Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 We need a RT.. Mills and Leno both suck. They should just move Long to tackle and be done with it. He's more valuable there than at guard. Good pressure on the quarterback by the defense early. Offense needs to quit shooting themselves in the foot with penalties. Decent showing so far. Let's see how the 2nd quarter goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Also starting to think Kyle Fuller might suck. Responsible for 60 yards in one play on that last TD drive. He's been getting roasted since week 6 of last year. Another gem by Phil Emery.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Terrance Mitchell will be moving up the depth charts after that interception! Also, nice to see Jeremy Langford break a big one. Would have been nice to see him at top speed, but he couldn't find his footing. I like our group of RB's. Wish we could keep them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Acho with a strip sack, and now Langford with another nice run (and then improvised TD run). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Langford was tearing it up against 2nd and 3rd string defenses of a team defenses of a team with a bad first string D. That's what great players should do. He sold me as the future on that td run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Could be. That would be sad. But honestly, not surprising. Also starting to think Kyle Fuller might suck. Responsible for 60 yards in one play on that last TD drive. He's been getting roasted since week 6 of last year. Another gem by Phil Emery.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Could be. That would be sad. But honestly, not surprising. I really thought he would be. Part of the reason my hopes are high for the Bears to have a lot of options to draft a good QB this year. I think the whole secondary is pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 There was talk when Fuller got drafted as to whether he'd make a better FS than corner. That question isn't going to go away anytime soon. He's better playing the ball than his man. That's a trait of a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 There was talk when Fuller got drafted as to whether he'd make a better FS than corner. That question isn't going to go away anytime soon. He's better playing the ball than his man. That's a trait of a safety. Maybe they could look at using Amos at CB and Fuller at Safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Maybe they could look at using Amos at CB and Fuller at Safety? Yeah, that's a possibility. I like Amos at safety, too, though. I want to give it a year to digest. If Fuller continues to get abused, then it's something the coaching staff has to think about. It's also possible he's just a #2 corner and not a #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I am not sure they will try it. Hub Arkush has been pushing this idea for a while. I think he will just turn out a bust in general. He had an amazing start of his career after peanut got hurt but it has been crap since. If I remember right he was the lowest rated CB on PFF, I don't go by their stats normally, but last says a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Also starting to think Kyle Fuller might suck. Responsible for 60 yards in one play on that last TD drive. He's been getting roasted since week 6 of last year. Another gem by Phil Emery.. http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?...hl=Fuller+draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?...hl=Fuller+draft So you're giving credence to Terra's disgust with the pick? ? I still think it's a bit early to think he's a bust, maybe but not certainly. Could be many reasons he's lagging right now that we're not aware of. I'm sure Fangio and Fox are taking copious notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 So you're giving credence to Terra's disgust with the pick? ? I still think it's a bit early to think he's a bust, maybe but not certainly. Could be many reasons he's lagging right now that we're not aware of. I'm sure Fangio and Fox are taking copious notes. Just stirring the pot. I didn't like the pick either. It was bad position-wise when considering that draft, and everyone knew it then as well as now. We needed FS and DT more, and the FS market disappeared after our pick. It would have made more sense to go FS then CB/DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Dan Durkin tweeted out this morning that after watching the play over again, Amos should have been in the vicinity to help on coverage, but Fuller could have played the route tighter. Yeah, I just am always getting used to seeing Fuller giving up 5-10 yards of space everytime a receiver catches a pass in his area. At some point, he needs to be able to put up some resistance. You can't give these receivers so much space to work with.. especially when you're not the fastest guy in the world either. If he doesn't show up this year, it's going to be a rough ride for our secondary. Some of the experts talk about our lack of depth on the DL, but the back end of our defense is in worse shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Boxer Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Also starting to think Kyle Fuller might suck. Responsible for 60 yards in one play on that last TD drive. He's been getting roasted since week 6 of last year. Another gem by Phil Emery.. I think Devon McCourty (Pats) was an all pro his first or second year in the league at CB then sucked...the Pats moved him to safety and he is one of the best safeties in the league. I would love for the Bears to move Fuller to safety...he has good ball skills that would shine at safety IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Couple more thoughts on the game: - Will Sutton looks really good in a 3-4. Never thought I'd say that, but he has been causing havoc in the opposing team's backfield this pre-season