Stinger226 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just speculating here, but I wonder if the Bears take a look at Wilfork. Rolle tweeted out a day or 2 ago he'd like to play with him. Bears have obviously been lookin for a big boy. He's old, but still effective, much like Rolle himself. Wilfork has talked about staying in NE and since him being cut was over money, I suspect he goes back on a low money deal. Some people actually dont care about the money first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I just don't see the urgency for Pot Roast. The Bears have several DLinemen who they have to figure out. The new system means we don't know exactly how well these guys can play specific positions. Some have history in the 3-4, but not all. Allen, Houston, Washington, Young, Ferguson, Ratliff, Sutton You're telling me we can't field a front of 3 DL with that group? Even if Houston is moved to OLB? DE: Allen/Washington NT: Ratliff/Sutton DE: Young/Ferguson May the best man win. The other rotates in. That would be fine with me, especially if it shows Sutton/Ferguson/Washington to be players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I just don't see the urgency for Pot Roast. The Bears have several DLinemen who they have to figure out. The new system means we don't know exactly how well these guys can play specific positions. Some have history in the 3-4, but not all. Allen, Houston, Washington, Young, Ferguson, Ratliff, Sutton You're telling me we can't field a front of 3 DL with that group? Even if Houston is moved to OLB? DE: Allen/Washington NT: Ratliff/Sutton DE: Young/Ferguson May the best man win. The other rotates in. That would be fine with me, especially if it shows Sutton/Ferguson/Washington to be players. Allen and Young aren't DEs in a 3-4. Nor is Washington, though he seems like the type of athlete who could perhaps put on weight and MAYBE play the position. 3-4 DEs are basically the 3 technique DTs we always talked about. I can't see Allen or Young lined up inside the tackles and being very successful at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kyle @Ky1eLong 19m19 minutes ago HEY @KSTiLLS COME TO CHICAGO Depending on what it takes picks wise, I'd love me some Kenny Stills. One of the best deep threats in all of football. Turning just 23 next month so he's not much older than whatever mid round draft pick I expect them to draft. If nola is looking for something lower than a 3rd. sign me up. (Yes I know I've lobbied for Wilson to be the #3, but loves me some Kenny Stills) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kyle @Ky1eLong 19m19 minutes ago HEY @KSTiLLS COME TO CHICAGO Depending on what it takes picks wise, I'd love me some Kenny Stills. One of the best deep threats in all of football. Turning just 23 next month so he's not much older than whatever mid round draft pick I expect them to draft. If nola is looking for something lower than a 3rd. sign me up. (Yes I know I've lobbied for Wilson to be the #3, but loves me some Kenny Stills) That would be great, maybe the Pace connection pays us some dues. I was reading where Fox said they would be in a 2-4-5 60% of the time, that means if we grab Knighton or draft Shelton they are going to be 2 down players. No way thats happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 That would be great, maybe the Pace connection pays us some dues. I was reading where Fox said they would be in a 2-4-5 60% of the time, that means if we grab Knighton or draft Shelton they are going to be 2 down players. No way thats happening. Then why did they inquire about Knighton, Williams, and visit Shelton twice? Those guys can still play on a 2 man front. In fact it might make sense to have them out there occupying blockers with less guys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Then why did they inquire about Knighton, Williams, and visit Shelton twice? Those guys can still play on a 2 man front. In fact it might make sense to have them out there occupying blockers with less guys out there. Im just repeating things that I read. We will see what we actually do and then the proof will be in the pudding. Colts released Trent Richardson???????????????????maybe he actually doesnst suck...kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Im just repeating things that I read. We will see what we actually do and then the proof will be in the pudding. Colts released Trent Richardson???????????????????maybe he actually doesnst suck...kidding Just read we have 8 mil to spend after the rookie allegation, no more big contracts in the future unless we cut Forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just read we have 8 mil to spend after the rookie allegation, no more big contracts in the future unless we cut Forte. Or restructure Jay again.... Hopefully we get Parker at FS and then take a chill until draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just read we have 8 mil to spend after the rookie allegation, no more big contracts in the future unless we cut Forte. Or we have room for one more big deal. How many times in the past have we been out of cap room and then signed a guy for 3-5 million annually? It seems like it happens every year. Yet every year, we are in damn good shape in terms of the cap. That being said, we need depth. Sign guys like Peanut for 1.5 million a pop. We are woefully thin at every position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Allen and Young aren't DEs in a 3-4. Nor is Washington, though he seems like the type of athlete who could perhaps put on weight and MAYBE play the position. 3-4 DEs are basically the 3 technique DTs we always talked about. I can't see Allen or Young lined up inside the tackles and being very successful at all. 3 technique DTs are known more for their ability to burst into the gap than they are for taking on OL 1 on 1. I can see Allen and Young doing quite well in that role, especially someone like Allen who has a complete pass rushing skill set. Hell, he's only 15-20 pounds away from Henry Melton who was considered great for a few years in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 3 technique DTs are known more for their ability to burst into the gap than they are for taking on OL 1 on 1. I can see Allen and Young doing quite well in that role, especially someone like Allen who has a complete pass rushing skill set. Hell, he's only 15-20 pounds away from Henry Melton who was considered great for a few years in Chicago. Ehhh, guys like Allen and especially Young are guys who do much better operating in space utilizing his length. Lined up inside the tackle I think he'd be dreadful. Allen is 6'6" compared to Melton who is 6'3", so the 15-20 pound difference is just not the same. I'm sure he's gotten stronger since way back when, but Jared Allen only did 13 reps at the combine. Even way back when guys weren't as big and strong as they are now, those 13 reps were bested by everyone but 2 TEs and some corners. Allen doesn't win with power, and I think you have to win with