ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Agreed and we need someone coming off the edge that scares the crap out of our opponents! When you play 3/4 teams you look for their edge rusher no matter where he lines up. The Bears need that kind of guy. I think drafting a late round prospect would be best this year. Dadi Nicholas or Travis Feeney are two speed guys that can be developed while Houston, Young, and McPhee take on the majority of the role. Next draft, Young comes off the books and investing higher is more feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think drafting a late round prospect would be best this year. Dadi Nicholas or Travis Feeney are two speed guys that can be developed while Houston, Young, and McPhee take on the majority of the role. Next draft, Young comes off the books and investing higher is more feasible. Of the 3 mocks I've done Dadi Nicolas is our 7th round pick in 2 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I saw Brads response and had thought about this earlier today. If the team addresses a lot of the 'needs' as you listed them through FA, would you still feel the same way? And when I say through FA I don't mean old guys who are has beens but a player like Trevathan, an Osemele and a Berry? Players who can contribute now and for a few more years? And FWIW I have to somewhat agree with Houston that I don't think OLB is as much a need as some are thinking. I think based on what McPhee has shown in potential and what Houston and Young did in the late stretch, I don't think we're nearly as bad off there. Quick answer, BPA is more viable if the Bears fill holes. If they snagged Trevathan, Osemele, and a few high quality other signings, then yes BPA makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Agreed and we need someone coming off the edge that scares the crap out of our opponents! When you play 3/4 teams you look for their edge rusher no matter where he lines up. The Bears need that kind of guy. McPhee doesn't do that? Seemed to me when he was on he did pretty well. Got hurt late in the season and lost his edge but he's got a purpose to hurt. I'd agree to your thought as long is wasn't that we were looking in round one or 2 for an OLB (unless you were able to find the next Von Miller... Then maybe). You think Ragland could do OLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 McPhee doesn't do that? Seemed to me when he was on he did pretty well. Got hurt late in the season and lost his edge but he's got a purpose to hurt. I'd agree to your thought as long is wasn't that we were looking in round one or 2 for an OLB (unless you were able to find the next Von Miller... Then maybe). You think Ragland could do OLB? 1. Completely agree. McPhee, Young, and Houston constitute the deepest position on the Bears. 2. No way on OLB in the first two rounds. 3. Ragland absolutely can't play OLB in a 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 3. Ragland absolutely can't play OLB in a 3-4. This agreeing thing is really creepy.... So what about this Myles Jack guy? He seems versatile. Isn't he the one that played some RB too? I see him as this years version of Shaq Lawson (currently of the Panthers) who played; LB, Safety and RB in college. Turns out to a pretty sweet LB for Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 This agreeing thing is really creepy.... So what about this Myles Jack guy? He seems versatile. Isn't he the one that played some RB too? I see him as this years version of Shaq Lawson (currently of the Panthers) who played; LB, Safety and RB in college. Turns out to a pretty sweet LB for Carolina. Yep - He doubled in at RB. In fact, I heard one person say if he was a full time RB, he'd have been a 1st round pick (highlighting his overall athleticism). I really like him. Whenever I've heard him interviewed, he just sounds like a guy who gets it and will kick ass (and he was really good on the field and has a lot of upside as he's still raw but seems coachable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 1. Completely agree. McPhee, Young, and Houston constitute the deepest position on the Bears. 2. No way on OLB in the first two rounds. 3. Ragland absolutely can't play OLB in a 3-4. If we are a year or two away, Young and Houston don't really do us much good. It sounds like Bears are thinking hard about cutting Houston and trading Young. I think we could probably get something for Young (4th - 6th round pick, most likely 5th) and in Houston's case given his contract, not sure if we could actually generate a pick for him or not (we can pretty much cut him with no strings attached). So if we don't buy on them longer term, than maybe we keep one for depth, but it seems like Shea would be that guy before Young / Houston and to be frank, if Fangio likes Shea that much, I'd rather give him the 1.5 or 2M per year to see if you get some upside in him than use time on guys who won't be around when we are finally there (not to mention who we might be able to use to get us extra picks). The nice thing about all those extra picks, is if you get them, you can legitimately dangle them to move around in the draft and ensure you get the targets you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yep - He doubled in at RB. In fact, I heard one person say if he was a full time RB, he'd have been a 1st round pick (highlighting his overall athleticism). I really like him. Whenever I've heard him interviewed, he just sounds like a guy who gets it and will kick ass (and he was really good on the field and has a lot of upside as he's still raw but seems coachable). Some discussion i heard recently on NFL Network (can't remember who said it) that the wave of the future on defense are versatile players (players who have experience at other positions) that play LB. They even mentioned Urlacher and his history as a Safety in college as an example. Think they were using Von Miller as an example of how speed kills when used right. Like in the SB when one minute he's crashing down on Cam from the outside then on the next play dropping back on pass coverage. I personally like the idea of multi dimensional players like that. If Jack fits the bill... Sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 If we are a year or two away, Young and Houston don't really do us much good. It sounds like Bears are thinking hard about cutting Houston and trading Young. I think we could probably get something for Young (4th - 6th round pick, most likely 5th) and in Houston's case given his contract, not sure if we could actually generate a pick for him or not (we can pretty much cut him with no strings attached). So if we don't buy on them longer term, than maybe we keep one for depth, but it seems like Shea would be that guy before Young / Houston and to be frank, if Fangio likes Shea that much, I'd rather give him the 1.5 or 2M per year to see if you get some upside in him than use time on guys who won't be around when we are finally there (not to mention who we might be able to use to get us extra picks). The nice thing about all those extra picks, is if you get them, you can legitimately dangle them to move around in the draft and ensure you get the targets you want. Cutting Houston would be a bad move. He was dinged at the beginning of the year and came on strong late. Same goes for Willie Young who was on fire for 5-6 games. Those guys are both good vets. B+ guys who won't be pro-bowlers probably, but they are good enough to be really solid on a team that has starts elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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