Bears4Ever_34

Good guy, Terrible football player.

It's not an ideal situation. The WR position is almost the polar opposite of RB. It's awfully tough for rookie WR's to come in and make an impact immediately. There is a learning curve in most cases. Adding a veteran FA WR to go along with a young rookie is the best thing the Bears could do. If they were to add 2 WR's in back to back rounds, it would mean that they either struck out in free agency or they signed one of the big fish that they weren't expected to get (Williams, Nicks). The infusion of young talent at that position would be exciting for Cutler in the offense, so in that sense I wouldn't be against it, but if none of those guys turn out, then you're in a world of hurt. That's why a vet is so important. And not just any vet, I'm talking about one that can still play.

Usually that is the case with the combine. There's always a guy that comes into the combine every year that blows his competition out of the water with his 40 time and or bench press reps. However if you were in a vacuum and had to pick players, you'd probably be more enticed to get the guy that bench presses 30+ times for his position as opposed to a guy that's only putting it up 18-19 times. Workouts are very tricky but I don't think they are over rated. I think it says more about a guy that's obviously not putting the time in the weight room as opposed to a guy that does.

I think Royal should be included in any free agency scenario, just as a Cutler present. He'll come cheap and has experience on special teams, in case Hester was to go down at any point. I like Colston but the one thing I worry about with him is how much of a product of the system was he? He was a 7th round draft pick that came into the perfect situation where he got to play all of his home games in a dome and an offense that was very pass friendly. Vincent Jackson scares me a little bit as well. He's 29 and has an injury history as well as a history of not trying, or being lazy. Personally, my plan would be to take a possession guy in Colston and develop a young speedy receiver in the draft to be your future #1. I'd make Floyd an exception if he somehow fell to us but otherwise Stephen Hill and Kendall Wright are the two guys I'd have as my backup plans going in to this years draft. Hill's status is tricky because he's probably not good enough to be picked at 19 but will he be there by the time the Bears second round pick comes up?

There was a report today that the Saints are still far apart on getting Brees to sign a long term contract. They will place the franchise tag on him if no deal can be reached by Monday. Could mean Carl Nicks gets thrown into the mix here unless the Saints are ready to fork over a fortune for their All-Pro guard.

His stock is going to fall off the map. That's pretty embarrassing for a lineman.

I think Hill is now probably a shoe in for the 2nd round at least, given his combine results. I don't see too many teams passing on him once it gets into the middle of the 2nd round but we'll see.

Reggie Wayne is too old for me. If were going to go with someone past his prime I'd rather have Randy Moss. I'd go after a Vincent Jackson or Marcus Colston and then take a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. If a guy like Michael Floyd isn't available, Stephen Hill and Kendall Wright are two guys that I've taken a liking to. Hill's got great character and very well articulated from what I've seen in some of his interviews. He caught every ball when he was going through the gauntlet and his 4.3 speed is pretty scary for a man that's 6'4. Only question with him is can he become a focal point in an offense? He didn't get many attempts at Georgia Tech with their option offense but he averaged 29 yards/catch.

Stephen Hill could be a sleeper. He would fit the Big play making WR that Lovie keeps talking about. He won't last till the 3rd. Sounds like he'll be a late first early second with those measurables and 40 time.

Floyd ran a 4.42 and Wright just ran a 4.45 probably can take Floyd off the list now.. Thanks Lovie for winning a meaningless game against the Vikings when we could have picked 11th or 12th..

They'd still have 7 picks left to add a couple of offensive lineman in the draft if they wanted. Not alot out their in free agency for lineman unless we take a chance on McNeil, but that's assuming he can even pass a physical. No matter how you slice it, Emery is going to have to hit on alot of his early round picks this year for the Bears to start stockpiling some talent for the long haul. Alot of this should become more clear once free agency has come and gone.

Possible. They could also go in with the idea of drafting a WR after getting a veteran FA to change one of their weaknesses into a strength. Colston and Wright would not be a bad combination. Neither would Bowe and Floyd, hypothetically speaking.

