Bears4Ever_34
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Agreed. Hate both 1st round and 3rd round pick. Hardin may be a terrific special teamer but I don't see how he was the best football player available.
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Well that's great. Another injury prone safety
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So we just drafted another FS?
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Emery said he wants role players in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Doesn't sound like an OL, so I'm guessing a rotational DT or S. I like this Massie guy though.
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I'd take Dennard if he's there. Not sure what OL is still available. Massie?
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What is Detroit thinking? Ryan Broyles? I like Broyles but what did they draft Titus Young for last year then?
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Bennett now gets to play his best position as a #3 and Hester can back him up while Jeffery gets single coverage all game with Brandon Marshall dominating every corner that tries to stop him. We're talking about a guy that made Derell Revis look like a scrub. Can't wait to see our offense now.
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Talk about major YAC. Jeffery is one of the more physical runners after the catch in college football. Brandon Marshall is probably the best in all of the NFL in terms of running after the catch. Two huge Redzone targets. What's that noise I hear? Oh that's just the collective groan from all NFC North teams after this pick.
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Woot! Good pick by Bears. I would have preferred Randle but I'm okay with this. Now go get an OL and a CB.
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Freaking Jets trade up to take Hill.. Bears should have dealt a pick to move up to get him.
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Isn't McClellin just a situational pass rusher?
Bears4Ever_34 replied to bradjock's topic in Bearstalk
I'm not talking about the kid, I'm talking about Emery bringing up McClellin's special teams skills as if they expected him to play special teams after being picked 19th overall in the NFL Draft or that it actually meant something in the evaluation process. -
Isn't McClellin just a situational pass rusher?
Bears4Ever_34 replied to bradjock's topic in Bearstalk
One thing I NEVER want to hear out of a GM's mouth when talking about a 1st round pick is that they are a great special teams player. I know it was somewhat of a throwaway comment but come on. We're really going to spend time on a guys special teams skills with the 19th pick in the NFL draft? He should be a guy that starts from day 1 of the draft and makes an immediate impact. The Hub comments were interesting. I generally pay no mind to what he has to say but I can't help but agree with him on his comments about McClellin. He mentioned that a source close to the organization told him he thinks they envision McClellin actually as more of an inside LB in a 3-4 as opposed to playing on the outside. I found that particularly interesting. I personally believe that Emery is confident that Shea can play DE in a 4-3 scheme but I think he's more confident that he will be better served in a 3-4 scheme. It's food for thought. -
Oh for the love of god First of all, unless your brain is wired differently than a normal human being, it's physically impossible to avoid noticing the most evident physical trait on the human body. Using race to determine whether or not someone is capable of playing football is dumb and meaningless. If that's what you think I'm doing, then I suggest enrolling to the reading comprehension school for the dumb. Secondly, you clearly have no idea what racism is. The definition of racism comes from carrying out acts of hatred and bigotry due to belief in superiority of one race over another. Clearly that's exactly what I've done. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming..
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The fact of the matter is, when comparing against other players, ethnicity is the first thing people take note of, and whether they like it or not it immediately brings to mind other players of similar background. That is just how the brain works with association and that's all I've been trying to say. Now if people want to bring up this nonsense about racism or what have you, I'd tell them to go kick rocks and that they have no idea what the definition of that word means.
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My board: Stephen Hill Reuben Randle Alshon Jeffery Brian Quick *Trade up for an extra 2nd rounder* and take Jeff Allen I want a WR in one of these next two rounds. I'd prefer round 2 because then all the talent starts to drop off. I assume most of these receivers are going to start dropping like flies in the 2nd. You might be able to get Jaron Criner or Dwight Jones in the 3rd, but those guys aren't the prospects of the 4 that I listed above. Also, anyone think Janoris Jenkins should be under consideration here? I'm not sure. I'm leaning towards no.
