Bears4Ever_34 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 A source close to Jeffery came away from a recent conversation with him convinced he felt unhappy in Chicago and, at times, isolated because of a lack of close friends since Brandon Marshall's departure. Jeffery mentioned how much he looked forward to free-agency, according to the source. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...102-column.html From David Haugh's article. Not surprising. This stuff came from Dan Bernstein about a month ago. Jeffery doesn't have many friends in Chicago because he's so shy, and he wasn't very happy when Marshall got traded. This injury stuff sure looks like it's derived from a lack of focus and work ethic. It's his way of pouting to get what he wants. My question is, do you now franchise him in order to trade him? Or do you still want to keep him around? Isn't there a transition tag or something where you can get two 1st's if a team bids on a player who is tagged? I would take two firsts for Jeffery if it came down to it. I really don't want to lose homegrown talent, because those are the types you are suppose to keep around, but if he's going to be a baby about everything, I would rather get something for him and let Pace use a couple extra high picks to rebuild the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 The type of tender that can be used for draft picks is when your guy is a restricted free agent. Alshon isn't restricted. I hope he stays. He's a legit top 5 WR when healthy, and you take a chance with that toe of guy 9 times outta 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 He needs to grow a pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...102-column.html From David Haugh's article. Not surprising. This stuff came from Dan Bernstein about a month ago. Jeffery doesn't have many friends in Chicago because he's so shy, and he wasn't very happy when Marshall got traded. This injury stuff sure looks like it's derived from a lack of focus and work ethic. It's his way of pouting to get what he wants. My question is, do you now franchise him in order to trade him? Or do you still want to keep him around? Isn't there a transition tag or something where you can get two 1st's if a team bids on a player who is tagged? I would take two firsts for Jeffery if it came down to it. I really don't want to lose homegrown talent, because those are the types you are suppose to keep around, but if he's going to be a baby about everything, I would rather get something for him and let Pace use a couple extra high picks to rebuild the team. That's what many here suspected. Especially with the departure of BM. What's he going to do when Brandon retires, IF, let's say, he were traded to New York? BM has said the Jets will be his last team of course he didn't say how much longer he had. It's too bad that Jeffery can't try and find anothe mentor among some of the other players. Seems like Royal might be a good one to tag onto. It's even more unfortunate that a guy with as much talent as Jeffery has can turn it off and on as easy as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Not gonna happen, but if need be, I wonder if NY would do an Alshon for Decker swap. Doesn't really make sense for the Jets, but it would be perfect for the Bears side of things. Decker played under Fox/Gase, they're similar styled WRs, Alshon gets to reunite with B, and the Bears aren't stuck with a meh free agent/rookie across from White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...102-column.html From David Haugh's article. Not surprising. This stuff came from Dan Bernstein about a month ago. Jeffery doesn't have many friends in Chicago because he's so shy, and he wasn't very happy when Marshall got traded. This injury stuff sure looks like it's derived from a lack of focus and work ethic. It's his way of pouting to get what he wants. My question is, do you now franchise him in order to trade him? Or do you still want to keep him around? Isn't there a transition tag or something where you can get two 1st's if a team bids on a player who is tagged? I would take two firsts for Jeffery if it came down to it. I really don't want to lose homegrown talent, because those are the types you are suppose to keep around, but if he's going to be a baby about everything, I would rather get something for him and let Pace use a couple extra high picks to rebuild the team. Tag him. 100%. Test the trade market, nothing worth trading for...,hopefully things go really well next season and he wants to stay here long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Not gonna happen, but if need be, I wonder if NY would do an Alshon for Decker swap. Doesn't really make sense for the Jets, but it would be perfect for the Bears side of things. Decker played under Fox/Gase, they're similar styled WRs, Alshon gets to reunite with B, and the Bears aren't stuck with a meh free agent/rookie across from White. Have to say that does make some sense. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Tag him and try to trade him. I would say a top 2nd round pick would be acceptable. If no one bites, keep him for a year. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Holly crap! Buy the big puss a puppy or something!.