DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 This is all over twitter but the initial report came from Jason Cole of the bleacher report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dawhizz Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2421423...-mob-art-vid-16 Of course, in typical BR fashion, the video doesn't quite say that. What Jason Cole says is, that there are "some in the Bears organization" who "wonder" if Mariota would be a good option for the Bears IF they can get the Titans to take Cutler in a trade. Which fits into the "no duh" category for me. There's nothing saying the Bears are trying to trade Cutler or that the Titans are interested at all. It's just the kind of thing someone says when they have absolutely no real evidence to back it up, but wants to get clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 So the option is Cutler and #7 pick or Mariota? I will take Cutler and #7. I don't even know if I would trade Cutler outright for Mariota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Did you guys see that no one bid on an autographed Cutler football at a benefit auction? This is how I feel every time I see an article trying to stir up more Jay Cutler talk on FB or Yahoo news etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Did you guys see that no one bid on an autographed Cutler football at a benefit auction? This is how I feel every time I see an article trying to stir up more Jay Cutler talk on FB or Yahoo news etc. Pretty funny that no one hears about the auction until after no one bids on his football. I would've for $100, especially with it going to charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Pretty funny that no one hears about the auction until after no one bids on his football. I would've for $100, especially with it going to charity. Someone did bid the reserve amount and got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Starting to believe in the Mariota connection to Chicago. When you look back at the timeline, the signs are there. There was a report last month with Mariota talking about the Bears being "very interested". Last week Ryan Pace said that he would not be afraid to take him if he fell to #7. And now this rumor. Up until recently, I always felt like the Bears might be trying to sell a smokescreen, and they still might be, but this is now the 3rd or 4th time I've seen his name being thrown around in Chicago. We'll see.. I don't think they will end up getting him, but I do believe they really like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Starting to believe in the Mariota connection to Chicago. When you look back at the timeline, the signs are there. There was a report last month with Mariota talking about the Bears being "very interested". Last week Ryan Pace said that he would not be afraid to take him if he fell to #7. And now this rumor. Up until recently, I always felt like the Bears might be trying to sell a smokescreen, and they still might be, but this is now the 3rd or 4th time I've seen his name being thrown around in Chicago. We'll see.. I don't think they will end up getting him, but I do believe they really like him. As quiet as they have been with all there signing do you really think any information is going to leak out if they actually want Mariota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'd trade Cutler for a Big Mac.. and I think I'd be making out on the deal. .. the guy is a turd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'd trade Cutler for a Big Mac.. and I think I'd be making out on the deal. .. the guy is a turd You need to learn to live with it, he aint going anywhere this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Up until recently, I always felt like the Bears might be trying to sell a smokescreen, and they still might be, but this is now the 3rd or 4th time I've seen his name being thrown around in Chicago. We'll see.. I don't think they will end up getting him, but I do believe they really like him. Their support of Cutler may be the smoke screen instead. I think that is highly unlikely though, I just can't see Cutler having the value of the 14th over all to move up. I'm sure Pace knows his market value, as their had to be some inquiries and offers. I can't see him turning down anything close to that value, yet alone gambling by turning down something that valuable in hopes of a trade with the Titans. If they were saying the Bears 7th over all, a first next year, and Cutler then I would believe it. I wish it was true, just not very likely. Edit: or a trade with Washington, not involving Cutler would be believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I simply cant buy into anything bleacher puts out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Their support of Cutler may be the smoke screen instead. If they were saying the Bears 7th over all, a first next year, and Cutler then I would believe it. I wish it was true, just not very likely. This might be the most sensible idea. There is a lot of like for Cutler in the Tenessee area. I'm not sure the option of this years 1st and next years with Cutler for #2 overall is enough though. With the money Cutler demands and Cutler being Cutler it can't be very inviting for Ken Whisenhunt. He's dangling by a thread as it is, bringing Cutler over would most certainly send him to the unemployment line next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Some Titans insider tweeted on the rumor and basically said the interest is legit. The Bears are still desperate to get rid of Cutler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have long said I think Cutler and Titans make way too much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have long said I think Cutler and Titans make way too much sense. I think the people pushing it are vastly overestimating that love people in Tennessee have for Cutler. If this was a former Tennessee QB, that would be one thing. But its not like Vanderbilt has a rabid following that would translate to the Titans, and I don't see many tweets from Tennessee fans who love the potential addition of Cutler. Most often, it's the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have not been pushing for Marcus but he clearly has nice skill-sets, etc. Projectability is hard to predict but by all accounts his make-up is off the charts and he's a hard worker. The question really is whether he can make the necessary tweaks and put in the time to excel at the NFL and if he is smart enough to play at the NFL level (deal with anticipation / look off