe. I know some here have an infatuation with him, but how can we have a 3rd down back that can't block a lb or a lineman that breaks free. Hell, Wolfe has trouble not getting run over by a safety. The dude has really overcome a lot and from all I know about him, is a pretty great guy, but 3rd down's are passing downs a good % of the time . We can't just give him the ball every time he gets in like last year. Is there really room on the roster for a specialty back like this...Not an every down back, not a 3rd down back, just a once in a while when the flow of the game dictates back??? I don't see it. 3rd downs would be a perfect spot for a guy like Hester to be in the game. He has the versatility to be a part of whatever play you want to run in that situation. ok...let the flaming begin.

Just a suggestion here, but try to add a small amount of tact to your posts. Your posts always come of as hostile. For the record, I agree with your opinion on Rex. I hope they sign him, have an open competition in camp and I'm 100% confident he will beat out Orton. I will say that I didn't think there was a chance in hell that Rex would come back here. If I was him I would bolt and start over. I think it's a sign of his testicular fortitude if he stays here. I think he's chomping at the bit to stay here and prove everyone wrong.

Not sure about where to spend the money or whatever, but I will say I am very happy with the moves made yesterday.

Agree 100%. Faneca is worth every penny.

We'll agree to disagree. Metcalf was fricken horrible....and Fred Miller was overmatched 50% of the time. Beekman and Oakley are professional football players getting paid to play. What can they do...blow their assignment?? hahaha....it happened every other play last year. IMO this team would have been much better served with St Clair taking over for Miller and Beekman playing for Brown/Metcalf. That would have taken some balls though. Lovie would have had to bench Miller and Metcalf, in essence laying some accountability on their shoulders. But we can't have that....nobody is held accountable on this team. Drop passes. Cut off your routes. Quit on your block. Quit on your tackle. Make boneheaded play after boneheaded play.....go ahead...Nobody is going to punish you for it. This team lacked discipline like none I can remember and it didn't seem to matter to anyone. Oh and I'm not saying they should have thrown them in there cold. They should have been splitting practice time. Metcalf and Miller both should have been told their play was unacceptable and put on notice. This could have happened with 5 weeks left and the first major freak up they had they should have been pulled. If whoever came in was clearly overmatched throughout their time in there...well then the team has something to go on. Same goes for Hass. Moose, who is in direct compeition with Khabibulin for the biggest ripoff in Chicago sports, should have been forced to split time at the halfway point of the season. I would also argue Berrian should have been in the same boat with Bradley gettin a shot.

Oakley and Rideu are two other guys I would have liked to see, but yeah Beekman and Hass are the big ones and guess what...Oline and WR are two of the biggest question marks we have. It would have been nice to evaluate those guys in some meaningless games at the end of the year.

I reluctantly see your point. I can't however, just write off a player who I believe, will bring so much to this offense as well as to whoever the QB is. I don't really need to say it cause we all know our WR's were pretty horse shit this past year...lacking discipline, dropping balls, cutting off routes etc. Lovie rewarded them, but not doing a dam thing. If camp is an open competition at the WR position, which it should be based on last season, Hass will beat out the competition. Moose should absolutely have no guarantee as the starter and if we happen to sign Booker...he shouldn't either. If we sign a big FA, then I'm all for penciling him in, but big FA does not equal Booker IMO. I'm glad you're on the bandwagon though...even if you are hanging from the bumper.

Well yeah my comparisons on his hands and route running aren't based on stats. There are no stats for those measurables. It's based on what I've seen. Yes it is strictly my opinion. The guy has succeeded at every stage, as soon as he was given the chance. It's just ridiculous for this team, as well as the fans here to write him off as not being part of the future. The only thing that will stop him from being a top slot WR on this team or in the league for that matter, is him not getting a chance.

The answer to your question is A) You want to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt when they didn't play any of the young guys. ..Ridiculous. You're dam right Hass should have played...so should a number of other young players, but the coaching staff chose not to do it. For that you want to say he's not NFL worthy. Give me a break. I guess we should dump Beekman as well.

Every time you go with a young receiver you're going on potential...but with a stellar college career, a biletnikoff award and two training camps where he caught everything thrown to him...that potential is pretty high. I like Booker, I have no problem with him and if I really had to choose between him and moose, it would be him. But Hass is the same size, younger, probably faster(although neither are speed demons), a better route runner and has just as good if not better hands. IMO the money is way better spent elseware.

Yes. The best pure natural receiver on this team. He never even gets mentioned in these threads....it's a fuckin shame. Marty Booker??

And per the usual the best wide out on this team is ignored.

And per the usual the best wide out on this team is ignored.

exactly...

This game just goes to show that the 85 bears could have easily beat the Pats. The Giants Defense shut em down. Imagine what the Bears would do. People don't get how close they were to shutting out every team in the playoffs. Are you kidding me? Can some of you not comprehend that. These are the best teams of the year in the playoffs and they couldn't score 1 point against the Bears Def?? They couldn't get in position to kick one fuckin field goal?? That fluke fumble at the beginning of the SB is the only reason that game wasn't a shutout. They would have easily kept that game scoreless if not for already giving up those 3 points. New England only ran 21 plays in the first half(only 4 of which resulted in positive yardage), -19 total offensive yards, 2 pass completions, 1 first down, and 3 points. Meanwhile, Chicago gained 236 yards and scored 23 points themselves. I'm sorry Hester 3:16, but for anyone to say the Bears would lose by 2-3 touchdowns is just crazy. I mean if you want to argue it would be a close game...fine you can try and make that point, but to say the bears D would get dominated is crazy. Maybe you need to go rewatch the games. Take a look at how Montana and the prolific San Fran offense did against the Bears.

send him the hampton article

I forgot about how that one fluke fumble probably cost this team a shutout in the SB. Totally Dominating!!!