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Awesome, thanks. you're right though, nothing new here. Gonna love seeing a fast paced, "fun" offense. April 25th needs to come already so we can get more of an idea what this team will look like!

I'm fully aware which is why I would like to see the article. B4E, thanks for a lil more info. Ya, really nothing new there. Any way you can copy and past the whole thing here as I'm sure I'm not the only one interested

Yup, this is very true....If he's about the money, they may end up driving up his price though. If he wants to take success over money then Tennessee won't be the place to go.

I'd love to see the Insider Offseason Playbook that was posted today if anyone can help....Not sure if those articles can be copy and pasted but that'd be pretty sweet. I like one of the comments that summed the article up and I'd like to read more on what was said about it. It sounds like something I was talking about earlier.

Not that it's set it stone but according to rotoworld Davis is "Expected" to be resigned by the Skins. They also said the Titans are gonna put in a "Strong" offer on Cook, and a source said "We are not losing him". Couple that with Bennett more than likely playing with his brother in Tampa and that really puts a damper on the FA TE market. Dustin Keller wouldn't be bad but he isn't exactly the Y TE we're looking for. He can be put there but I view him as more of a strictly in-line TE.

Lastly...this is correct, kinda silly that a negative rating, no matter how miniscule (and it was miniscule), though.

Who's first year was in Tice's 4th year...When they gave up 35 sacks, a number at (09), near(12 with 38 sacks), or above (11 w/ 23).....Look I already said I was wrong for calling him horrible but from what I can tell he's not "great". I just think it's silly to "doubt" that he won't grow under a guy who's been touted to get the best out of his players. But this is getting retarded, I'm done...I'm not gonna argue about personal opinion over the next 50 days.... I'm done talking about Webb until some new news comes out about him....My thoughts are out there and it's obvious neither of our opinions are gonna change so there's no point in continuing.

But his pass protection was slightly above average if we're using PFF..... And that's what he gets bashed at the most. Yup it can be said for every other player in the league, and in the right situation is true. That line doesn't really help your argument.

Hopefully, there are still a lot of teams ahead of us that need help on the OL. Cooper or somehow Warmack would be incredible. There are still mocks that came out after the Albert tag that have Joeckel or Fisher @ #1.

Ok, I see that post but look what it was in response too. Twig said I think Webb is gonna be really really good and I responded with what you said. So you're taking that out of context.

I take that as you saying I called him good, and I'm sure thats not the only time you said something like that. How about you quote that post so I can see the context. It was probably me saying he CAN be good which is exactly what I've been saying this whole time. He was average last year with the potential to above average/good next year.

Rotoworld is thinking more towards 7-8 for Cook for what it's worth. Bennett has already said if he's not resigned by the Giants he'd like to play with his bro who's expected to be resigned by the Bucs who have a need at TE...Not really set in stone but it's a clear fit. I think Fred Davis is probably more in the 5-6 area. As far as the money goes, right now we really don't know before Phil does some work. If Collins is indeed brought back then right now we're pretty much at $0. If they release Hester, Spaeth, Davis, and big Toe we're at ~8. Then there's some restructuring that can be done that can get us a much higher number.....If they're talking about Long then we could have enough for Levitre.

I'm specifically talking about the putting words in my mouth as the shit that is getting highly annoying to me....I don't know how many times I have to say I think he was average with the ability to be above average/good. I've never once called him good or amazing like you and twig are saying. THAT is whats annoying to me. Like AZ pointed out, you're looking to far into it when I have clearly said I believe he was average.

Ya, I went a little overboard there in calling him/the line horrible, I'll admit that, But, and here comes the diminishing part I'm so good at, doing a little more research, look at the line he inherited. The whole left side (Center included) was already entering their 4th year together and the 3rd year of the same RT. So it's not like he had to really teach these guys up or anything. After Randal McDaniel, one of the greatest of all time, left his lines proceeded to give up 35 and 45 sacks....Some Bears like numbers. Continuity is a word you hear a lot when it comes to the OL and his lines really already had that. But once again, I went overboard, and I mean that...I'm human

Fixed your mess up in bold. In a perfect world we will have signed Levitre for a little more than what these guys will make and draft one of the killer Es in the 1st (Eifert) or 2nd (Ertz/Escobar). Many scouts have noted that Escobars 40 doesn't tell the story of his game speed, his cone and shuttle drills we're top 3 in both so that tells you a little bit more about his speed. I'd love to have Cook, Davis, or Bennett but if I had to chose between those guys and Levitre I'd go Levitre all day. I like Rodriguez as more of an H-Back (I assume that's similar to the U/F TE?)...I do remember really liking what I saw out of him blocking out of the backfield.

