Titans expected to trade top pick

[bradjock]

I thought this was interesting:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-footba...cting-trade-out

 

Although it probably won't impact the Bears since they will likely still draft in front of them.

[bradjock]

I thought this was interesting:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-footba...cting-trade-out

 

Although it probably won't impact the Bears since they will likely still draft in front of them.

 

Holy Crap. It looks like it's done. As per the Bleacher Report, it looks like it's the Lawrence Welk combination of draft picks. A one, and a two, and a 3 and a one and a two and a 3 . . .

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4...97-2747e1599854

[jason]

Holy Crap. It looks like it's done. As per the Bleacher Report, it looks like it's the Lawrence Welk combination of draft picks. A one, and a two, and a 3 and a one and a two and a 3 . . .

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4...97-2747e1599854

 

WOW!

 

Expect the Titans to be really good in 2-3 years.

 

At 15 the Titans can still pick up one of the stud LTs like Conklin, Decker, or Spriggs to protect Mariota. Then they have THREE 2nd rounders. WOW.

[bradjock]

WOW!

 

Expect the Titans to be really good in 2-3 years.

 

At 15 the Titans can still pick up one of the stud LTs like Conklin, Decker, or Spriggs to protect Mariota. Then they have THREE 2nd rounders. WOW.

 

It's weird that the Rams have made so many moves like this, trading back and stockpiling picks. Yet they continue to suck, primarily because they ain't got a QB. If Wenz is the guy the Rams could be dangerous also.

[AZ54]

Holy Crap. It looks like it's done. As per the Bleacher Report, it looks like it's the Lawrence Welk combination of draft picks. A one, and a two, and a 3 and a one and a two and a 3 . . .

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4...97-2747e1599854

 

That was funny although I wonder how many here understand that reference.

[AZ54]

This is great news for us as far as someone falling to us. I think now it's very likely Lynch is gone in the top 10. On the flip side I think this makes it harder for us to trade back unless someone has a real desire for the player that falls out of the top 10. I could see that for Stanley who is definitely a LT or to a lesser extent Buckner. Less likely for Buckner just because there is so much Dline depth.

[Stinger226]

This is great news for us as far as someone falling to us. I think now it's very likely Lynch is gone in the top 10. On the flip side I think this makes it harder for us to trade back unless someone has a real desire for the player that falls out of the top 10. I could see that for Stanley who is definitely a LT or to a lesser extent Buckner. Less likely for Buckner just because there is so much Dline depth.

How about Tennessee trading back to us to get stanley if he is there. The 15th and ine second gets them our pick and could still probably get Robinson or jackson

[jason]

I agree this is bad for us at 11 and the prospect of trading back.

 

But I think this is good for us because it's likely the Rams, Browns, and Niners pick a QB. That means at least one stud falls to 11.

 

For the record, it's a pretty even trade.

Titans give up

1.1-3000

4.113-68

6.177-20.6

Total-3088.6

 

Rams give up

1.15-1050

2.43-470

2.45-450

3.76-210

1.15-1050 (approx)

3.145-33.5 (approx)

Total-3263.5

 

[Chitownhustla]

I agree this is bad for us at 11 and the prospect of trading back.

 

But I think this is good for us because it's likely the Rams, Browns, and Niners pick a QB. That means at least one stud falls to 11.

 

For the record, it's a pretty even trade.

Titans give up

1.1-3000

4.113-68

6.177-20.6

Total-3088.6

 

Rams give up

1.15-1050

2.43-470

2.45-450

3.76-210

1.15-1050 (approx)

3.145-33.5 (approx)

Total-3263.5

 

 

WOW!! Good for the Titans. Good luck Rams!! The Rams clearly love one of the QB's. Wonder if the Browns were in love with the same guy. It is definitely better for us. I think this ensures at least 2 QB's maybe 3 will go before we draft. All we need is 1 or 2 more teams to draft someone out of left field and maybe we have a could of options!

 

 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

WOW!

 

Expect the Titans to be really good in 2-3 years.

 

At 15 the Titans can still pick up one of the stud LTs like Conklin, Decker, or Spriggs to protect Mariota. Then they have THREE 2nd rounders. WOW.

Good move by Titans but the quality LT at 15 vs. where they were picking is significantly worse. Still, they should be able to have multiple picks to help build a strong line in one draft while also addressing other needs. Great trade for them and for the Rams, if they truly think one of these guys is a franchise QB, than I can't fault them for it. But serious risk.

