AZ54 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I was fully prepared for the complete overhaul of our roster after we gave away Brandon Marshall for next to nothing. I expected to see Cutler traded for little to no value as well as Forte. So far all we have done is a quick signing of McPhee to play OLB and some interest in signing veteran safeties. We've shown interest in a couple other players like C Wisniewski and ILB Mason Foster. Other than that we added Eddie Royal to the WR corps. This is not a complete overhaul of the roster. Reading this article on Royal had some interesting tidbits in particular this quote about Cutler: http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football...rting-ryan-pace ‘‘He liked the direction that the organization was going, and that meant a lot coming from the quarterback,’’ Royal said. ‘‘I needed to hear that from him. It was a lot of good things. I’m just anxious to get going and have a good year.’’ While the GM and coaches have been indifferent toward Cutler, that gives me the indication that Cutler has been comfortable in his role within the new organization for some time. Pace and Fox are clearly working a plan but it's not the plan I was expecting. It feels like more reshaping a roster versus a complete overhaul. I don't see desperation in FA either. If they can't get the players for their price they move on to the next option. For now it seems the decision to keep Cutler occurred much earlier in the process than we were led to believe. When discussing Pace, Royal said: ‘‘And the GM, Ryan Pace, is just amazing. His vision for the team and everything he has envisioned for the organization was exactly what I thought [about] a direction a team needed to be going in. It felt right.’’ I usually dismiss such hyperbole from FA who just got a huge contract guarantee but it seems there is a shorter term plan for success not the 3+ year plan I was expecting and Cutler is part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ya, I think trading Marshall was 100% just about creating a better atmosphere in the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ya, I think trading Marshall was 100% just about creating a better atmosphere in the locker room. Yep. If production were the only criteria in determining value, Marshall would have been worth a whole lot more. The rest of the league knew this. I hope it's addition by subtraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I was fully prepared for the complete overhaul of our roster after we gave away Brandon Marshall for next to nothing. I expected to see Cutler traded for little to no value as well as Forte. So far all we have done is a quick signing of McPhee to play OLB and some interest in signing veteran safeties. We've shown interest in a couple other players like C Wisniewski and ILB Mason Foster. Other than that we added Eddie Royal to the WR corps. This is not a complete overhaul of the roster. Reading this article on Royal had some interesting tidbits in particular this quote about Cutler: http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football...rting-ryan-pace ‘‘He liked the direction that the organization was going, and that meant a lot coming from the quarterback,’’ Royal said. ‘‘I needed to hear that from him. It was a lot of good things. I’m just anxious to get going and have a good year.’’ While the GM and coaches have been indifferent toward Cutler, that gives me the indication that Cutler has been comfortable in his role within the new organization for some time. Pace and Fox are clearly working a plan but it's not the plan I was expecting. It feels like more reshaping a roster versus a complete overhaul. I don't see desperation in FA either. If they can't get the players for their price they move on to the next option. For now it seems the decision to keep Cutler occurred much earlier in the process than we were led to believe. When discussing Pace, Royal said: ‘‘And the GM, Ryan Pace, is just amazing. His vision for the team and everything he has envisioned for the organization was exactly what I thought [about] a direction a team needed to be going in. It felt right.’’ I usually dismiss such hyperbole from FA who just got a huge contract guarantee but it seems there is a shorter term plan for success not the 3+ year plan I was expecting and Cutler is part of that. I think that with any player they want they have an assigned valve. They talked to Parker but were definitely not in the realm of what he got. Foster is probably waiting around to see if he can get a better offer, have not seen any other spots he is visiting, so that may be soon. The high and mid priced FAs, we have already signed. It now is getting players at our price, which we will have some more, but may not be the names we expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Yep. If production were the only criteria in determining value, Marshall would have been worth a whole lot more. The rest of the league knew this. I hope it's addition by subtraction. With all we have stated about BM, his age and having injury aspects last year also come into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 With all we have stated about BM, his age and having injury aspects last year also come into play. I think it had more to do with his off field baggage and locker room