Yes, please to because this shit is getting old...i never said he was good last year and when you and twig say the shit you do it gets highly annoying. i litterally have to point out in evetyone of my posts that I still think he was an average player yet you 2 insist on blowing it out of proportion. I love to argue as you can tell but when it's the same shit over and over it gets highly annoying. I use PFF to make comparisons to players you guys view as good, that's all...He was literally one good grade away from average, a better game plan against guys like Matthews and Smith give him that average grade and probably a notch above average. You simply can not defend Clay Matthews 1v1 PERIOD. If you look at it that way, sure, it goes both ways. He has improved though so that tells me he can indeed learn so I don't think all is lost and with the way Kromer is talked about he sounds like a solid teacher who can probably get across to Webb. The WCO alone is gonna help the OL, even Jason just agreed to that. Adding a LG will make him better, another thing Jason has agreed with.

I've said quite a few times that I think he's average with the potential to be above average/good next year....Quite putting words like good or amazing in my mouth. Once again you're all looking to far into my words. Did you read the actual exert or did you just wanna be a smart ass cause thats sooooo cool.

What are your thoughts on this exert on Midwayillustrated.com ...Granted Idk much about Brett Solesky but he seems to know his Bears (Does a Bears website, magazine, and radio show) Here's a guy who says he looked at the film and still saw the improvement that I am talking about. I honestly have taken too many hits to the head to remember exactly how Webb performed and don't have the games recorded but I do seem to remember not hearing his name that much or yelling at the screen that much this past year and the only stats on the OL presented to me on the interwebs back that up.

Te'o in the first and anything but a OG in the 2nd.

So what your saying is if the Bears do all those things the number will lower? Brees had .07 more seconds time to throw, if Jay had .07 sec to throw he'd have had the 9th most time to throw. There are no such stats. No, saying they're comparable doesn't mean it's a fact. I'm saying there's comparables there. It may just be one or 2 stats but they're there. Snaps per pressures was 20v21, I think that's a pretty telling figure for offensive lineman. Plus the penalty numbers are 6v7. Biggs brought it up as well, and there are other articles out there making the comparison....Who outside of Chicago would make that comparison?

It's a valid question and I don't know the answer but it's hard to a say a better LG won't improve your LT. I'm not saying it's the only attribute that will make Webb better, there are many other reasons that I highlighted as to why I think his play will be elevated. All I know is it's what the Saints have done the last 5 years and they have mad it work. With Kromer coming over from the Saints it's hard to imagine they won't put emphasis on the guard spots over the Tackle positions.

Yes, and that was my answer to it.

That was my response to Brians question. Their 2 guards are ranked 3rd and 6th in the NFL in average salaries for Guards...While their tackles are a 7th round pick and a guy who has been one of the worst LTs as far as pass protection in the league the past 2 years. Bushrods 2011 year was comparable to Webbs 2012 year yet instead of spending money on a LT they spent 7M on Ben Grubbs. I said 1 billion times that Albert is better right now. I just pointed out that the article that started this thread was noting that Albert had 96 pressures over a 3 year period like it was a good thing and that fact that if Webb golds steady around the 29 pressures he gave up this year he would have the 96 number beat.....It's more about the development of the 2 players than it is who they are...I said a number of times that I'll take 2012 Albert over 2012 Webb. I've never once said he'll be great or amazing, you're reading to far into it, I believe the words I've used countless times is above average, and maybe even good....And you can certainly win with above average.

There's no need for that snarky bait.

Some team will pay for his potential. I'd say 5M is a fair, maybe low, guess.