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I agree with everything said here. It's why i put the "Mike Tice hard on for Webb" comment in quotations and followed it with the word theory.

I don't see many cut candidates past the guys that have already been mentioned.

I don't see why that wouldn't happen if someone comes in and out plays him. If they draft one in the 5th or 6th and he outplays Webb then the job is his. If Carimi, Brown, Cory Brandon, a UDFA, or 2nd or 3rd tier FA outplay him then it's their job. Like I said previous the whole "Mike Tice hard on for Webb" theory is out the window now. If Trestman/Kromer decide Webb is the guy then he is the guy and that's that.

I don't see why that wouldn't happen if someone comes in and out plays him. Hell if they draft one in the 6th and he outplays Webb then the job is his. Like I said previously the whole "Mike Tice hard on for Webb" theory is out the window now. If Trestman/Kromer decide Webb is the guy then he is the guy that earned it.

Thanks. So now we're around 9M. If the 5M for the draft needs to be taken into account then we're at 4M. Cutting Davis, Spaeth, and Hester brings us back up to ~11M...Before Melton...Sound about right?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,2609562.story So cap guys...Would that whole 1.33M count against the cap?

Well we got a whole new coaching staff now so the so called favoritism is now out the window. I'm sure Kromer will give Gabe a look at LT if he thinks Gabe can play there. We can't use the whole Tice scouted Webb argument any more so lets just sit back and let it all play out...Arguing about this is getting real old.

Well lets just say you're right.... then look at this way, if he thinks he's gonna get replaced at RT, a lesser position, by a rookie/FA then do you think he thinks that Gabe should be "given the LT job to lose" like you purposed?

Yes, those all COULD be factors but the only one that really makes sense would be injury history. It's hard to imagine he would say Carimi loses his job first if he didn't think Webb was the better player....But thats just my opinion. The guys covering the combine just said Lane Johnson might go top 5. Says he's got the highest ceiling of anyone in the draft....The hoping Johnson is there at 20 ship has probably sailed.

I ran a 5.22 @ 320 pounds(Outdoors)...if I cut down to 240 I could probably run a 4.8.....not that any of this matters at all.

You make it sound like he's old, which makes me feel old because we share the same birthday lol. He's still only 3 years older than Eifert and some others in the draft..... I really don't think he's all that over-rated when you consider how many weapons the Packers have. If he comes to the Bears he right away becomes our 2nd biggest threat. I do agree though that we should just draft a TE in the 2nd. But only because of the price.

He's still a big time threat though. If the moneys there somehow I won't be mad if he's brought in. If I had to choose between Welker and Finley, I'd take Finley all day.

http://nfltraderumors.co/packers-torn-on-w...d-be-an-option/ Nothing more than pure speculation based on the fact that we need a TE but he could be a great grab if they can free up some $$...He's been a bit of a prick in the Bears/Pack rivalry but that all goes away if he's on this side of feud. Jermichael* .....My middle name is Michael and I still spell that shit wrong smh

4th round?? get outta here. Late 2nd/early 3rd is still a stretch IMO...His stock dropped more but not all the way to the 4th.

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on Webb vs. Carimi @ LT. We both seem to agree that adding a LG is a bigger priority than adding a LT as we both think the LT is already on our roster. I think with a better LG next to them either one can end up being an above average LT. I can't imagine Gabe won't get a look at LT. The whole Tice favoritism to Webb thing is out the window now, if he's the LT next year it means he earned it. Didn't he pretty much admit who he thought was better when he said Carimi would lose his job before Webb??? I too sent him a question about Webb which he didn't answer. It's whatever.

It's the same "argument" we can have for you wanting Carimi at LT. Gabe, just like Webb is gonna be nothing more than average at LT next to the dogshit we've thrown out there at LG. You throw a stud LG next to either of them and they become above average. The scouting reports on Gabe coming out of Wisconsin were that he's gonna struggle in space, which is exactly the problem Webb has. The 3 games he got destroyed in he gave up 5 sacks...which means he gave up 2 the other 13...I know sacks aren't the way to measure a players success but it's at least a starting point. And a lot of those 5 sacks don't happen if you have a competent LG next to him. Jeff Dickerson seems to agree that Webb>Carimi.

Ha idk man I'm not a pack fan I'm just passing along something interesting I saw.

If they have the money for Albert and Melton sure. Look guys, I'm not saying I'll be mad if he's replaced or moved to RT I'm just saying chances are we won't have the money to get a guy who will be better than Webb...And I'm ok with that because he's showed improvements over the years despite having dogshit playing next to him. Grabbing Cooper or Levitre (OGs are cheaper than LTs) elevates his play to an above average LT and you can get by with that.

Which according to Pack fans who I assume watched games is no one. We're one of, if not THE only team who tried to contain Matthews 1v1 and that's just not the right plan of a attack against that guy....at all. Jonathon Cooper is freakin good, mayock has him as a top 4 talent in the draft. You're not gonna upgrade the whole line but "a dominant guard can lift an entire offensive line". The Saints put an emphasis on interior line man. Thats what we need to do.

He was a slightly below average LT...You add in a stud LG and right away he's an above average LT. Much like Bushrod was made into an above average LT by Ben Grubbs, and Carl Nicks the year before.... But I guess since you're calling for Carimi to be LT and not a high priced FA then my argument of paying for a LG before a LT is moot point as well. Yea, pfffft to the 75%...you forgot the plus sign dude....75+%...he had 3 bad games against Matthews and Aldon Smith....Going 1v1....So whatever % 13 of 16 is.

He played in an offense that hardly passed the ball. Go look up his scouting reports. He's just like Webb, he struggles in space.

I assume you mean run and pass blocking....Why would you want a guy who was a "jekyll" in the pass game to be the guy protecting Cutlers blindside??? That makes no sense at all.

Says the guy who wants Gabe Carimi to be the LT... I'm sorry but if you put Webb next to a good LG (Cooper will do) then he will be an above average LT and it's really as simple as that. I'm gonna love when Webb is named the LT next year and we hear you have a heart attack on the board....Then stfu throughout the year when Webb plays well like he did in 75+% of his games last year. It's not all about PFF either, you see reports popping up everywhere about how Webb improved or something about him not needing to be replaced. Dan Pompei or Biggs just recently said Webb had the inside track on LT....If he didn't improve why would he have the inside track?

Where can I find said tape? I'd love to rewatch the whole year and see just how much he "sucks"....The only tape I've seen was him get dominated 1v1 against Smith and Matthews. Which is an idiot plan of attack. You don't think he'd do better with a legit LG next to him? He's already at a hair below average with just some dreadful LGs next to him. I believe he becomes an above average LT with even a guy like Cooper next to him. Like Pompei said in his most recent article "a dominant guard can lift an entire offensive line, if not a standard-size SUV."

None of them will be any good here if left on an island like Webb has been. You put a good LG next to Webb and he'll be just as good as these guys...Even just drafting Cooper and playing him at LG would elevate the play of Webb and the rest of the line big time.