distractions. Im not happy to see him go but hope this turns out to be the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Since I had no idea what to expect I'm not surprised by the pace that's been set. I think they've found some helpful FA's thus far and it follows from what we were told early on, you draft the BPA and you make that possible through free agency. The decision to retain Cutler given that their hands were really tied and other options, either through the draft or free agency weren't very good. It wouldn't surprise me if we picked a QB in the 3rd round or later, however. What we don't know, though, is how many of our current players are actually capable of playing in the NFL if they're given solid coaching. I think many last year had high expectations going into the season given what had transpired the year before and how we seemed to shore up the D. Is it possible some of those players can actually do the job for us so we aren't in a mad scramble for serviceable players? If so, we're closer to turning this around than anyone here would've believed after that terrible season last year. Again, our schedule this season is brutal so expecting playoffs in the first season under the new staff is probably a bit much to ask. But I'm cautiously optimistic that this season isn't going to be horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Since I had no idea what to expect I'm not surprised by the pace that's been set. I think they've found some helpful FA's thus far and it follows from what we were told early on, you draft the BPA and you make that possible through free agency. The decision to retain Cutler given that their hands were really tied and other options, either through the draft or free agency weren't very good. It wouldn't surprise me if we picked a QB in the 3rd round or later, however. What we don't know, though, is how many of our current players are actually capable of playing in the NFL if they're given solid coaching. I think many last year had high expectations going into the season given what had transpired the year before and how we seemed to shore up the D. Is it possible some of those players can actually do the job for us so we aren't in a mad scramble for serviceable players? If so, we're closer to turning this around than anyone here would've believed after that terrible season last year. Again, our schedule this season is brutal so expecting playoffs in the first season under the new staff is probably a bit much to ask. But I'm cautiously optimistic that this season isn't going to be horrible. It's certainly possible. Navorro Bowman and Glenn Dorsey missed the whole year. Patrick Willis missed 10 games. Aldon Smith missed 9 games And yet Fangio still managed to coach a team missing 5 really good starters for all/most of the season to a top 5 D. You can kinda look at the Cowboys too. They had a historically bad defense in 2013, got a new DC in 2014 and ended up giving up 1000 less yards, despite losing Shawn Lee and Demarcus Ware. Or you could look at the opposite, and look at the Bears after Lovie left. Yes, a lot could be attributed to age and injuries, but pretty much the same unit went from pretty darn good in 2012 under Lovie, to really fuckin bad in 2013 with out him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 SIGN SOMEBODY ALREADY! (I'm only kind of kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Wish they would ink Foster already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Wish they would ink Foster already I'm with you on this one. I think it's very important to shore up the ILB position before the draft. I can't watch another season of Bostic over-running plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'm with you on this one. I think it's very important to shore up the ILB position before the draft. I can't watch another season of Bostic over-running plays. I wouldn't be shocked one bit if he still starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 SIGN SOMEBODY ALREADY! (I'm only kind of kidding) They listened.......Just signed guard Vlad Ducasse. Probably not even new thread worthy. He is a former 2R bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 They listened.......Just signed guard Vlad Ducasse. Probably not even new thread worthy. He is a former 2R bust. Maybe he is a better system fit on our team. Will definitely have to prove his worth. They sure are good at keeping things quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 They listened.......Just signed guard Vlad Ducasse. Probably not even new thread worthy. He is a former 2R bust. A former bust or a current bust? I had to look up who he was. Anyway I see this just as adding competition for the last roster spot, and at best someone who might replace Eben Britton or Ola on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 A former bust or a current bust? I had to look up who he was. Anyway I see this just as adding competition for the last roster spot, and at best someone who might replace Eben Britton or Ola on the roster. They are remaking the roster from both ends. He is an average vet with starter experience. He is not as good but the same type of signing as Slauson, remakes his career, or just competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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