GakMan23 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Vic Fangio has decided to join John Fox's staff in Chicago. Skins were very interested. Fangio made his decision today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/557566511163129856 Jason La CanforaVerified account @JasonLaCanfora Vic Fangio has decided to join John Fox's staff in Chicago. Skins were very interested. Fangio made his decision today Reply Retweet Favorite More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 That's fantastic. Let's get some talent on D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Smart man! I like him even more now! Vic Fangio has decided to join John Fox's staff in Chicago. Skins were very interested. Fangio made his decision today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Excellent hire. Interesting, looks like we are headed to a 3-4 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 YEEESSSSSS!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 @JasonLaCanfora: I would expect Ed Donatell to be joining Fangio in Chicago as DB coach. They are close and did great work together in San Francisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hopefully we get San Fran Fangio and not pre San Fran Fangio. Should be a fun offseason moving to a 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Things are coming together nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 How do Bears current personnel looks for a 3-4 conversion? We don't really have a big nose tackle, though I suppose I could see a bulked up Ego Ferguson or Paea in that role. I can see Houston and Sutton working as DEs. Not sure of Jared Allen's future with the team. I think Bostic deserves a change at an ILB position and Christian Jones and Khaseem Greene deserve consideration (though I'm not sure where they fit). This would be the last chance for Shea McClellin to show something, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Then I guess you would convert Willie Young to OLB - he's way too light to play 3-4 DE, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 How do Bears current personnel looks for a 3-4 conversion? We don't really have a big nose tackle, though I suppose I could see a bulked up Ego Ferguson or Paea in that role. I can see Houston and Sutton working as DEs. Not sure of Jared Allen's future with the team. I think Bostic deserves a change at an ILB position and Christian Jones and Khaseem Greene deserve consideration (though I'm not sure where they fit). This would be the last chance for Shea McClellin to show something, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Then I guess you would convert Willie Young to OLB - he's way too light to play 3-4 DE, right? I think we are covered at NT. Sounds like Ego and Ratliff both fit their. Not sure what our ends look like. Would presume Jared Allen isn't a fit in a 3-4. Shea is a fit (well at least the guy the Bears thought they drafted) but that ship has probably sailed. I'm not enough of a 3-4 expert to know exactly. We are already extremely thin at LB so maybe our LB's play better in a 3-4 or we just now need to make linebacker and even bigger need. Presume Houston and Young are actually decent fits in a 3-4 on an end (well when they are healthy). Jones and Bostic are probably our two starters. No idea what they do with Shea and by all accounts Greene is horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I think we are covered at NT. Sounds like Ego and Ratliff both fit their. Not sure what our ends look like. Would presume Jared Allen isn't a fit in a 3-4. Shea is a fit (well at least the guy the Bears thought they drafted) but that ship has probably sailed. I'm not enough of a 3-4 expert to know exactly. We are already extremely thin at LB so maybe our LB's play better in a 3-4 or we just now need to make linebacker and even bigger need. Presume Houston and Young are actually decent fits in a 3-4 on an end (well when they are healthy). Jones and Bostic are probably our two starters. No idea what they do with Shea and by all accounts Greene is horrible. I think Young is more of a fit at OLB vs DE. Id have zero problem if they went with Young-Jones-Bostic-SMC/Washington/Bass in year one just to see how they hold up in this transition year. As for the front 3, Houston is certainly a fit, and yes Ego/Rat are stout enough to hold up at nose. Last year Vic's NT was 318 pounds, and his backup was 303. I think we should be looking at adding another DE to pair with Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I think Young is more of a fit at OLB vs DE. Id have zero problem if they went with Young-Jones-Bostic-SMC/Washington/Bass in year one just to see how they hold up in this transition year. As for the front 3, Houston is certainly a fit, and yes Ego/Rat are stout enough to hold up at nose. Last year Vic's NT was 318 pounds, and his backup was 303. I think we should be looking at adding another DE to pair with Houston. I have a big problem with that. We have to massively upgrade the defensive side of the football and should focus our off-season their. We have added a defensive head coach and one of the top DC's in the league and we need to rebuild that side of the football. Yes, we can't totally ignore the offense but my theory is Bears are going to stick with Jay and the talent / existing weapons. If I am focusing on a position on offense, it is the area of speed wideout (I also hope that Wilson can make steps forward) and the oline (clearly if the right QB is there you go that direction too). Defense needs loads of help and I think we have the right guys to help fix it but we certainly need players and lots of them, specifically in the secondary and at LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I think I heard somewhere this weekend (one radio show or another) that Fangio isn't married to the 3-4 and could run whatever he thought was the best fit for our talent. So while we're all assuming it'll be a 3-4, there's no guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I think Young is more of a fit at OLB vs DE. Id have zero problem if they went with Young-Jones-Bostic-SMC/Washington/Bass in year one just to see how they hold up in this transition year. As for the front 3, Houston is certainly a fit, and yes Ego/Rat are stout enough to hold up at nose. Last year Vic's NT was 318 pounds, and his backup was 303. I think we should be looking at adding another DE to pair with Houston. [/quote Getting more and more excited with every hire!