 

I've long been a huge believer in the trade down philosophy.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

I agree this is bad for us at 11 and the prospect of trading back.

 

But I think this is good for us because it's likely the Rams, Browns, and Niners pick a QB. That means at least one stud falls to 11.

 

For the record, it's a pretty even trade.

Titans give up

1.1-3000

4.113-68

6.177-20.6

Total-3088.6

 

Rams give up

1.15-1050

2.43-470

2.45-450

3.76-210

1.15-1050 (approx)

3.145-33.5 (approx)

Total-3263.5

I think the Titans might actually look at our pick and move up if Stanley is there (and that possibility has increased given this trade). Titans will easily have the flexibility. If they don't move up, to your point, if a team goes another direction, we might get lucky and get a top 8 talent (which by all accounts is where the real talent gap drops off) at 11.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

Now hopefully Lynch gets taken before #11. Hate to think it, but I have a feeling Pace would take him. Think about it, his offseason left no absolute needs.

 

Hopefully this gives us Buckner or Stanely

 

 

[dawhizz]

I think the Titans might actually look at our pick and move up if Stanley is there (and that possibility has increased given this trade). Titans will easily have the flexibility. If they don't move up, to your point, if a team goes another direction, we might get lucky and get a top 8 talent (which by all accounts is where the real talent gap drops off) at 11.

 

If Stanley is there at #11 and the Titans call and offer #15 and their 3rd, do you take Stanley or trade down?

[jason]

Good move by Titans but the quality LT at 15 vs. where they were picking is significantly worse. Still, they should be able to have multiple picks to help build a strong line in one draft while also addressing other needs. Great trade for them and for the Rams, if they truly think one of these guys is a franchise QB, than I can't fault them for it. But serious risk.

 

I've long been a huge believer in the trade down philosophy.

 

I think this is a horrible trade for the Rams. They're mortgaging the future on one player. It's a single roll of the dice. There is zero room for mistakes.

 

The Titans, however, have several rolls. Great for them. It feels like the Dallas Cowboy trade that built their franchise in the 90s. You're right that Conklin et. al. are not as good as Tunsil or Stanley, but this is a smart percentage play. According to this site the Titans need a RT, CB, WR, FS, & RB. Imagine if they came away with the following combo:

 

1.16 - Jack Conklin, OT, MSU

2.33 - Michael Thomas, WR, OSU

2.43 - Artie Burns, CB, Miami

2.45 - Keanu Neal, FS, FL

 

That's a scary good start and fill of their positions.

[jason]

If Stanley is there at #11 and the Titans call and offer #15 and their 3rd, do you take Stanley or trade down?

 

Personally, I say no. Stanley is a bookend LT that solidifies the offense, protects Cutler (and the QB of the future). He's about as sure of a pick as there is in the draft. A 3rd rounder is a much bigger gamble.

[Chitownhustla]

Personally, I say no. Stanley is a bookend LT that solidifies the offense, protects Cutler (and the QB of the future). He's about as sure of a pick as there is in the draft. A 3rd rounder is a much bigger gamble.

 

If Stanley makes it to 11 you HAVE to take him.

[scs787]

If Stanley is there at #11 and the Titans call and offer #15 and their 3rd, do you take Stanley or trade down?

 

I would. I'm really starting to like the idea of Taylor Decker. He's not as good as Stanley in pass protection, but I do think he'll be good enough in that department to stick at LT in the NFL. What he does MUCH better than Stanley is run block, and he does that very very well. I think for a team that looks to run the ball a ton, drafting a guy who isn't a good run blocker might be a bit of a mistake.

 

 

[jason]

I would. I'm really starting to like the idea of Taylor Decker. He's not as good as Stanley in pass protection, but I do think he'll be good enough in that department to stick at LT in the NFL. What he does MUCH better than Stanley is run block, and he does that very very well. I think for a team that looks to run the ball a ton, drafting a guy who isn't a good run blocker might be a bit of a mistake.

 

 

That "can't run block" stuff is being overplayed. People are reaching for something on him. Look at any of his highlights and you'll see good run blocking and very superior pass blocking.

 

He engages strong in the run. He uses angles and defender momentum to crash them away from the play. He locks on and doesn't let go. When defenders get the inside leverage, they still have difficulty getting off and making the tackle because Stanley is man-handling them. He gets a good base and pushes back linemen. He absolutely destroys or seals off guys on the second level. His feet are SUPERB in all of this. It's amazing how often he gets the outside seal on a defender for being such a big guy.