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Holly crap! Buy the big puss a puppy or something!.. lol.....hell i got two Goldens ill give him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Not gonna happen, but if need be, I wonder if NY would do an Alshon for Decker swap. Doesn't really make sense for the Jets, but it would be perfect for the Bears side of things. Decker played under Fox/Gase, they're similar styled WRs, Alshon gets to reunite with B, and the Bears aren't stuck with a meh free agent/rookie across from White. Seriously??? That makes plenty of sense for the Jets because Alshon is easily better than Decker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Makes me feel glad Marshall missed the playoffs yet again... But to the point, I say tag him for the next 2 years. We have the cap space. Try to find someone in FA or in the draft. Or a trade partner. And continue to work on him on a contract and see if he grows up. This is just disappointing. Here's hoping Kevin White kicks ass! But, we still need some complimentary help. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...102-column.html From David Haugh's article. Not surprising. This stuff came from Dan Bernstein about a month ago. Jeffery doesn't have many friends in Chicago because he's so shy, and he wasn't very happy when Marshall got traded. This injury stuff sure looks like it's derived from a lack of focus and work ethic. It's his way of pouting to get what he wants. My question is, do you now franchise him in order to trade him? Or do you still want to keep him around? Isn't there a transition tag or something where you can get two 1st's if a team bids on a player who is tagged? I would take two firsts for Jeffery if it came down to it. I really don't want to lose homegrown talent, because those are the types you are suppose to keep around, but if he's going to be a baby about everything, I would rather get something for him and let Pace use a couple extra high picks to rebuild the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 His buddy got traded to the Jets and now he has no friends on the team? Shows you the type of person BM was and why he had to go. Too bad Jeffery cannot take that mentor role and become a leader himself, but he cannot overcome the BM garbage and regain his teammates respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I knew getting rid of BM was a bad idea. Not only did he have another great year in NY, but he also precipitated the Kevin White pick - which is currently very negative - and may end up costing us Alshon as well. The Bears need good football players who produce on the field. They do not need to dump people who a semi-problematic elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I knew getting rid of BM was a bad idea. Not only did he have another great year in NY, but he also precipitated the Kevin White pick - which is currently very negative - and may end up costing us Alshon as well. The Bears need good football players who produce on the field. They do not need to dump people who a semi-problematic elsewhere. Can't agree with you on this one. BM was not good for the locker room. Pace and Fox made the decision to move him out. I stand with them on this. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Can't agree with you on this one. BM was not good for the locker room. Pace and Fox made the decision to move him out. I stand with them on this. Peace I honestly don't think he was that bad in the locker room. I think the previous coaching staff was just clueless in the locker room. I believe Fox could have easily handled the situation, and kept BM. Three added benefits to this: BM is on the team catching TDs, Alshon wants to stay, 2015's 1st round pick could have been spent on a different position of need instead of filling a hole left by BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 As Bill Murray said in Meatballs...it just doesn't matter. He gone. Now what do we do? I say we do everything (within reason) to retain Jeffrey. There's a big difference between being unhappy and being a problem. Sometimes money and a bit of reassurance can work magic... I honestly don't think he was that bad in the locker room. I think the previous coaching staff was just clueless in the locker room. I believe Fox could have easily handled the situation, and kept BM. Three added benefits to this: BM is on the team catching TDs, Alshon wants to stay, 2015's 1st round pick could have been spent on a different position of need instead of filling a hole left by BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I honestly don't think he was that bad in the locker room. I think the previous coaching staff was just clueless in the locker room. I believe Fox could have easily handled the situation, and kept BM. Three added benefits to this: BM is on the team catching TDs, Alshon wants to stay, 2015's 1st round pick could have been spent on a different position of need instead of filling a hole left by BM. They probably could have, but didn't want to deal with it. It want the old staff that gave him the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Not even an issue for this year. And money talks a lot as does another year around the org. Either way, at a minimum, we have two straight years we can keep him here under our control (as I think you can use the franchise tag twice on a player, before losing that right). Whatever you think you will get for Jeffrey via trade probably does not commensurate with the value he brings to the Bears (and it isn't as if we are a playoff team with plenty of talent who could take a different route). Bottom line, I think Alshon is stuck with us (unless