Chitownhustla Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's a move that I don't like, but hope it turns out so I avoided the thread. IMHO, it seems like a whole lot of money for a part time player that sounds more like a pass rushing specialist and the move could be a big mistake. It also may be a genius signing, if he is able to carry over his effectiveness to a full time role with a lot less talent surrounding him. Talent that leaves Baltimore is rarely as effective on their new teams. It almost feels like an Emery outsmarting the NFL move. I'm on fence too. Like that he is 26 and can play multiple positions. Not liking that he has never been a full time player and read that he may have had issues with both knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 16 MIL for the first two years, and if he dont pan out, gone with rest of contract. He fills the Smith role on Fangios 49er D. Excellent All-22 film breakdown of McPhee's sacks last year. Gives good insight into his skills and how we can expect Fangio to use him all over the defensive front. http://chi.scout.com/story/1525345-all-22-...ell-mcphee?s=25 I'd like to quote both of these, and give you an All-22 on Aldon Smith. http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/11/21/725...49ers-pass-rush As you see here, Stinger is spot on with saying he fills the Smith role. Aldon was used with hand in the dirt and in a 2 point stance just like McPhee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Dude was stuck behind Suggs and Dumervil. Hard to fault him for that. Lol, you wanted more comments on the thread. I'm just leery on the move. It's something I can't get excited for or get mad about until I see him on the field. There are a lot of other ways I'd preferred to have seen the money used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Lol, you wanted more comments on the thread. I'm just leery on the move. It's something I can't get excited for or get mad about until I see him on the field. There are a lot of other ways I'd preferred to have seen the money used. Lol, didn't want you to not say what ya felt, I was just disputing it. Paul Kruger played the McPhee role before McPhee (Both bigger OLBs who also played with their hands in the dirt), and he racked up 11 sacks last year in Cleveland. Ironically both players got 5 year 40M contracts. Jameel McClain had 116 tackles for the Giant last year. Arthur Jones was considered a really good run stuffer for the Colts. They gave up 4.6 yards per carry and 12 rushing touchdowns in 7 games without him in the lineup to just 3.7 yards per carry and two rushing touchdowns in 9 games with him in the lineup. James Ihedigbo was a pro bowl alternate. Corey Graham was the 8th ranked CB by PFF, and was the Bills team captain. I'm actually having a hard time finding a player who HASN'T had success outside of Baltimore..... Bart Scott to an extent. Didn't put up big numbers but was still a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's a move that I don't like, but hope it turns out so I avoided the thread. IMHO, it seems like a whole lot of money for a part time player that sounds more like a pass rushing specialist and the move could be a big mistake. It also may be a genius signing, if he is able to carry over his effectiveness to a full time role with a lot less talent surrounding him. Talent that leaves Baltimore is rarely as effective on their new teams. It almost feels like an Emery outsmarting the NFL move. The reason, the perception is they dont succeed when leaving Ravens is they get paid big money. They are projecting a player on the rise that fits our scheme. There is risk in that like all FA signing usually are. Optimistic it will turn out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Still trying to figure out what former Raven didn't produce outside of Baltimore? Sure Paul Kruger only had 4.5 sacks his first year in Cleveland but he also had 51 pressures which is pretty damn good. I know some here don't buy into the whole "pressure is production" line of thinking but it's true. Those pressures by Kruger turned into sacks the following year. Just like how Willie Young had a lot of pressures in 2013 and those turned into a 10 sack season in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Lol, didn't want you to not say what ya felt, I was just disputing it. Paul Kruger played the McPhee role before McPhee (Both bigger OLBs who also played with their hands in the dirt), and he racked up 11 sacks last year in Cleveland. Ironically both players got 5 year 40M contracts. Jameel McClain had 116 tackles for the Giant last year. Arthur Jones was considered a really good run stuffer for the Colts. They gave up 4.6 yards per carry and 12 rushing touchdowns in 7 games without him in the lineup to just 3.7 yards per carry and two rushing touchdowns in 9 games with him in the lineup. James Ihedigbo was a pro bowl alternate. Corey Graham was the 8th ranked CB by PFF, and was the Bills team captain. I'm actually having a hard time finding a player who HASN'T had success outside of Baltimore..... Bart Scott to an extent. Didn't put up big numbers but was still a good player. Good point on Kruger, I had the same questions about him when he signed with the Browns. Seeing that as a full time starter he still produced makes me feel better about this signing. I hope this guy is as good as his rankings were last year if not better. Playing every down is a whole lot different then being the relief guy. It could help him get into a groove better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Chicago Bears @ChicagoBears 2m2 minutes ago #Bears have agreed to 5-year deal with former Ravens LB Pernell McPhee. Jeff Dickerson @ESPNChiBears 3m3 minutes ago #Bears make it official - 5 year deal for Pernell McPhee. Rich Campbell @Rich_Campbell 3m3 minutes ago Bears announce their 5-year deal with OLB Pernell McPhee. They'll host a press conference at 2 p.m. Tons to get at with GM Pace & HC Fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Love this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 We need more of this but it's a good start: http://chi.scout.com/story/1526237-violenc...ear-mcphee?s=25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I could care less about the "former Ravens who underperformed" tag. This guy is legit. He came from a top notch defense and produced. If you watch his highlights, he continually wins 1v1 battles. He also played all over for the Ravens. Other 3-4 teams would be lauded for picking him up, but when the Bears do, it is "risky". I see him energizing other guys like Young, Houston, Bostic, Ferguson, and Jones in the front 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I guess, there's an "out clause" that could make this just a 1 year 8.75M deal if McPhee doesn't work out.....Which I'm sure he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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