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I hope we are seeing something like this 3 years from now...well we know next year it probably won't happen but hey, we can dream right, haha. "During his first three seasons with the 49ers, they were the only team to rank in the top-five in these nine categories: points allowed (16.1 points per game, first), rush defense (89.1 yards per game, first), rushing average (3.7 yards per carry, first), first downs allowed (835, first), opposing quarterback rating (76.0 rating, second), yards allowed (306.5 yards per game, third), 20-plus yard plays allowed (147, third), takeaways (93, fifth) and third-down defense (34.1 percent, fifth)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I have a big problem with that. We have to massively upgrade the defensive side of the football and should focus our off-season their. We have added a defensive head coach and one of the top DC's in the league and we need to rebuild that side of the football. Yes, we can't totally ignore the offense but my theory is Bears are going to stick with Jay and the talent / existing weapons. If I am focusing on a position on offense, it is the area of speed wideout (I also hope that Wilson can make steps forward) and the oline (clearly if the right QB is there you go that direction too). Defense needs loads of help and I think we have the right guys to help fix it but we certainly need players and lots of them, specifically in the secondary and at LB. I'm not saying ignore the D, I'm just saying that I for one think that that LB group would look solid in a 3-4, so use your FA money and a few draft picks on a corner, safety or 2, and a DE. If the LB group doeant pan out then you know where to target early in year 2. I also am not against a complete rehaul of the LB group either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm not saying ignore the D, I'm just saying that I for one think that that LB group would look solid in a 3-4, so use your FA money and a few draft picks on a corner, safety or 2, and a DE. If the LB group doeant pan out then you know where to target early in year 2. I also am not against a complete rehaul of the LB group either. You can't contend with crappy LB play in a 3-4 and with that roster at LB, you are in for what I'd call the crappiest LB play. That would be a gigantic recipe for disaster. We have the 7th pick in the draft and I expect that we'll use it on a defensive anchor (and if not that, than a stud LT). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm not saying ignore the D, I'm just saying that I for one think that that LB group would look solid in a 3-4, so use your FA money and a few draft picks on a corner, safety or 2, and a DE. If the LB group doeant pan out then you know where to target early in year 2. I also am not against a complete rehaul of the LB group either. I do think that if you're making this transition, you need to add at least one 3-4 LB veteran starter who can help with the transition and line up the defense (none of our LBs has even played 3-4 as far as I know). Maybe someone like David Harris from the Jets? You probably want to add one pass-rush specialist OLB in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 No matter how this turns out, the Chicago Bears just stole the hottest FA DC from an owner that never gets outbid. That alone is freaking huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 No matter how this turns out, the Chicago Bears just stole the hottest FA DC from an owner that never gets outbid. That alone is freaking huge. Yeah, and that he chose us over them which is a huge positive. From a HC and DC perspective, pretty hard to top Fox and Fangio across the league. From Trestman and Tucker (LMAO) to Fox and Fangio. Wow, what a difference a year makes - and GB still sucks. @Ky1eLong We got Fangio???? Niiiiiice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 You contend with crappy LB play in a 3-4 and with that roster at LB, you are in for what I'd call the crappiest LB play. That would be a gigantic recipe for disaster. We have the 7th pick in the draft and I expect that we'll use it on a defensive anchor (and if not that, than a stud LT). Agree to disagree on the LB group. I happen to think Bostic, as your coverage ILB, and Jones as your run stuffing ILB is a solid duo. Young almost has to have a spot at OLB. Then the other side is the only position I really view as questionable in the SMC, Washington, Bass competition. When I look at these LBs and DEs I have long seen a 3-4. Again Im not saying thats what I want to happen, just saying it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 This is a year old, but a great read on Fangio. Talks a lot about his diligence in the film room, etc. http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/17/vic-fangio-s...ve-coordinator/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I think Young is more of a fit at OLB vs DE. Id have zero problem if they went with Young-Jones-Bostic-SMC/Washington/Bass in year one just to see how they hold up in this transition year. I'd actually like that. I think that LB group would do well, and their athleticism would help overcome learning hurdles along the way. Agree to disagree on the LB group. I happen to think Bostic, as your coverage ILB, and Jones as your run stuffing ILB is a solid duo. Young almost has to have a spot at OLB. Then the other side is the only position I really view as questionable in the SMC, Washington, Bass competition. When I look at these LBs and DEs I have long seen a 3-4. Again Im not saying thats what I want to happen, just saying it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world. Agreed with this as well. I think Bostic and Jones would be incredible in a 3-4 beside one another. And I think Young would prosper with a little head start. Finally, what the hell else can we do with SMC? He is either going to succeed as a 3-4 OLB, or fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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