someone is going to give up a 1st round pick and I don't see that very likely). Also, money talks and he's going to get some big money offers from the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I honestly don't think he was that bad in the locker room. I think the previous coaching staff was just clueless in the locker room. I believe Fox could have easily handled the situation, and kept BM. Three added benefits to this: BM is on the team catching TDs, Alshon wants to stay, 2015's 1st round pick could have been spent on a different position of need instead of filling a hole left by BM. I don't recall many people saying how much they were going to miss him. What have you heard to think he wasn't a tool in the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 On a sidenote, could some of this talk be posturing by his agent to try and put more leverage on the Bears? I wouldn't put it past an agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I honestly don't think he was that bad in the locker room. I think the previous coaching staff was just clueless in the locker room. I believe Fox could have easily handled the situation, and kept BM. Three added benefits to this: BM is on the team catching TDs, Alshon wants to stay, 2015's 1st round pick could have been spent on a different position of need instead of filling a hole left by BM. The attitude problems are tough for us to evaluate but there clearly was something there. Aside from that we can't dismiss the likelihood the front office also wanted/needed some cap space in 2015, and again this year. We only gained around $4mil last year and gave $5mil to Royal so that wasn't even a wash. I think it was more for the long term plan in that Pace didn't want to be paying $10mil/yr to Brandon Marshall and $10-12mil/yr for Jeffrey starting in 2016. So in the end maybe a little of both improve the locker room and spend some money elsewhere. http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2015/4/21...contract-driven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I knew getting rid of BM was a bad idea. Not only did he have another great year in NY, but he also precipitated the Kevin White pick - which is currently very negative - and may end up costing us Alshon as well. The Bears need good football players who produce on the field. They do not need to dump people who a semi-problematic elsewhere. It was a horrible idea. Marshall is and will be a great player for a few years to come and was being a good teammate and mentor by organizing his offseason stuff and taking Jeffery under his wing. He even included Jeffery this year after had left for another team. Sadly, that may not be the biggest blunder from this front office. Have a look at New Orleans talent and team this year. We got the brightest bulb from their tree, that built that hunk of junk team, as our GM. Hopefully he can prove me wrong, but I'm not too high on Pace. Marshall's year just reinforces that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 It was a horrible idea. Marshall is and will be a great player for a few years to come and was being a good teammate and mentor by organizing his offseason stuff and taking Jeffery under his wing. He even included Jeffery this year after had left for another team. Sadly, that may not be the biggest blunder from this front office. Have a look at New Orleans talent and team this year. We got the brightest bulb from their tree, that built that hunk of junk team, as our GM. Hopefully he can prove me wrong, but I'm not too high on Pace. Marshall's year just reinforces that to me. Marshall won over one player. There are 50 others that despised him. If the trade was straight up for Amos for Marshall, then it is has value because he led this team in tackles and made the all rookie team. Amos has a whole career, Marshall is talking retirement already. The Bears no longer wanted to deal with him. Hard to blame them when 3/4 of the team did not like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Marshall won over one player. There are 50 others that despised him. If the trade was straight up for Amos for Marshall, then it is has value because he led this team in tackles and made the all rookie team. Amos has a whole career, Marshall is talking retirement already. The Bears no longer wanted to deal with him. Hard to blame them when 3/4 of the team did not like him. I would love to know 10 of the 50. Amos will probably never start again within 3 years, when they have time to get the talent on the team they want, probably even next year. Marshall was busy dominating. I can name a few. Gould who sucks now. he was the catalyst for the whole the locker room doesn't like him thing.He's just sour because he was called just a kicker when Marshall was busy trying to get the team fired up and start winning. Briggs who was gone and retired, that was too done with football to pay attention to marshall. Forte acted like he could careless about him. Jay Cutler, who Marshall spent years taking his side and getting his back, then he finally called him out on needing to step up and he really needed to. I also think it's funny when PPL talk about how Marshall hasn't been in the playoffs, yet he was straddled with Cutler that has been there what, like once, a Miami team that hasn't been there forever, and a Jets team that over achieved this year and should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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