so far. Him and Eddie Goldman both have been exceptionally quick off the snap. I've been really impressed with those two. - Sam Acho has no business playing with the 2nd or 3rd team defense. That man has done enough to earn snaps with the 1st team. He has a very good combination of speed and power, and has shown a knack to cause turnovers in the first two pre-season games. Him being out there also gives the Bears more speed on the perimeter for passing downs. I was surprised when Jared Allen was listed as the starter ahead of him, given that it had been reported most of the off-season that he had been working with the 1's. - We have really good RB depth. I have been very surprised as to how good Jaquizz Rodgers has looked thus far running primarily with the 2's in this offense. He and Kadeem Carey have flashed some quickness and agility running between the tackles. They've also shown the ability to move the pile and fall forward once they break into the 2nd level of the defense. I really hope the Bears decide to keep both of them. I think Rodgers is a lock, along with Langford and Forte, but Carey is too talented to let walk away. - We're going to have problems at LT/RT this year. Bushrod is getting older. Mills and Ola have both proven to be useless at RT. Our best lineman is being wasted at guard. When will they move him to tackle? Bushrod played better than he did against Miami last week, but he's still a guy that you can see getting beat often against the speedier DE's. - McLellin and Christian Jones need some work. The talk in camp so far has been about how well McLellin has played moving to ILB in this 3-4 defense, but these first two pre-season games have shown anything but that. He caught a break yesterday leaving way too much space for TY Hilton to be able to catch a slant route that would have surely gone for big yards. Luckily it was dropped. He had multiple breakdowns last week in pass defense as well. Christian Jones doesn't look comfortable in pass coverage either, and pretty much just looks like a guy out there. Hasn't flashed at all yet, but I suppose that could be expected, given that he is still learning how to play in the NFL, and at a new position. Sidenote-- It was good to see Pernell McPhee get in on the action yesterday. He flashed his pass rushing skills in those first two defensive series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Dan Durkin tweeted out this morning that after watching the play over again, Amos should have been in the vicinity to help on coverage, but Fuller could have played the route tighter. Yeah, I just am always getting used to seeing Fuller giving up 5-10 yards of space everytime a receiver catches a pass in his area. At some point, he needs to be able to put up some resistance. You can't give these receivers so much space to work with.. especially when you're not the fastest guy in the world either. If he doesn't show up this year, it's going to be a rough ride for our secondary. Some of the experts talk about our lack of depth on the DL, but the back end of our defense is in worse shape. That was a deep route. Other considerations is the time to get deep, where was the pass rush and where was the help over the top. Those plays happen with a good wr/qb especially with TYs speed. My draft considerations right now have CB and Safties high. Not saying with our first pick but top 3-4 rounds we need to address. I'd really like an OLT round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Couple more thoughts on the game: - Will Sutton looks really good in a 3-4. Never thought I'd say that, but he has been causing havoc in the opposing team's backfield this pre-season so far. Him and Eddie Goldman both have been exceptionally quick off the snap. I've been really impressed with those two. - Sam Acho has no business playing with the 2nd or 3rd team defense. That man has done enough to earn snaps with the 1st team. He has a very good combination of speed and power, and has shown a knack to cause turnovers in the first two pre-season games. Him being out there also gives the Bears more speed on the perimeter for passing downs. I was surprised when Jared Allen was listed as the starter ahead of him, given that it had been reported most of the off-season that he had been working with the 1's. - We have really good RB depth. I have been very surprised as to how good Jaquizz Rodgers has looked thus far running primarily with the 2's in this offense. He and Kadeem Carey have flashed some quickness and agility running between the tackles. They've also shown the ability to move the pile and fall forward once they break into the 2nd level of the defense. I really hope the Bears decide to keep both of them. I think Rodgers is a lock, along with Langford and Forte, but Carey is too talented to let walk away. - We're going to have problems at LT/RT this year. Bushrod is getting older. Mills and Ola have both proven to be useless at RT. Our best lineman is being wasted at guard. When will they move him to tackle? Bushrod played better than he did against Miami last week, but he's still a guy that you can see getting beat often against the speedier DE's. - McLellin and Christian Jones need some work. The talk in camp so far has been about how well McLellin has played moving to ILB in this 3-4 defense, but these first two pre-season games have shown anything but that. He caught a break yesterday leaving way too much space for TY Hilton to be able to catch a slant route that would have surely gone for big yards. Luckily it was dropped. He had multiple breakdowns last week in pass defense as well. Christian Jones doesn't look comfortable in pass coverage either, and pretty much just looks like a guy out there. Hasn't flashed at all yet, but I suppose that could be expected, given that he is still learning how to play in the NFL, and at a new position. Sidenote-- It was good to see Pernell McPhee get in on the action yesterday. He flashed his pass rushing