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Turned the game on reallly late, literally 10-15 min ago but my goodness, Larry Warford looks like a monster. If he stays as projected in the 2nd I'd love if the Bears take em.

What are these players we need besides depth? Depending on how they view Paea, a starting or backup NT is needed. In my draft I addressed that. If Urlachers gone a LB, which I addressed. Depending on how they view guys like Geno Hayes, Patrick Trahan, Blake Castanzo, JT Thomas etc etc they may need to add another solid LB that can play all 4 positions.

If it frees up money I'm game. Can never have enough money.

I'm basing that statement on the fact that he holds the record for most reps in the combine....That tells me he's pretty damn strong. One player being strong doesn't make the whole defense great against the run... perhaps it's because Melton is not that great against the run (negative run grade on PFF). Actually, and I never knew this, listen to the guys on the NFL Network at the end of that video. They even talk about him being a 3-4 nose tackle.

While googling "What are the defensive responsibilities of players in a 3-4" look what I came across... http://www.scardraft.com/Parcells34.html The guy who made it is listed as "Founder of ScarDraft. Writer for Drafttek. Featured Columnist at Bleacher Report. NFL Capologist, Schemeologist and Draftologist. Atlanta native and fan." So while those sites are nothing important he does have a some knowledge on it... While I think he needs to get a bit of a wider body I tend to agree with the guy. Paea is one of, if not the strongest player in the NFL. Griz, you can still play some cover 2 in a 3-4. AZ, moving to a 3-4 has Shea on the field at all times and adds another young impact player to the defense which is the main purpose of making the switch. Our D is legit for now but adding SMC on an every down basis makes it younger and better for the future...If they can snag Ogletree in the 1st and move SMC in to a position where he plays every down you have 2 really solid building blocks for the next 10 years. Unless SMC can play LB in a 4-3 which I'm still interested in hearing some opinions on that.

Gotta figure that has something to do with him being forced to play out of position. He's not suited to play the 5 technique (outside DT/DE)..If Jenkins never came along he'd be getting a lot more attention.

If they were able to snag a guy like Kwame Geathers in the 4th or 5th they'd have just that. I think his draft stock is gonna rise considerably though and he might not be there in the 4th. Per rotoworld If he really does make it to the 4th or 5th some is gonna have themselves a steal

regardless of what we do scheme wise i still like my draft. Geathers in the 5th would be a steal.

That's something I've been meaning to ask...I hear it all the time that SMC is a OLB in a 3-4...What about in a 4-3? What about at MLB in a 4-3?? After watching Shea last season I just can't see him as a DE. I guess he could put on some weight and strength and turn out to be serviceable but I think his speed projects more at OLB. I just hate to see a 1st round pick get wasted because he's playing out of position.

Meh, you got anything to back that up? I'm not saying you're wrong or anything I'm just curious. A NT seems like the easiest job on the field...just be huge lol. These guys usually dont show up in the stat sheets that much, case and point being Isaac Sopoaga, 27 tackles, 1 sack for the soon to be champion 9ers.

Aka a monster NT and 4 LBs. If 54 is gone we already need to address one of those needs regardless of what scheme they use and it also brings SMC into the picture where I believe he'd be better utilized. Finding a huge NT in the late rounds shouldn't be a problem either.

San Fran and Baltimore run a 3-4 as well and look where they are this year. Also the Pack comment was more based on what they do with Clay Matthews and how I want the Bears to utilize SMC the same way. I think if we keep him at DE I'll have to live through years of Bears fan calling him a bust.

SMC absolutely profiles better at OLB in a 3-4, he's undersized at DE, he has great speed, and that's where he most played at Boise State. Getting back to the LT talk, I hope they address it via FA because outside of Joeckel and Fisher chances are all you're going to get out of a LT is average for the first couple years IMO. In which case why not just continue with Webb who still isn't making any kind of money and you can use your 1st rounder else where to improve the team. According to PFF, the source Emery quotes frequently, had Webb as our best overall OL..Therefore I see him starting somewhere on the line.

Welp, I wouldn't be shocked if it happened sir. Emery already said he uses pro football focus and PFF gave him an average grade. He did that while being in a horrible scheme, it all depends on how the guy from the Saints views him.

Well I'm ok with Briggs-Ogletree-Roach-SMC if he doesn't wanna move...the thought of Ogletree on the edge excited me but Briggs isn't exactly slow..Tree runs a 4.63 while Briggs runs a 4.75 (at one point anyway).

As I stated, for this to work a FA LT must be brought in or they're going to have enough faith in Webb working in a new system. Everyone is gonna hate the last part and will bash it but the fact remains that he ranked as an average LT in a horrible scheme that left him on an island 9 times outta 10.

I added my 3-4 draft so lets talk about my last post over there and move this back into a free agent OT discussion.... With Staley and the 9ers making the Super Bowl, Bushrod is getting the nod for the pro bowl...Might drive up his price a bit and make signing him and Melton difficult. I still think it's possible, esp. if they restructure some contracts.