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AND......? Come on now, lets not play dumb. If that was the reason, why aren't experts comparing Larry to Kevin Durant? He's a long guy that can shoot and can make plays, plays the same position, shoots FT's at a high %. We are pretending like this sort of thing doesn't happen but it does all the time, in the sport's world.
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Well, Emery certainly knows a lot more about scouting than I do, so there's hope after all. But seeing how we are all able to voice are opinions about what we see and can analyze, I just don't like the pick, considering all the other options that were available. I hope he turns out, for Emery's sake and the Bears. 1st round busts is the quickest way to getting yourself fired. He better be sure.
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A lot of people now are drawing comparisons from Dirk Nowitzki to Larry Bird. Why do you think that is?
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Sure, you could do that. But that wouldn't be my initial thought. People are blowing this whole thing out of epic proportions. I'm not saying you can't compare racial backgrounds between players, but the normal reaction to a question of "who does this guy remind you of" would be to first think of someone that share those same backgrounds.
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There is no race discussion. Let's not overreact. I don't have time for people not smart enough to understand the context of the question. Apologies if there was any offense taken with my comments. Didn't think they needed an explanation being as they were quite innocuous.
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There is nothing ignorant with what I said. The question called for a comparison. You wouldn't associate Brian Urlacher to Ray Lewis when someone asks you who he reminds you of would you? No. You are more likely to compare Urlacher to another white MLB with similar skill sets. In basketball, you wouldn't associate a player Steve Nash to Rajon Rondo even though both players share similar court vision on the floor and are able to make incredible passes. You would be more likely to compare Steve Nash to John Stockton because of the obvious. That's all. No harm no foul. Of course there is. But there is also legit concern over Shea McClellin. Even more so considering he was being touted by mostly 3-4 teams, regardless of whether or not he played DE for Boise State. That happens all the time. The rarity is taking an OLB and converting him into a DE. He got better? He was given more opportunities to play and had only 2 starts his sophomore season. It's highly highly unlikely that he goes from a 16 sack season to 1, assuming he was injury free. 16 probably wouldn't happen again, but only 1? That's extremely hard to imagine. Don't lose sight of what we are comparing here. We aren't comparing Whitney Mercilus competition to Michael Brockers, Courtney Upshaw or some other SEC school. You seem to casually dismiss the points that I'm making by beating around the bush. As I mentioned, 7 of Mercilus' 16 sacks came from quality competition. His sample size is small, but so is Shea McClellin's when you factor in the quality of opponent.
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Because Dan Bazuin is white, why would I associate a black guy to Dan Bazuin? Mercilus lead the FBS in total sacks and forced fumbles in a much tougher conference than the Mountain West. You don't just wake up one day and record 16 sacks and force 9 fumbles because you're lucky. Mercilus is a 3 year player, McClellin played 4 years and recorded a grand total of 2 more sacks. Who's to say Mercilus wouldn't have put up another double digit sack total if he had stayed another year? Hmm Lets compare the two conferences for a second. Big Ten University of Michigan Northwestern University University of Minnesota The Ohio State University Purdue University University of Wisconsin The Pennsylvania State University University of Illinois Indiana University Michigan State University University of Nebraska University of Iowa Mountain West Conference United States Air Force Academy Boise State University Colorado State University University of Nevada University of New Mexico San Diego State University Texas Christian University University of Wyoming Remind me again who plays in the tougher conference? It's not like Whitney only beat up on bad teams, he produced against both. 7 of his 16 sacks came from Ohio State, Penn State, Arizona State, Michigan, and Wisconsin. That's almost half his sack total from the year coming against good competition. 2 were in the BCS. McClellin didn't play but a small handful of quality teams in the past two seasons. Keep in mind how many games ended in blowouts which puts any pass rusher in the most ideal situation possible.
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No because they are all black More like Chandler Jones, who has the frame to put on weight, but I'd take Mercilus. At least he played in the Big 10 and not a school that dominates it's competition by playing the North Dakota States of the world.
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+1 Would be thrilled if that was our 2nd round although, I'd rather have Jeff Allen and Randle, but I could settle for that.