 

Watch this USC highlight and tell me you see otherwise. The pass blocking really is a thing of beauty. He just buries guys, obliterates them, covers them up with a blanket and tucks their asses in.

 

[AZ54]

How about Tennessee trading back to us to get stanley if he is there. The 15th and ine second gets them our pick and could still probably get Robinson or jackson

 

I was thinking the same thing. I could see that deal going to the Giants as well unless they are enamored with someone like Treadwell and don't want to risk losing him. If a team wants a WR this year there is a big drop off after the first few. Even among 1st Rd picks you have diverse skill sets between Treadwell and Coleman. If it works out and we can still trade back to 15 and pick up an additional 2nd Rd pick I'd be very happy.

[lemonej]

I'm thinking this is only the tip of the iceberg. Players expected to go in the top 10 will get pushed back by 1 and the Bears may have an opportunity to trade back depending on if there is another QB needy team trading into the top 10

[AZ54]

I'm still hanging onto my suggestion that Lynch might very well be the 2nd rated QB on the Browns board.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-footba...happen-in-top-5

 

 

I don't think Cleveland wants to go back very far and SF might very well be their target in this charade.

 

First, I doubt the Cowboys take a QB at #1. If Jerruh wants to win a Superbowl now then the best path to do this is to grab a blue chip player with #4 overall and then do whatever it takes to get a decent backup QB in Rd 2, or with your second pick if it means trading up.

 

I think SF is the obvious target here for Cleveland. Rumors are they have a deal to move Kap to the Broncos if they draft a QB, and they'll likely get something in draft picks in exchange. Clearly they want someone else at QB. Kap wants out as well so there is no love lost among both sides in SF. Currently SF has 12 draft picks. What are they going to do with more picks than that? If Cleveland is just as happy with Lynch, or happier, then why not see if the 49ers really want Goff?

 

The risk here might be the Eagles jumping ahead of #8 to take Lynch but they have shipped out a lot of players and need to restock their roster. They are good enough at QB with Bradford for two seasons to be patient and see what happens. Beyond the Eagles you are looking at Buffalo and maybe the Jets but for either team to get all the way up ahead of #7 it's very expensive and I don't see it happening.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

If Stanley is there at #11 and the Titans call and offer #15 and their 3rd, do you take Stanley or trade down?

I don't think that is enough to move down those 4 slots. I'd ask for one extra pick, but yeah, than I'm game (unless Bears graded Stanley as top on the board). On a sidenote, I don't think Stanley will be there. Giants are taking a tackle and you know Tunsill will be gone as well so I see at least 2 tackles going before our pick (possibly a third).

[DABEARSDABOMB]

I think this is a horrible trade for the Rams. They're mortgaging the future on one player. It's a single roll of the dice. There is zero room for mistakes.

 

The Titans, however, have several rolls. Great for them. It feels like the Dallas Cowboy trade that built their franchise in the 90s. You're right that Conklin et. al. are not as good as Tunsil or Stanley, but this is a smart percentage play. According to this site the Titans need a RT, CB, WR, FS, & RB. Imagine if they came away with the following combo:

 

1.16 - Jack Conklin, OT, MSU

2.33 - Michael Thomas, WR, OSU

2.43 - Artie Burns, CB, Miami

2.45 - Keanu Neal, FS, FL

 

That's a scary good start and fill of their positions.

Oh I agree I wouldn't make it, it only works for the Rams if they truly think they have a franchise QB. I think they would hvae been better off taking Lynch at 15 and drafting another QB in the 3rd round as I don't think the difference between Goff or Wentz or Lynch is that significant.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

I was thinking the same thing. I could see that deal going to the Giants as well unless they are enamored with someone like Treadwell and don't want to risk losing him. If a team wants a WR this year there is a big drop off after the first few. Even among 1st Rd picks you have diverse skill sets between Treadwell and Coleman. If it works out and we can still trade back to 15 and pick up an additional 2nd Rd pick I'd be very happy.

Everything I've heard is Giants are locked in on an LT.

[dawhizz]

My problem with this trade is that you are bringing a rookie QB into a situation without a supporting cast to succeed. While it would be smarter to let him sit for a year, they will want to start their rookie QB because I can't imagine this new LA franchise doing anything else. But who does he have to throw to? They didn't upgrade their skill positions at all and are stuck with Kenny Britt, Brian Quick, Tavon Austin, and Lance Kendricks. That's not a recipe for success and they aren't going to upgrade that group appreciably with a third and 2 fourth round picks.