jason Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 We all know the inherent flaws to this concept, but it's an interesting test nonetheless. I ran three what-if mocks (two of which are previous threads) through the process. Fanspeak draft where Leonard Williams falls 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, 3 = +4 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, 51 = -12, total -8 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, 103 = -32, total -40 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, 115 = -9, total -49 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, 99 = +43, total -6 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, 140 = +42, total +36 So we gain a 5th rounder. Talksbears attempt to agree mock 1(20)- MALCOLM BROWN, DT, 22 = -2 2(39)- DEVIN SMITH, WR, Ohio State, 47 = -8, total -10 2(52)- LAKEN TOMLINSON, OG, Duke, 48 = +4, total -6 3(71)-DAVID COBB, RB, Minnesota, 107 = -36, total -42 4(106)-KURTIS DRUMMOND, FS, Mich. St., 141 = -35, total - 77 5(142)-ZA'DARIUS SMITH, OLB, Kentucky, 102 = +40, total -37 6(182)-CODY FAJARDO, QB, Nevada, 239 = -57, total -94 So we lose a 4th rounder. My final mock, where Williams falls (I really think this will happen) 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, 3 = +4 (Starts at DE immediately. ) 2(39)- , WR, 32 = +7, total +11 (Feels like another Moss to me) 3(71)-HRONISS GRASU, C, 60 = +11, total +22 (Leader of the OL, great mobility, starts for a decade) 4(106)- , T, 115 = -9, total +13 (Monster. Locks down RT and lets Long stay inside for multiple pro-bowls, fits with the new run-first philosophy) 5(142)-JACOBY GLENN, CB, 169 = -27, total -14 (Great hands, good anticipation, great drive on the ball) 6(182)- , ILB, 195 = -17, total -31 (Tackling machine. Good gap discipline. Leader. Great motor.) So we lose a 5th rounder, and I couldn't care less. That would be an outstanding draft. I'd like a FS, but none really seem to fall where the Bears pick & I don't want to reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is how I scored it based on my value based scoring system: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, -120 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, -147 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, +69 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, +17.4 TOTAL: +501.4 (equivalent to gaining a 2nd rounder #40) Since the first round movement is worth much more, getting Williams at #7 would be like getting pick #26 (700 pts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is how I scored it based on my value based scoring system: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, -120 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, -147 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, +69 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, +17.4 TOTAL: +501.4 (equivalent to gaining a 2nd rounder #40) Since the first round movement is worth much more, getting Williams at #7 would be like getting pick #26 (700 pts). Ahhhh...you are doing the points, and not the position. I didn't even realize that after you replied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 For this one: 1(20)- MALCOLM BROWN, DT, -70 2(39)- DEVIN SMITH, WR, Ohio State, -80 2(52)- LAKEN TOMLINSON, OG, Duke, +40 3(71)-DAVID COBB, RB, Minnesota, -155 4(106)-KURTIS DRUMMOND, FS, Mich. St., -46.5 5(142)-ZA'DARIUS SMITH, OLB, Kentucky, +57 6(182)-CODY FAJARDO, QB, Nevada, -18.6 TOTAL: -273.1 (equivalent to losing a late 2nd rounder #64) Even after gaining picks, most of the selections are reaches (especially Cobb in the 3rd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 For this one: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM, WR, +80 3(71)-HRONISS GRASU, C, +65 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-JACOBY GLEN, CB, -11.2 6(182)-JAKE RYAN, ILB, -3.2 TOTAL: +812.6 (equivalent to gaining a 1st round pick #21) This would be an insane draft. DL Starter for next decade with Pro Bowl potential, WR threat to compliment AJ, two starters on OLine for next decade, a decent CB and one of my favorite players in the draft at ILB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear trap Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is how I scored it based on my value based scoring system: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, -120 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, -147 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, +69 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, +17.4 TOTAL: +501.4 (equivalent to gaining a 2nd rounder #40) Since the first round movement is worth much more, getting Williams at #7 would be like getting pick #26 (700 pts). Fans peaks mock would be incredible if Mckinney was switched out with either DGB or Devon smith.... if one of those two were selected I would be the happiest I've ever been after a draft.... I remember the draft we chose Benson at 4th overall I was so completely pissed I broke the TV remote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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