power when you play inside. There's a reason why Fox has called an OLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Or we have room for one more big deal. How many times in the past have we been out of cap room and then signed a guy for 3-5 million annually? It seems like it happens every year. Yet every year, we are in damn good shape in terms of the cap. That being said, we need depth. Sign guys like Peanut for 1.5 million a pop. We are woefully thin at every position. I agree we need a couple more CBs, I think we sign one on a low prove it deal. I still think we find one more S, hopefully its Parker,but there are still some names out there. Not out of prospects yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Ehhh, guys like Allen and especially Young are guys who do much better operating in space utilizing his length. Lined up inside the tackle I think he'd be dreadful. Allen is 6'6" compared to Melton who is 6'3", so the 15-20 pound difference is just not the same. I'm sure he's gotten stronger since way back when, but Jared Allen only did 13 reps at the combine. Even way back when guys weren't as big and strong as they are now, those 13 reps were bested by everyone but 2 TEs and some corners. Allen doesn't win with power, and I think you have to win with power when you play inside. There's a reason why Fox has called an OLB. I think hes considered an OLB because he would be similar to Freeney and Peppers in that regard who both had to convert to OLB. He may not be as athletic but if used properly he might be able to pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I agree we need a couple more CBs, I think we sign one on a low prove it deal. I still think we find one more S, hopefully its Parker,but there are still some names out there. Not out of prospects yet. Ok reported we have 10 mil left : name the 2 or 3 contracts left you would sign. Ron Parker=3 mil per year Red Bryant-3 mil per year Perish Cox-4 mill per year Also Alex Carrington/DT on a vet min(wont count against cap) Also Moreno/RB on a vet min Also Denarius Moore/WR on a vet min Also Rob Housler/TE on a vet min YOUR TURN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 It's hard for me to get too excited for signing Parker. I think he'd be a good addition but his resume is very thin for $3mil/yr. Rob Housler would be a good addition at TE. He's done some good things out here in AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12474789...-drew-rosenhaus who's the mystery team for Greg Hardy? Could he play in as a 3-4 DE and if so could the Bears be a team discretely negotiation or is Drew Rosenhaus playing games to run the price up? Hardy was on the commissioner's exempt list all year and charges were dropped so I don't know how Goodell could suspend him next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12474789...-drew-rosenhaus who's the mystery team for Greg Hardy? Could he play in as a 3-4 DE and if so could the Bears be a team discretely negotiation or is Drew Rosenhaus playing games to run the price up? Hardy was on the commissioner's exempt list all year and charges were dropped so I don't know how Goodell could suspend him next season? No thanks. We just gave away one crazy in Brandon Marshall. Why would we bring in another crazy? As per the witnesses police report, "Hardy picked me up over his head and threw me on the couch covered with shot-guns/assault rifles. Hardy bragged that they were loaded." (he later threw her down the stairs at his apartment to let her leave.). I don't mind players getting arrested, but this arrest indicates a lifestyle similar to Aaron Hernandez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 No thanks. We just gave away one crazy in Brandon Marshall. Why would we bring in another crazy? As per the witnesses police report, "Hardy picked me up over his head and threw me on the couch covered with shot-guns/assault rifles. Hardy bragged that they were loaded." (he later threw her down the stairs at his apartment to let her leave.). I don't mind players getting arrested, but this arrest indicates a lifestyle similar to Aaron Hernandez. Rams signed Kenny Britt for 14 mil for two years. What is wrong with GMs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 No thanks. We just gave away one crazy in Brandon Marshall. Why would we bring in another crazy? As per the witnesses police report, "Hardy picked me up over his head and threw me on the couch covered with shot-guns/assault rifles. Hardy bragged that they were loaded." (he later threw her down the stairs at his apartment to let her leave.). I don't mind players getting arrested, but this arrest indicates a lifestyle similar to Aaron Hernandez. didn't know the details of the alleged case against Hardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Rams signed Kenny Britt for 14 mil for two years. What is wrong with GMs? Yeah what the hell, $7mil a yr for Britt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah what the hell, $7mil a yr for Britt? I'd take him for 7 all day over 5 mill a year for Royal. Jets really look like they got a steal for Marshall considering his cap numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'd take him for 7 all day over 5 mill a year for Royal. Jets really look like they got a steal for Marshall considering his cap numbers. Apparently the brass doesnt agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Apparently the brass doesnt agree. I don't really agree with the brass. But it's hard to deny that given the current numbers for WR's, Marshall is a steal at cap number vs. production alone ignoring the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I don't really agree with the brass. But it's hard to deny that given the current numbers for WR's, Marshall is a steal at cap number vs. production alone ignoring the rest. From a point of view of production BM was one of the top 7 Wrs in the league, but everything is not about on the field. 3 teams dumped him, in all those cases he has been productive. Why do teams keep getting rid of him? He creates chaos, on a successful team , the atmosphere is better, you overcome it for awhile, but when your losers, he creates chaos. The most important thing to remember, when Pace and Fox were interviewing players, not one supported keeping him around. In the media, some talked him up, but behind closed doors they choose not to keep him. The proof, all of this is true, is they gave him away. You simply cant have a bad atmosphere in a locker room trying to instill a winning attitude from a new coach. Was Eddie Royal over paid, of course he was. Look at the history of FA the first wave always turns out on the bad side of team money, but its fixing mistakes from drafting and the reality is there lack valve of money to production. He was worth 3 mil per year and he's getting 5. He fills a need, a competent slot WR, a good attitude , he makes this a better team for it but at a cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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