safeties, etc). That is something that really no college QB has (or very rare that a college QB excels at it, especially in this day and age) so it is hard to gauge. Reason people are so comfortable with Winston is he's been in a system where he's been able to demonstrate some of those NFL skills for 2 years. If Bears like Marcus, I'm all for taking the cap pain and getting the #2 pick and losing Cutler and trying it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I think the people pushing it are vastly overestimating that love people in Tennessee have for Cutler. If this was a former Tennessee QB, that would be one thing. But its not like Vanderbilt has a rabid following that would translate to the Titans, and I don't see many tweets from Tennessee fans who love the potential addition of Cutler. Most often, it's the opposite. The Titans and Vanderbilt are both in Nashville (about 2.5 miles away from each other), so there is a pretty big following in that area for both teams. Not as big as Vandy baseball, but still popular. However, the consensus among fans is they don't want Cutler. Also, I am against moving up or trading for players when we lose picks. Look what Cutler turned into: 1st Round 2009 (18) - Could've been Alex Mack or Clay Matthews 1st Round 2010 (11) - Denver traded down to #13, picked up #113, traded down to #24, picked up 2x 3rd Rounders (Eric Decker, WR, #87), used #113 to move up to #22 (selected Demaryius Thomas). NE used #113 on Aaron Hernandez. NE traded #24 to Dallas (who selected Dez Bryant). NE moved to #27 and selected McCourty. 3rd Round 2009 (84) - Mike Wallace, WR So we could've had Clay Matthews, Dez Bryant, Aaron Hernandez, Eric Decker, and Mike Wallace and an extra 3rd Rounder. Those two years devoid of early picks is another reason why we have so few players on the team that were drafted by us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have not been pushing for Marcus but he clearly has nice skill-sets, etc. Projectability is hard to predict but by all accounts his make-up is off the charts and he's a hard worker. The question really is whether he can make the necessary tweaks and put in the time to excel at the NFL and if he is smart enough to play at the NFL level (deal with anticipation / look off safeties, etc). That is something that really no college QB has (or very rare that a college QB excels at it, especially in this day and age) so it is hard to gauge. Reason people are so comfortable with Winston is he's been in a system where he's been able to demonstrate some of those NFL skills for 2 years. If Bears like Marcus, I'm all for taking the cap pain and getting the #2 pick and losing Cutler and trying it out. Petty has the most question marks coming out of Baylor's offense, and Mariota has the second most. He rarely called plays, commanded a huddle, or went through progressions/pre-snap reads, etc. I think he has all the other intangibles you want in a QB, but I would not want him with the expectation that he has to play from Day 1. For us, if we were interested, the only way I would select him is if he fell to us at #7. That would mean Winston, Williams, Beasley, Fowler, White, and Cooper are off the board. We would have to choose between him, Shelton, Collins, Scherff, Waynes, or one of the other Edge Rushers. Then it at least warrants a discussion. My hope would be a team even more desperate for a QB (hello Cleveland) wants to move up and gives up more than the trade value chart to get him (ie, 12 and 43 for 7). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 The Titans and Vanderbilt are both in Nashville (about 2.5 miles away from each other), so there is a pretty big following in that area for both teams. Not as big as Vandy baseball, but still popular. However, the consensus among fans is they don't want Cutler. Also, I am against moving up or trading for players when we lose picks. Look what Cutler turned into: 1st Round 2009 (18) - Could've been Alex Mack or Clay Matthews 1st Round 2010 (11) - Denver traded down to #13, picked up #113, traded down to #24, picked up 2x 3rd Rounders (Eric Decker, WR, #87), used #113 to move up to #22 (selected Demaryius Thomas). NE used #113 on Aaron Hernandez. NE traded #24 to Dallas (who selected Dez Bryant). NE moved to #27 and selected McCourty. 3rd Round 2009 (84) - Mike Wallace, WR So we could've had Clay Matthews, Dez Bryant, Aaron Hernandez, Eric Decker, and Mike Wallace and an extra 3rd Rounder. Those two years devoid of early picks is another reason why we have so few players on the team that were drafted by us. I am pretty much always a believer in moving down and accumulating quality picks (e.g., as many round 1-3 picks as possible, preferably the 1st two rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I personally think trading up to get Mariotta is a huge mistake. I don't think his skills project to the NFL, we'd be giving up a better QB AND OUR FIRST and creating unnecessary dead cap space. I've been with Pace so far but I'll be against this move completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I personally think trading up to get Mariotta is a huge mistake. I don't think his skills project to the NFL, we'd be giving up a better QB AND OUR FIRST and creating unnecessary dead cap space. I've been with Pace so far but I'll be against this move completely. I agree in principle only. So many other things need addressed before we mortgage the future again with an unknown. If Cutler it's as bad this year as last, we'll be in good position to go all out next year. But, let's fix some of the other shit first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Next years QB draft class is much better. At least 4 first round prospects, we will end up with Christian Hackleberg from Penn St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 If it's just the pick swaps and Cutler, I'm all for Mariota. I wouldn't trade a 2nd rounder or a future 1st on top of it though, no way. Hell, it really wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if he sucked in year 1 and the Bears ended up right back here next year with a high pick. As long as it's not because he's 'Shea McClellin out of the league bad' and it's just your typical rookie QB struggles. Who knows, maybe he's actually really good and leads us into playoff contention right away. Cam Newton didn't call much of an offense either at Auburn and he had a fantastic rookie season. I think Mariota could possibly have similar impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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