I loves me a 3-4 defense, I hate the Packers but seeing their 3-4 2 times a year makes me feel like I'm missing out almost. Seeing Clay Matthews wild girly lookin self running wild is something I would love to see our undersized "DE" 1st round draft pick of last year SMC (Until he does something I refuse to learn how to spell his name) do to squeeze more value out of him. With the money they have, they need to bring Melton and Roach back and a LT must be brought in (unless they feel comfortable with Webb in a new scheme) to make this work. With that said they would have to make the change to a 3-4 through the draft by grabbing another LB and a monster DT.....IF Emery and Tucker wanna make the change here is my mock draft. (based off draftteks mock) 1st Round- Alec Ogletree LB Georgia- If he's there at 20 there's no question who I'm going with here. Even if they can't get that monster nose tackle and don't move to a 3-4 you're still filling a need here by replacing Urlacher. If they do make the switch to a 3-4 I would love..love, love, love, to see Briggs moved inside and Ogletree on the outside. Could you imagine a blitz where you got him, SMC, Pep, and Melton all coming at you??? Holy guacamole, thats a sexy thought for Bear fans and a scary thought for everyone else. 2nd Round- Travis Frederick OG Wisconsin- I'll stick with Draftteks pick here and go with Frederick, from what I've read he should be able to step in at either guard position right away. The line would then be Webb-Carimi-Garza-Frederick-FA or switch Webb and Carimi. 4th Round- Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee- CBS has him ranked as the 8th best OT in the draft and a 2nd round pick, if he somehow drops to the 4th round like in draftteks mock that would be incredible. He offers up another option if Webb or Carimi fail. 5th Round- Kwame Geathers NT Georgia- In the other thread I said I think his stock rises when the combine hits but right now drafttek has him being there in the 5th for the Bears to gobble up. Massive man, sure to be a solid NT in a 3-4 where he made All-SEC Freshman Team before the studlier John Jenkins came along and stole his NT spot. Geathers moved to the outside of the line where he played well, but at 6'6" 355 pounds he is better suited to play inside and I think could play right away if they make the switch to a 3-4. 6th Round- Jordan Rodgers QB Vandy- Not only just to piss off his brother Aaron (which would be awesome) but under the grooming of Trestman he could be a good QB. He's got the speed and toughness to develop into the type of pistol QB Trestman might want. He'd be a few years away if he ever amounted to anything but hey, he's a 6th round pick. How fun would it be to see little brother Rodgers beat Aaron and the Pack.....

In the situation I proposed earlier 54 would be back, but if he's not brought back and the 3-4 is something they really wanna do now I think its possible to make that happen. Ogletree if he's there at 20 would be fantastic, and if we got him I wonder if Briggs would want to move inside?? I just love the idea of having SMC & Trees speed on the outside in a 3-4 with Briggs and Roach on the inside....And then at nosetackle, I think if Paea can pack on some more pounds and become a wider load he would work but a sure thing bigger presence would be needed. There's a guy on Georgia who had his job taken by the before mentioned John Jenkins, 6'5" 355lb Kwame Geathers who I think is gonna give a team great value. There's no shame in losing your job to a talent like John Jenkins and because of it he's now projected as a 5th rounder. I can almost guarantee his stock rises but if they can get him in the 4th I'd be ecstatic. Ogletree-Briggs-Roach-SMC behind Pep-Geathers-Melton would be soooo sexy. I may make a "3-4 draft" later

Meh, there might be an LB that steps up in combine but right now Ogletree is the only LB that excites me that MIGHT be there at 20....Te'o does nothing for me, and if you find a trade partner you can trade back to get Minter which is the same thing you can do with a TE.

While we're talking 3-4 let me throw another wrench into the system....Lets say they get their LT in FA, 54 is brought back, and you've got this massive 320 pound Australian rugby player(I play rugby so I had to point that out lol) Jesse Williams, or an even more massive 359 pound John Jenkins staring at them. With Emery used to having a 3-4 team and the new DC running some 3-4 do you go with one of the big monsters and make the change to a 3-4? I still believe Melton can play the 5 technique and move outside with his speed, and I think Pep can work on the other side. You then got a Briggs-Urlacher-Roach-SMC LB core.

Well luckily we don't need any of those 3. OLB or TE is the way to go IMO.

Oh I know, I'm not accusing you of this. Ah yes Fluker, forgot about him. Saying this can go either way, either "There are 5 top 10 talent guys" or "There won't be shit there at 20 so we better grab a LT in FA"....Is it worth the risk not grabbing a LT in FA?

Really now? Who's the 5th? Cooper? Jones?....While ones man opinion on a draft that no one can correctly guess should be taken with a grain of salt that should be another reason why we take a LT in FA if one is available.

There is a chance they will all be resigned...In which case I'd rather just give Webb another shot in system that doesn't leave him on an island 9 times outta 10. I just don't have faith in the guys past Fisher an Joeckel to contribute right away. Seeing what the line will do different will be interesting, gotta expect some kind of change in the scheme.....I wonder what Marc did in Canada to get the same guys that gave up 68 sacks a year before to only give up 22.