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  1. Dont forgot that every game we lost was direct result of him in the Super Bowl Season. Ah hmmm'. We have no starting QB on this roster

     

    So he gets no credit for the 15 wins, but he gets all of the blame for the 4 losses? I know the defense was a big part of what they did, but these kind of statements are just ridiculous

  2. Thomas would probably be a great option, but that guy has had some concussion problems the last couple years. It would not do the Bears any good to sign Thomas to replace Briggs and watch him take a hit in the first game and sit the rest of the year like Dan Morgan. A guy with concussion problems who is in his later years as a player is someone you want to avoid, despite his career(see: Trent Green)

  3. I don't really know how I feel about this...I think if we did make a move for him we would be giving up too much for an old man....and he'd probably just come to Chicago to die.....

     

    oh, and by the way.....you're all jagbags....

     

     

     

    .......Of the Day!

  4. Sorry I'm trying to think of ways to make this team a contender, jagbag.

     

    Fine. Since I haven't traded away our 6th and 7th, let me take back the 2nd/3rd trade idea for McNabb and say that we'll trade our 6th and 7th for McNabb. Yes, b/c that will definitley land him in Chicago.

     

    LOL, jagbag. Ok.

     

    While you are trying to think of ways to make the team a contender, try and think within the rules, and try to understand you cannot sign and trade players as if this was the NBA.

  5. Just reported on SC the Vikings, Bears, and Falcons (I think ATL was the 3rd team) all want McNabb. However, a journalist from Philly says they will keep him 1 more year. To make the Eagles change their mind, what would you give up for him? I'd sign and trade Rex and trade our 2nd and one of our 3rds.

     

    How many times have you traded the Bears 2nd and 3rd Round picks (and either Anderson or Brown) since the season ended? Just wondering

  6. Please give up dreaming for Derek Anderson. He isnt coming, and if he was, you would quickly realize that he isnt as great as you think he is.

     

    Certainly not great enough to warrant a 1st and 3rd

  7. While I agree the Mandarich analogy is a stretch, I think his point refers to the idea of players who have big jumps in the offseason.

     

    I don't know much about Flacco, but I too question many of the players who, after actually play is done, begin exploding up the draft boards. Again, this is not in reference to Flacco, as I said I don't know as much about him, but I always question the workout warriors. So often you see a guy who is considered maybe a late 2nd round pick (for example) who drops eye popping numbers on track surfaces, and shoots well into the 1st round. A RB who never showed great explosion on the field, but then puts up a 4.3 40 on a track becomes a mid 1st rounder. An OT who leads all players in bench reps explodes up the charts. A QB, who in drills, does things rarely seen from him when under pressure. These are players I prefer to avoid.

     

    Players I like are the ones who have more questionable workouts after solid college careers. I remember Kevin Jones was considered a huge speed/home run threat. Anyone who watched him in college knew he was fast. Then he runs average at best 40s on a track, and suddenly he isn't a speed back, and falls in the draft.

     

    That is the "sort" of player I like to draft, as I consider them great values, while avoiding the John Thierry workout warriors.

     

    Flacco had a pretty good college career. He originally went to Pitt but wanted to start right away so he transferred to Delaware St.

     

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=146278

  8. Just for the record, I think Flacco is a huge reach in the second round. He's slowly morphing into the QB version of Mandarich.

    I'd like it if the Bears went after another OLineman in the 2nd.

     

    this is apples and oranges, Mandarich was the second overall pick in the draft, not a second round pick. Mandarich' problem was that the he didnt live up to the media expectations of "the best offensive lineman ever", and the Packers had to deal with all of the players that they missed in the first round(Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders were in the same draft. total draft list). Will everyone be lamenting what 2nd round and 3rd round picks the Bears missed on because they selected Flacco? Doubtful.

     

    What has Flacco done to lower his value? I have heard nothing that indicates that Flacco is messing up at his workouts, and all I am hearing is good things about him.

  9. The worry with Stallworth before this season has always, always been injuries, and I think the simple fact that Berrian doesn't have the track record of getting hurt as much will make Berrian more valuable.

     

    you beat me to the punch, the guy cannot stay healthy.

     

    He is electric when healthy, but he just cant stay on the field

  10. Who are you responding too? Who said we should not get the ball into the hands of Hester? The point being made, as I see it, is you want to use Hester like NE uses Welker, while Bradjock and I are making the point that Hester is a VERY different WR. That doesn't mean we do not want to get the ball into the hands of Hester, but feel like if we look at Hester and try to make him into Welker, we would not develop him well, nor help our offense.

     

    How many WRs can you think of that come into the league and develop into elite route runners? I honestly can not think of a signle one. Most WRs like Welker, who are known for running such great routes, were known for such back in their college days as well. You also try to teach and work on route running, but IMHO, there are simply some WRs that are going to excel in this area, while most others will never be more than average. Same thing w/ many attributes. By the time you reach the NFL level, rarely do you turn a negative into a huge positive. You may well do enough so the negative is no longer a negative, or even a slight positive, but I do not think you often see it become a huge positive. Does that make sense. A guy w/ poor hands in college may become a decent hands guy, but likely will never be considered a sticky fingers guy.

