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Not really. Emery's qualifications certainly appeal more to me than Jason Licht who, hasn't even been in a draft room. I know one report has contradicted that since but there's been the overriding sense that I get from the people I've heard talk and reports I've seen is that he hasn't been all that "hands on" with the draft that other candidates have been (Raye, and Ross). If the Bears continue doing what they've always done, Emery will be the hire because he's friends with Ted and has worked here before.

This could be more leverage than anything from Johnson's side. I wouldn't mind him if he was sort of a last option. I prefer Bowe, Jackson, Colston, and Finley over him.

Neither is a guy that's going to blow you away. At this point, I don't really even care because I don't know either guy. Just draft well. Emery is most likely going to get the job because he's familiar with the Bears already. I'm not even sure why Licht is being interviewed again.

I like what I hear.

I'd have to know exactly who's available and who isn't by the time we picked but I value Kendall Wright very high if Floyd is off the draft board. Jeffery and Wright is a toss up to me.

How are we doing this without a GM? Is Ruskell leading this?

Emery will most likely get the job because he's been with the Bears before and has worked with Tim Ruskell back in Atlanta. Ted Phillips objective is to save as many jobs as he can including himself. Emery would be the safe, easy hire that the Bears have become synonymous with for a number of years. But were also not really hiring a GM. We're hiring a player personnel director. A real GM gets to hire and fire his own coaches and actually has "real" power.

I'm not in on the interviews but just from an outsiders view, from what I've heard is that this Licht guy has never been in a draft room. He's never run a draft like others have (Ross and Raye) and I don't know about Emery. What possible reason would you have to give him a 2nd interview if your trying to hire a guy to draft well. How much longer could an interview go on for if one of the first questions asked was, "So.. Have you ever been in a draft room?" What else is there left to answer?

I don't get it, but maybe he's just a bad interviewer. He was also passed over by Indy for a lesser known guy in Griggson. What's scary to me is Licht and Ruskell are still out there and haven't been dismissed yet as candidates.

Every news media outlet has us signing Emery as the new GM. Once I found out about the Ruskell stuff and how he was connected with the Bears before, I thought this hiring was inevitable. This was such a comfortable, easy hire for Ted Phillips. Now everybody gets to keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/#!/Kiplewistv/statu...543222890475521 I suspect Licht will be the next guy eliminated from the list. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ross and Emery in for secondary interviews this week. Though I think Emery is going to be the guy. Edit: BobMcGinn Bob McGinn The #Bears on the verge of hiring #Chiefs dir. of college scouting Phil Emery as GM. NFL sources said just a matter now of dotting the i's. 5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Retweeted by @yourboyroy

How was his body language when he found out?

He's only an ILB and seeing how we are going to have Urlacher there for atleast 2-3 more seasons, drafting him in the 1st round would be a waste. I think he goes to Detroit to make them the dirtiest team of all time.

It is possible. I would be shocked if Floyd was actually there at 19. I don't see how teams pass on his talent when there are quite a few teams out there like us, that need receiver help. Philly might even be inclined to take one if they don't plan on resigning Desean Jackson, and you have to think New York might need a guy like Floyd to help out Sanchez.

If we came away this offseason with Bowe and Floyd I wouldn't complain. We have so many options going into next year that we could completely revamp one of our weaknesses and make it one of our greatest strengths. We could go all in on receivers (Sign a guy, draft another) we could go all in on offensive line (Draft one, sign another) or we can pick and choose different spots and do a little of each (I.E Sign Nicks, draft Floyd.. or Sign Finley, Manningham, draft OL etc..) lots of options. I don't see how we could possibly screw this one up but this is the Bears we are talking about.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I just want, for ONE damn time, the Bears to hire someone that has no prior connections or is not a friend of Lovie Smith to work here. Is that so much to ask? It's like the show "Friends" at Halas Hall because everyone tries to get jobs for their buddies. It's just annoying.

Once I heard that he worked with Ruskell and the Bears before, I don't want him anymore. Go with Ross, who's a young up and comer. But knowing the Bears, they like to save everybody's jobs so they'll go with Emery because he'll keep Donut man Ruskell.

I don't agree with the second part about which is better, but I'll give you that if you're trading up, all things considered, Kalil would be more worth it.

My comment about Martz and his deep patterns is probably less true than what I was lead on to believe initially just based off the yards/attempt statistic that I compiled. It cleared up some misconceptions I had previously, but then again there really isn't a true way of knowing "routes wise" unless you would do a film study to watch for it because a QB can throw a short pass even when there are two other guys running 15 yards down field. Martz is known for his aggressive play calling style in how he attacks defenses with the limitless passing concepts he has created in the 10,000 pages in his playbook. It was the density and complexity of the playbook that kept the Bears from signing anybody other than Josh McCown when Cutler went down. That is why I suspected that they probably ran as many as any team in the league. His reputation indicated that this would be true, and I didn't see anything during games that would have lead me to believe otherwise.