Lovie made some comments yesterday about needing a bigger receiver and having better depth at the quarterback and safety positions. I believe he was interviewed at the combine. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,145831.column

This is a make or break year for Kellen Davis though. He's had some built in excuses up until now. Being a young player playing behind Greg Olsen and Dez Clark for a couple seasons, then got buried in Martz's playbook, which is notoriously known for ignoring the TE in the passing game. If he doesn't have a good season, this time next year we should be looking for a new TE.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/protect...l&year=2011 That site is pretty interesting in how they rate an offensive lines performance. Were ranked last out of 32 NFL teams. Pretty bad stuff, yet the number is also deceptive because of the impact from Cutler's injury. Before our best player went down we were ranked in the middle of the pack, I believe it was around 17th after San Diego. Don't think it was a coincidence that the numbers were drastically altered when your backup quarterback was one of the worst in the league. Hell we went into the negatives after Cutler went down 3 times in the last 5 weeks of the season! Make no mistake, we need offensive line help but it's not more important than getting quality WR's. Were not rolling out Devin Hester, Dane Sanzenbacher, and Earl Bennett out there as our starting unit next season. We need talented bodies and bodies in general with Knox's status up in the air. The new scheme will definitely help the line get better just by virtue of less 7 step drops and changing the pocket, you know, like most other teams in the league do. Thankfully we should have a legit shot at a veteran WR in free agency so you could kill two birds with one stone if you wanted to.

The feeling I get is that you don't really understand a word of what I've said throughout this entire conversation. It's really not that complicated so I'm not going to waste time re-explaining what should be a pretty simple concept to understand. But In summation, 1- I have no idea either way, whether the number is 7 mill, 20 mill, 28 mill, or 40 mill. You have already said you know for a fact it's not 40 mil. Why or how you have that Knowledge, is beyond me. 2- You're backed into a corner with nothing of substance to offer in your posts so you start grandstanding to hide behind your lack of ability to formulate a coherent and understandable opinion. 3- I'll repeat point 1 because as many times as I've repeated it already (5 times now) I guess people still need me to keep emphasizing it every other line so you don't forget. I don't know and frankly don't really care what the number is. There has been multiple reports out there, each with a different number. If it ends up being 20 mill, awesome. If it ends up 28 mill, awesome. If it ends up being 40 mill, awesome. You can't really attempt to insult me by saying "We wont hear from you when the true figure comes out" as if I have been like you and took a stand as to what the number is. Finally, let me ask you a question. And this goes out to anybody.. How do you know that the number isn't going to be 40 million? Because it amazes me how some people can have such a concrete unwavering opinion on exactly what it is.. especially without really saying anything. Oh, and don't answer it with "Because I think it is..". I want a clear, well thought out response to the question. Give me evidence against why it's not going to be 40 mill. I want reasons why this guy is wrong. I want you to dig in and give me exact reasons. If you're going to dismiss it entirely, you have to atleast know why you are writing it off. *Disclaimer statement* He may very well be wrong.. But nobody has given a real reason why yet. And one more time for good measure, I am not arguing for or against the idea of any number. Your original claim was that it IS NOT true and it bothers me when you would say that without a basis to back up your claim.

I would be interested as well.

Ahh you might want to try again.. Or perhaps re-read the thread.

Nah, I just don't like it when people say something isn't true, but then fail to give a legitimate reason why. Eh.. You sure seemed like you were pretty sure when you said "because it bugs me that people get on here and say we have 40 mill available.IT AINT TRUE." The all caps kind of gave it away. You're insisting that I have taken a side, that one person is right over the other, when that's simply not the case, as I've mentioned for the 3rd time now. If you're going to write something off, atleast do it when there's an idiot that comes up with a number without citing any of his information. I have no idea what this line is even about. Or where It came from. Yeah now you're just pulling shit out of your ass.

I wouldn't be upset if either he or Kendall Wright fell to us at 19.

Case in point. But you did say it wasn't true, which is different than actually thinking it. Again, you don't seem to comprehend that I'm not 'saying' anything. I'm not betting on one way or the other; just pointing out that there is a legitimate case to be made for a man that's had a good history of getting it right.

Well it's not my projection. But you seem to be dismissing it just because you want to, not because you have reason too. Notice how many times the number has changed already. That speaks to the level of ambiguity that has taken place among all members of the media; each formulating a different number. To say you know with absolute certainty that it's not 'X amount' is ludicrous.

No to Wallace and a 1st rounder. There are plenty of talented WR's that will be available in the free agent pool. Mike Wallace isn't good enough to make an exception for in regards to throwing away a 1st round pick.

Why? Because Brad Biggs is the be all end all on Capology? Look, there will be plenty of reports from now until the end of free agency that will bring about all sorts of different numbers. Media reports false numbers all the time and then never take responsibility for it because they just move to different numbers after we spend more than they say. Nobody is saying one guy is right over the other. How the hell do we know? The guy we keep bringing up has had a really good track record for the last decade, so its not something you can just dismiss because you can't come up with any good enough reasons yourself, other than writing "IT AINT TRUE" in really big letters from an anonymous website that you are supposedly getting your information from.

I would be surprised if he doesn't get franchised. Nicks is more important to them than Colston is but they may end up using it on Drew Brees if they can't get a deal done. If he's out on the open market, you pay a hefty price but if someone wants to give him 60 mil, more power too them. I wouldn't.