     

    Hester has some tremendous attributes, but I think it unrealistic to believe he will ever develop the route running abilities of Welker. Regardless of that, he can still become a damn good weapon, but simply a different one.

     

    Is this question also in reference to Hester switching positions? In that case I would have to say that Hines Ward is one. However, the caveat is that Ward was a QB in college, so the idea of route running and patterns is probably burned into his brain anyways.

  11. I see it as more east coast bias. But I am glad to finally see Monk get in. It's ridiculous how long it's taken for that guy.

     

    Well, if it truly was an east coast bias then Monk would have gotten in years ago, no?

  12. Dent doesnt make the Hall of Fame this year

     

     

     

    The Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2008 will not include former Bears defensive end Richard Dent, but it will include fellow pass rushers Fred Dean and Andre Tippett.

     

    Also voted in Saturday were former Redskins Darrell Green and Art Monk and former Viking and Bronco Gary Zimmerman.

     

    Former Chiefs cornerback Emmitt Thomas was selected as a senior candidate.

     

    Dent made the cut from the final 15 to 10 along with former Vikings receiver Cris Carter, former Dolphins guard Bob Kuechenberg, former Vikings guard Randall McDaniel and former Chiefs linebacker Derrick Thomas. But those five players were eliminated in the next round of voting.

     

    "No disrespect to Fred Dean or Andre Tippett, but I'm disappointed in the fact that if you compared those guys to me, I think you would take me ahead of them," said Dent, who was a finalist for the fourth time. "I'm disappointed in the process. It doesn't make sense."

     

    Dent, however, makes plenty of sense. As one of the 40 voters and the one responsible for opening the discussion on Dent, I thought he compared favorably with Tippett and Dean by almost any measure.

     

    Dent had 137½ career sacks compared to 100 for Tippett, the former Patriots linebacker. Dean, the former Chargers and 49ers defensive end, played most of his career before sacks became an official statistic, but football researcher John Turney estimates Dean had 93 career sacks.

     

    Dent had eight seasons in which he had 10 sacks. Dean had an estimated five. Tippett had three.

     

    Dent had 21 career takeaways. Tippett had 18. Dean had 14.

     

    Dent had 37 career forced fumbles. Tippett had 14. Dean had eight, though figures for forced fumbles are unavailable for the first four years of his career.

     

    Dent had 58 passes defended. Tippett had 17. Dean had 13, not including the first four years of his career.

     

    Dent also was an outstanding run defender. Tippett was a fine run defender as well, but Dean was a 230-pound situational player for most of his career.

     

    Dean garnered support of the voters because he helped change the game as the first stand-up defensive end. Dean said he wished he could thank late 49ers coach Bill Walsh for making him that.

     

    "I'm trying to get my heart in order because it's still racing," Dean said by telephone shortly after being informed of his election.

     

    Tippett called being elected the "proudest moment" of his professional career. The proudest moment of Dent's professional career remains winning the Super Bowl XX Most Valuable Player Award against Tippett and the Patriots.

     

    Unlike Dent, Tippett did not have the benefit of playing alongside other great defenders. Tippett was a member of the NFL's 1980s all-decade team, was the AFC defensive player of the year in 1985 and played in five Pro Bowls.

     

    Dent played in only four Pro Bowls. He did not make an all-decade team and never was named defensive player of the year. Dent believes he would have received more honors in his career if his team had promoted him more. He came into the league as an eighth-round pick and, on a team full of stars, he never was the organization's favored son.

     

    But Dent made the most plays on the defense many consider the best of all time. For whatever reason, that wasn't enough to sway 80 percent of the electors, who vote by secret ballot.

     

    Green, the former Redskins cornerback, was elected in his first year of eligibility. Green is only 5 feet 9 inches tall, but he never let his height be a detriment in a wonderful 20-year career with the Redskins. In Chicago, he always will be remembered for his 52-yard punt return for a touchdown at Soldier Field in the 1987 playoffs in which he jumped over Cap Boso, clinching a 21-17 Redskins victory over the Bears.

     

    At the news conference announcing the selections, Green was touched.

     

    "I don't even know what to say," he said. "How did I get here?"

     

    Green walked on to his team as a junior in high school. Then he walked on to his college team at Texas A & I. He said for his entire career, he felt he was overpaid.

     

    Zimmerman, one of the great offensive tackles of his era, reacted modestly.

     

    "I never dreamed this day would come," he said. "I never considered myself this caliber of player. … I come from the era, we would have done this for free it was so much fun."

     

    For Monk, the news of his election was especially gratifying because it came in the receiver's eighth year of eligibility.

     

    "I always took the attitude that if it happens, it happens," Monk said. "It's out of my control, and there is nothing I can do about it. It's all based on God's timing."

     

    To be voted in, candidates needed to receive 32 of 40 votes. Candidates who failed to make it to the top 10 were former Broncos linebacker Randy Gradishar, former Redskins guard Russ Grimm, former Raiders punter Ray Guy, former Bills wide receiver Andre Reed and former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue. Former Chicago Cardinals defensive back Marshall Goldberg, a senior candidate, also failed to be selected.

     

    The good news for Dent and Derrick Thomas is two pass rushers broke the logjam. Next year they should be at the front of the line

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