It was yards/attempt. I overlooked it before when I was going through the box scores originally but then I came back to it. Check it out on one of the games I was looking at. Scroll down and you'll find it under the passing. http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/boxscor...&final=true Technically I wasn't wrong about anything I said. I was basing this off what you said about how we won those 5 games despite not throwing down field more often. His 2nd five games in comparison to his first 5 shows you that they were throwing it down field more, otherwise his yards/attempt would have remain unaffected. The other group of guys I put together randomly, not knowing what I was going to find out. Since I found this to be a pretty reliable statistic I wanted to see how everything turned out and as I mentioned in my previous post, most of those guys I had on their actually threw for more yards/attempt than Cutler did based on the first 10 games of the season which I found kind of surprising, to a degree. But I also think it's fair to say, Jays yards/attempt could have continued to go upward had he been able to play out the rest of the season against some very very bad teams. The only way I think you could accurately target the amount of routes being run is to do an actual film study of each and every game from every team in the NFL to compare it to the Bears. And unless there is a stat I don't know about, I don't think I'll be doing that.. As for your other stat, I think when you simply compare "Short" and "Deep" it doesn't represent what my argument was because when I say "down field" that includes the intermediate routes as well. I didn't restrict my argument to just throwing 40 yard bombs every play. That's not realistic. I think yards/attempt better conveys this.

Alshon might be one of those players that you think is going in the top 15 and then ends up slipping to the beginning of the 2nd round. Michael Floyd is #1 on my realistic wish list. Also, Kendall Wright could be the next Mike Wallace. He has all the tools to be a great receiver in this league despite his smallish stature. Two other guys I like from the WR position is Sanu and Dwight Jones.

Ross, Raye, or Emery all seem like good guys. I don't want the Licht guy. He's never been in a draft room.

I'm not ignoring anything. You think targets per game conveys which routes these guys run and how much time Cutler spends in the pocket, when it clearly doesn't. Yes I know that there are different routes that take longer to develop but Targets per game doesn't even come close to painting that picture. You can keep inferring that it does, and go ahead, but it's not conducive to the argument. And don't even begin to tell me I don't look up stats. Don't even start with that crap. See, when I use statistics to support my opinion, they actually mean something and actually have merit and purpose to the argument. Generally speaking, your statistics are usually ones that serve different purposes than what you are using them for. Although I will give you credit, atleast you are trying now. What blew up in my face? You haven't presented anything that I haven't been able to debunk with logical reasoning. But then you always have a way of twisting different meanings of things to portray them the way you want them to be instead of just accepting that you have nothing else to say. Yeah. Since I do that. Right? Give me a break. If there is one person on this board that throws out more blanket statements, without backing any of it up, that person would be you. Here's a list that I compiled based on the yards/attempt from the 5 game winning streak, and then I compared it to the first 5 games of the season when the line was by far the worst in the league. Then I compared his yards/attempt with Caleb Haine's and Josh McCown's to show how much Jay Cutler affected the ability for us to run an offense. Also, I took 3 of the quarterbacks from the top 3 offenses in the NFL and compared their first 10 games of the season to Cutlers. In a way I actually was a bit surprised by how far ahead GB was over anyone else but then when you look at how efficient they were , it really puts it in perspective. You can't say that I'm cherry picking stats. Jay Cutler: 1st 5 games 5.88 yards/attempt 5 game winning streak 6.96 yard/attempt Cutler 10 games- 6.42 yards/attempt Last 6 games with Haine/Mcown- 3.65 yards/attempt **I had to lol at this.. how pathetic** If it weren't for the 8.6 yards/attempt McCown had in the GB game it would have been even worse! It shows you how Martz really had to dial it down once Jay went down. I'm glad I was able to stumble upon this statistic because it help clears up alot of misconceptions. While I was right about us throwing the ball down field more often post-Martz interogation it turns out that the Bears aren't as high as I anticipated in terms of throwing it downfield in comparison to other teams. But again, it's also possible that things would have averaged out better if Cutler would have finished out the season against some really terrible teams. Those first 5 games shows you how poorly that offense was run and once Martz got his shit together and ran a slightly more traditional offense, we started to take off a little bit more and the line was getting better. I'm curious to see how much better we would have been if Cutler had gotten to play the last 6 games of the season. Top 3 NFL offenses Drew Brees: 10 games- 7.28 yards/attempt Aaron Rodgers: 10 games- 8.57 yards/attempt Tom Brady: 10 games- 7.7 yards/attempt Randoms Joe Flacco: 10 games- 6.14 yards/attempt Matt Hasselbeck 10 games- 6.6 yards/attempt Alex Smith 10 games- 6.42 yards/attempt Matt Stafford 10 games- 6.74 yards/attempt Phillip Rivers 10 games- 7.14 yards/attempt Tony Romo 10 games- 7.47 yards/attempt

Yeah his hands are incredibly inconsistent but his talent is undeniable. He'd certainly help stretch the field and Cutler likes his TE's. IMO I'd use Finley as sort of a secondary option in free agency if guys like Nicks or Bowe fall through.

That would be hilarious. Who would want to come here then?