skills in those first two defensive series. agree with all your points, except Bushrod being bad, he is a average LT, somewhere in the middle of the NFL. We have our future LT playing RG. To late to do that this year. But Bushrod would look better as a RT than on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Id also like to add that I think Jenkins could be this years Willie Young. Relative low purchase FA but lots of upside. He and McPhee look real nice together on the left side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Couple more thoughts on the game: - Will Sutton looks really good in a 3-4. Never thought I'd say that, but he has been causing havoc in the opposing team's backfield this pre-season so far. Him and Eddie Goldman both have been exceptionally quick off the snap. I've been really impressed with those two. Great to see Ego, Will, and Eddie making plays. Might have to give PE, some credit. Missed C Washington as I thought he was doing good things too. He did not dress. Our d line may be solid for years. - Sam Acho has no business playing with the 2nd or 3rd team defense. That man has done enough to earn snaps with the 1st team. He has a very good combination of speed and power, and has shown a knack to cause turnovers in the first two pre-season games. Him being out there also gives the Bears more speed on the perimeter for passing downs. I was surprised when Jared Allen was listed as the starter ahead of him, given that it had been reported most of the off-season that he had been working with the 1's. Another position deep with talent. I like all of our depth Houston, Young, Bass, and Acho to go with McPhee and Allen. And to think many, including me wanted a Vic Beasley, Bud Dupree, Randy Gregory during pre draft thoughts. - We have really good RB depth. I have been very surprised as to how good Jaquizz Rodgers has looked thus far running primarily with the 2's in this offense. He and Kadeem Carey have flashed some quickness and agility running between the tackles. They've also shown the ability to move the pile and fall forward once they break into the 2nd level of the defense. I really hope the Bears decide to keep both of them. I think Rodgers is a lock, along with Langford and Forte, but Carey is too talented to let walk away. Going to be tough decisions made here. I'd like to hold onto them all. I'd also like to see Forte finish his career here after this season. Langford looks the part as a featured back when his time comes. Rodgers was a nice addition and he will be a good change of pace. Carey/Perry would be nice to keep both. Carey playing ST has to be outstanding in coverage if he wants to survive. - We're going to have problems at LT/RT this year. Bushrod is getting older. Mills and Ola have both proven to be useless at RT. Our best lineman is being wasted at guard. When will they move him to tackle? Bushrod played better than he did against Miami last week, but he's still a guy that you can see getting beat often against the speedier DE's. Weakest spot on the team is RT. Too bad they don't move Long out and elevate Grasu to G. I see OT as a high priority come draft. - McLellin and Christian Jones need some work. The talk in camp so far has been about how well McLellin has played moving to ILB in this 3-4 defense, but these first two pre-season games have shown anything but that. He caught a break yesterday leaving way too much space for TY Hilton to be able to catch a slant route that would have surely gone for big yards. Luckily it was dropped. He had multiple breakdowns last week in pass defense as well. Christian Jones doesn't look comfortable in pass coverage either, and pretty much just looks like a guy out there. Hasn't flashed at all yet, but I suppose that could be expected, given that he is still learning how to play in the NFL, and at a new position. I thought they both did good on run plays. Unfortunately Bostic and Foster looked worse. In coverage, I see the ILB as a liability. Two more weeks to work on improvement, McClellin will rack up #s if you need a LB in FF. Sidenote-- It was good to see Pernell McPhee get in on the action yesterday. He flashed his pass rushing skills in those first two defensive series. Great game points Bears4ever34. I think even Jay showed improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't know how any Bears fan could watch this game against Indy and not be encouraged. There are definite areas where improvement is needed but at least, unlike last year, they looked professional. Much better pass rush and special teams. Leno was BAD and our secondary needs work. RB looks deep and Bennett is still going to be a top TE. A balanced attack will keep opposing D's honest which will help our suspect OL and Jay. Better pressure on the opposing QB will help our secondary. I still say this is a borderline 500 team due to our brutal schedule but a W or 2 worse or better wouldn't surprise me either. We'll know more next week. I do wish we had some healthy WR's on this team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm pleased with our teams improvements. We look competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Grasu's lack of strength right now is glaring - he gets consistently pushed back. I don't see how anyone can see him as a starter this year unless there's an injury. I also haven't been real impressed with the starting ILB play. Mason Foster is outplaying both Jones and McClellin from what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Foster should be a starter. Acho should be a starter. Cutler looks really good ( DID Y'ALL SEE HIM ROLL OUT?!?!) RBs are real deep, which is why we really didn't need to draft Langford. Need RT help pretty badly. By the time we get a new one, we will probably need a LT. And so on. Hopefully Mills turns it around and doesn't destroy the offense, or Cutler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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