ASHKUM BEAR Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Honestly, right now I really don't know who I want. Rex was my #1 and then Kubiak was #1, and the rest have been meh to me. Fox to me, after looking at how his teams have ranked is hit or miss, and more often than not he's missed (to an extent). In 9 years in Carolina he had a winning record just 3 times. While we're talking about coaches without a certain player, Fox is just 81-79 without Manning as his QB. Again I will say that I'm cool with it, I'm just not gonna call it the bomb or anything. I honestly have zero clue who is tops on my list. I'd be ok with it, but depends on who his coordinators are. Otherwise, bring me a spark plug Bowles, Quinn, Austin, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Honestly, right now I really don't know who I want. Rex was my #1 and then Kubiak was #1, and the rest have been meh to me. Fox to me, after looking at how his teams have ranked is hit or miss, and more often than not he's missed (to an extent). In 9 years in Carolina he had a winning record just 3 times. While we're talking about coaches without a certain player, Fox is just 81-79 without Manning as his QB. Again I will say that I'm cool with it, I'm just not gonna call it the bomb or anything. I honestly have zero clue who is tops on my list. It may help the Bears get Brandon Marshall like you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Winning a playoff game with Tebow at QB is his best qualification. Losing two divisional playoff games with Peyton Manning, and again this year with all the big FA they signed on defense is his worst qualification. I'm on the fence with this guy but at least we know he won't let the locker room be run like we had with Trestman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Looks like we are getting an interview: http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/...o-bears-vacancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Winning a playoff game with Tebow at QB is his best qualification. Losing two divisional playoff games with Peyton Manning, and again this year with all the big FA they signed on defense is his worst qualification. I'm on the fence with this guy but at least we know he won't let the locker room be run like we had with Trestman. The team is in and has been in a rebuilding phase. I know they were trying to compete the last couple years, but the roster turn around since Angelo has been huge. It's going to need to continue the next few years as they build the defense, replace aging players on the offense, and so on. That's why I think Fox is a great fit as coach. His experience should bring stability to the locker room. Plus, I think he will be able to fill out a great staff to help develop the players that are brought in. At the least, he's coach that can get this team prep this team into a contender. Then the Bears can go find the coach to take them to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 This would be a fantastic hire. I don't blame him for the fact that Peyton choked. I give him credit for winning at two different stops and making it to the superbowl with 2 different teams and being able to adjust extremely well to his personel. Clearly Manning helped him a lot in Denver but you also can't ignore the fact that they did a lot with Tim Tebow at QB too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 This would be a fantastic hire. I don't blame him for the fact that Peyton choked. I give him credit for winning at two different stops and making it to the superbowl with 2 different teams and being able to adjust extremely well to his personel. Clearly Manning helped him a lot in Denver but you also can't ignore the fact that they did a lot with Tim Tebow at QB too. Manning's made a career out of choking in the big games. That's been a knock on him for a long time back to his years in Indy. Not that he's the sole reason the got blown out in last years super bowl, or the sole reason the Broncos lost this past weekend. It doesn't help when your star QB underperforms when it matters most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Correct. It took a matchup against Grossman for him to win...and he almost didn't. Manning's made a career out of choking in the big games. That's been a knock on him for a long time back to his years in Indy. Not that he's the sole reason the got blown out in last years super bowl, or the sole reason the Broncos lost this past weekend. It doesn't help when your star QB underperforms when it matters most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Jay Glazer is extremely confident Fox will be next head coach of the Bears. Sees no reason why it won't happen. Note, this is purely his speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Correct. It took a matchup against Grossman for him to win...and he almost didn't. He didn't win the game. Our inability to hold onto the football as well as our inability to stop the run is what won the game for the Colts. Peyton Manning did nothing to help the cause and won a sham Superbowl MVP award that should have went to their RB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'm still going to say that Austin is my favorite potential candidate. Fox may just be what this team needs, so he is my 1b right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I can't get over how great of a candidate John Fox is. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good and the perfect candidate fell in our lap. While he hasn't won a superbowl, he was a field goal away from winning the superbowl with Jake freakin Delhomme. He won a division with Tim Tebow (and a playoff game for that part). Dude is a fantastic candidate and fit (outside of hiring someone like Cowher) and in my humble opinion is the best coach without a superbowl in the modern era (along with Schottenheimer and Levy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I am wondering if John Fox is what BLEW the McCaskey's away in the Pace interview. Pace may have had some inside information on Fox not being happy in Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I am wondering if John Fox is what BLEW the McCaskey's away in the Pace interview. Pace may have had some inside information on Fox not being happy in Denver. I would hope that isn't the case. I want the right GM being hired and than let him bring in whomever he thinks is the right coach. Don't hire the GM purely because he has an in on a particular coach. The GM is going to be critical in this entire thing and I hope Pace is still in this organization 25 years from now (and he'll have hired multiple successful coaches during his tenure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 My point exactly... He didn't win the game. Our inability to hold onto the football as well as our inability to stop the run is what won the game for the Colts. Peyton Manning did nothing to help the cause and won a sham Superbowl MVP award that should have went to their RB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 With so much up in the air as far as rebuild or win now, locker room problems, which players do you keep which do you get rid of I like the idea of an experienced HC. I wonder why he is getting out of Denver???? Smells kind of weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I wouldn't go that far DBDB, like I said, in 10 years before getting the greatest regular season QB ever he had 3 winning seasons. For Comparison, Lovie had 4 seasons above .500, 1 super bowl trip, and one NFC title game loss in his 9 years here. He just might be the best thing out there but I wouldn't expect too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also his winning percentage in Carolina was .507...Lovie (Whom I have never backed on here) had a .563. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also his winning percentage in Carolina was .507...Lovie (Whom I have never backed on here) had a .563. You have to remember, I largely liked Lovie. I never disagreed that it was time for a new voice but I liked him. Only thing I can really fault him for is getting too much say in roster decisions. Had it not been for that, I think we'd have won a superbowl. Lovie can coach but he certainly can't scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also his winning percentage in Carolina was .507...Lovie (Whom I have never backed on here) had a .563. Fox's winning percentage took a huge hit from one year in Carolina (his last year)...where Delhomme imploded due to injuries (major surgeries, etc). He also had another year where they won 7 games despite starting 4 different QB's (again due to injuries...a list that included Delhomme, Testaverde, David Carr, and Matt Moore). In his 1st year he had Rodney Peete. Bottom line, I can't say that his teams really underachieved and in most instances I'd say they overachieved vs. the general talent perception (with exception to the last two years and one year you expected the superbowl and this year had similar expectations but Manning obviously struggled and hard to put that entirely on the coach..especially given his track record for struggling in big games with other top coaches too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he isn't a good HC, I'm just saying you guys are making it sound like he's great....IMO he's good, not great...Great, or the potential for greatness in some of these coordinators, might not be available though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Per Dan Bernstein and Terry Boers. We each have a different source in bears, and told them all in on Fox. Looks like the Bears are going after John Fox hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Per Dan Bernstein and Terry Boers. We each have a different source in bears, and told them all in on Fox. Looks like the Bears are going after John Fox hard That escalated quick quickly!! Brick you stabbed a man.......lol name that movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 That escalated quick quickly!! Brick you stabbed a man.......lol name that movie! Isn't that "Anchorman"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Isn't that "Anchorman"? bingo!!!! nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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