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How does that make you soft? Weak? Yes. His style of play suggests that he's anything but soft. He's all over the field, hitting quarterbacks, forcing fumbles, making plays.. He'll play nickel and return kicks, and if I had to make a bet, I would bet on him being really good at both.

Again.. If he can get past the drug issues (which is a major if) I have no reason to believe he won't be an extremely successful player at the NFL level. His return skills will allow him to make an instant impact to whichever team takes a chance on him. I don't see him as a soft player at all.

I am expecting 3/4 of us will be upset by the end of Saturday. All I'm asking is for Emery not to freak up the 1st round pick this year. Just don't be stupid with it. I want an impact player that can start right away. No more Shea McClellin's.

Another tweet from Rap. God I hope either Minnesota jumps ahead of us to take him or Phil Emery is doing on hell of a job at creating a smokescreen.

I'm actually not a fan of either of our safeties, so I could see why they'd be listed as questionable. That said, I'm also sick and tired of drafting a safety every year, so unless we're getting Kenny Vacarro or some bonafide stud, like Mark Barron was last year, then it doesn't make sense. I don't want anymore Brandon Hardin's in the 3rd round.

^^ I saw that and my first thought was: "I hope Minnesota jumps ahead of us to take him."

I think he just might be. I might be crazy in thinking that, but everytime I saw this kid play at LSU he was making stuff happen. He has a knack for making big plays. I really believe if he can stay away from his drug problem, he'll be a star.

Damn, I see Jon Gruden has Tyrann Mathieu and Tavon Austin as the two best defensive/offensive players in this draft. My thoughts exactly.

I liked it better when it was just a two day event. Waking up Saturday mornings and watching the draft all day was the best.

One guy that I kind of hope the Bears take a chance on is Marcus Lattimore. Great kid. I'm rooting like heck for him to succeed. He deserves it after what he's been through.

Seems like Taylor is a prototypical cover 2 corner. Someone who's physical and athletic enough to retreat and react. This would be a very surprising pick to me if we take him at 20, and not in a trade down situation.

It seems like every year, right before the draft, is when teams start sending out smokescreens to either boost the value of a player or diminish it. When I see somebody's stock change pretty dramatically for no apparent reason, a couple of nights before the draft, I have to pause. It'd be great if Ogletree fell to the 2nd round where we could snatch him up, but it would shock the hell out of me.

Ogletree's stock falling right before the draft?? I smell smokescreens.

Did the Bears have a private workout with Shea McClellin before they drafted him? I can't recall. I'm wondering if this is a smokescreen as well.

Didn't see this posted anywhere. Thoughts?

These guys aren't signing up to be chemical engineers, they are here to play football. You don't have to be a smart person to be good at playing football. "A 2009 study by Brian D. Lyons, Brian J. Hoffman, and John W. Michel found that Wonderlic scores failed to positively and significantly predict future NFL performance for any position." That is a snippet from Wikipedia, but the fact of the matter is you really don't even need the studies to know that it's true. I'm clear on what the test is suppose to cover. I'm still not sure about how any of that relates to what you do on the field.

Not to get too off track here but I read a tweet from Chris Mortenson about the Bills locking in on drafting Ryan Nassib at #8. He's the one quarterback that I'd be okay with the Bears taking a chance on. He's got a cannon of an arm.

I can see the change in vascularity. Veins sticking out a little bit more. Definitely added some tattoos over the offseason as well. Maybe a minor difference in arms size. Glad to see him take his training seriously. Hope it continues.

Kind of hard to tell from this pic, but this is from minicamp.

I don't find value as it relates to football performance. Unless you can find actual studies that have been proven to suggest that it does then I'd be more open to accepting that belief. As I mentioned above, there is just so many inconsistencies.

That'll work for me. Kromer was the OL coach for that team as well, was he not?

That's great to hear! Hope Jeffery can actually put that weight back on in muscle now. I'd like to see him come into camp a little more muscular so he can have his way with defensive backs this year.

Those are much better indicators though because it actually relates to football. I agree with your last part. I have my concerns as well about his size, not so much height wise, but weight wise. I'm encouraged by the fact that he looks like he's put time in the weight room, so he's not a toothpick like Desean Jackson. That should help quite a bit. He's also proven to be quite durable at the collegiate level by playing in every game. As far as how much the system benefited him? It surely helped, but his explosiveness and raw speed are two things that will definitely translate to the next level. Nobody was more explosive than Tavon Austin. Some things you just can't teach a player, and he's a guy who just makes plays. He will need time, like any young WR, to adjust to the NFL game, but one thing for sure that I think will translate right away is his ability to return kicks. Even if he's not a productive offensive player in year 1 or 2, he is going to be a major factor on special teams, which is another reason why I find him so intriguing.

The fact that there have been other cases of players scoring low and performing well and players scoring well and performing terrible means that it is not necessarily a factor in anything performance related. You don't know Vince Young's low test score had anything to do with his failures as a quarterback. You basically just proved my point in your last line there about Gabbert. Too much inconsistency to be able to prove anything, which is why I, personally, don't consider it a factor. Interviewing somebody and timed test taking are two completely different things. Interviewing is a more productive way of getting to know somebody. Get them on the board and have them draw up plays in front of you to better demonstrate how much they can tell you about their role in the offense. Thanks for the help on learning what the word "may" means, but it wasn't necessary. Personally, I'd rather talk to somebody face to face and get a feel for them that way as opposed to jumping to conclusions about a man's potential inability to learn a playbook based off of a test that has never been proven to demonstrate the things you and others have speculated they may have. If you want to put stock into those test scores, more power to you. "For anyone who remembers teammates having to tell Hester where to line up on plays, yes, it is a factor" ^^ That is what you said. You used Hester as part of your argument to insinuate meaning behind the Wonderlic Test, as if you were trying to attribute Austin's test score to make him out to be incompetent the way Hester is. I'm not having any luck finding out what Devin Hester's Wonderlic score was exactly so unless you were able to find it, I'm assuming you are just making a guess as to what the score was, and then also trying to make the connection between the score and a player's inability to learn an NFL playbook. Austin's improvements as a player and desire to get stronger in the weight room speak to his work ethic much more than that test ever will.

If somebody with a learning disability is able to comprehend well enough to learn an NFL offense, especially one as complex as San Francisco's, I think Tavon Austin will be just fine. Again, there is no study out there that shows there is any correlation between your score on the wonderlic and how that translates to on-field performance.