bradjock Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I've thought all along round #2 was the perfect spot for a 5 technique. We struck gold their with Goldman last year and the draft is much deeper. On a side note, Atlanta and Oakland both made deep reaches at safety in Neal and Joseph. i don't know what to think of that, but it helps the Bears in solidifying the defensive front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 DL. Get another monster on that line and the LBs are gonna do whatever they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I think there is going to be a huge run on DE pretty soon. Robinson, Bullard, Calhoun, Spence, Billings, Butler, Reed. At this point I could see Nkemdiche slipping. If he's there, I hope the Bears jump on him in the first 5 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I've thought all along round #2 was the perfect spot for a 5 technique. We struck gold their with Goldman last year and the draft is much deeper. On a side note, Atlanta and Oakland both made deep reaches at safety in Neal and Joseph. i don't know what to think of that, but it helps the Bears in solidifying the defensive front. I am all in on 5t if the right guy is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 5T makes sense or maybe a CB depending on how things shake out (Jackson, Alexander, Burns). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Derrick Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Derrick Henry. I would hate that pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I would hate that pick. Henry in the 2nd makes more sense than Elliott in the 1st. Their talent is not that far apart, and getting him a round later is a huge bonus. He's going to be a monster. I still think he'll be better than Elliott in the NFL. Having said that, I don't want him in the 2nd. Too many good 5T guys there. Too many good SS guys there. Too many OTs there. All three positions are more important than RB right now for the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Henry in the 2nd makes more sense than Elliott in the 1st. Their talent is not that far apart, and getting him a round later is a huge bonus. He's going to be a monster. I still think he'll be better than Elliott in the NFL. Having said that, I don't want him in the 2nd. Too many good 5T guys there. Too many good SS guys there. Too many OTs there. All three positions are more important than RB right now for the Bears. I don't think they are even comparable backs. Elliot is so much more talented. Huge gap . I also have limited faith in the ability to truly evaluate a Bama back. They play behind massive lines and thus you really have a hard time being able to see if they truly can deal with the size of holes and gaps in the NFL. Elliot was so freaking complete. A lot of really successful people rated him as the best back to be out in years. You have the guy who had Faulk compare him with Faulk. Comparisons to Ladamian Tomilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Should be one of Robinson/Reed/Ogbah/Dodd/Jones there in the second, not to mention Bullard and Calhoun. Any could probably slot in as a DE starter (though some are better 4-3 fits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Should be one of Robinson/Reed/Ogbah/Dodd/Jones there in the second, not to mention Bullard and Calhoun. Any could probably slot in as a DE starter (though some are better 4-3 fits). Not too sure about Ogbah and Calhoun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I don't think they are even comparable backs. Elliot is so much more talented. Huge gap . I also have limited faith in the ability to truly evaluate a Bama back. They play behind massive lines and thus you really have a hard time being able to see if they truly can deal with the size of holes and gaps in the NFL. Elliot was so freaking complete. A lot of really successful people rated him as the best back to be out in years. You have the guy who had Faulk compare him with Faulk. Comparisons to Ladamian Tomilson. We shall see in a few years. Of course, the team they go to has a lot to do with it, but I don't believe there is a huge gap. Elliott is definitely set up for success right now with Dallas and their awesome OL. Henry has a 37" vert, 130" broad, and an 11.5 60-second shuttle. Those are explosive numbers. And he's 6'3", 240lbs of muscle. Compare that to Elliott who had a 32.5" vert and a 118" broad, and you'd think Elliott was the bigger man. He's 3 inches shorter and 15-20lbs lighter. The only real advantage I give Elliott is in pass catching. Otherwise, I think Henry is just as good or better. I know Henry is stronger for sure, and the combine numbers say he's more explosive. 4.47 forty compared to a 4.54 forty could just be a matter of better form in the particular race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Henry in the 2nd makes more sense than Elliott in the 1st. Their talent is not that far apart, and getting him a round later is a huge bonus. He's going to be a monster. I still think he'll be better than Elliott in the NFL. Having said that, I don't want him in the 2nd. Too many good 5T guys there. Too many good SS guys there. Too many OTs there. All three positions are more important than RB right now for the Bears. Add that having Henry in a RBC set up AND the Bears were willing to persue a back like CJ Anderson (not all that flashy himself) it makes a lot more sense than getting Zeke in round 1. Most of you have said that DLmen is deep in this draft so I'd be willing to bet you could still find a good enough one in round three or four. OLmen = meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 With so many DTs and DEs still sitting there I see some teams willing to trade up to get one. I think we'll trade back and try to gain back the 4th Rd pick pick we lost, or at least a 5th Rd pick. In my mind we should be taking one of the DTs that fell out of the 1st Rd: Reed, Robinson, or Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Derrick Henry, a DL, Alexander, or the other Henry. I'd prefer Derrick over everyone. He's huge with breakaway speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 With runs on everything but DL, I'm fine waiting until the third for a 5t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I would be good with DL, OL, or DB (CB or S). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Players with a 5.8 Grade or higher on NFL.com: QB: Cook RB: Henry, Howard WR: Shepard, Boyd, Peake, Thomas TE: Henry OL: Whitehair, Clark, Coleman, Westerman, Spriggs DL: Robinson, Dodd, Jones, Reed, Bullard, Ridgeway, Ogbah, Billings, Spence, Johnson, Henry, Correa LB: Jack, Ragland, Cravens, Fackrell CB: Alexander There are 30 players with a 5.8 or higher, and 12 of them are DL. So it looks like we could move down a few spots and still get a DL and maybe pickup a mid-round pick. Surprisingly, the scores are pretty accurate as no player was selected in the first round with a score lower than 5.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Players with a 5.8 Grade or higher on NFL.com: QB: Cook RB: Henry, Howard WR: Shepard, Boyd, Peake, Thomas TE: Henry OL: Whitehair, Clark, Coleman, Westerman, Spriggs DL: Robinson, Dodd, Jones, Reed, Bullard, Ridgeway, Ogbah, Billings, Spence, Johnson, Henry, Correa LB: Jack, Ragland, Cravens, Fackrell CB: Alexander There are 30 players with a 5.8 or higher, and 12 of them are DL. So it looks like we could move down a few spots and still get a DL and maybe pickup a mid-round pick. Surprisingly, the scores are pretty accurate as no player was selected in the first round with a score lower than 5.8. If we look at all the mocks that were out there, the results show most people have no idea what there talking about. We think teams are reaching for a player because they drafted somebody we didnt see in a first round draft. I would say the mockers had it wrong not the teams. So in the second round we can get a very good player. TE is a spot we could upgrade and Henry is being compared to Greg Olson( I could live with that pick) S- Vonn Bell is the highest rated FS by most mocks and would be a good pick at a position of need. DL- many choices here-Robinson-Reed-Cris Jones-Andrew Billings-Bullard-Day-Austin Johnson RB- Henry-Dixon-Perkins-Howard CB-Alexander I think if we can get Cris Jones-Jarron Reed- Andrew Billings- we should pull the trigger. Dont be surprised if we grab Vonn Bell/FS Hunter Henry/TE Alexander/CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 DL- many choices here-Robinson-Reed-Cris Jones-Andrew Billings-Bullard-Day-Austin Johnson I think if we can get Cris Jones-Jarron Reed- Andrew Billings- we should pull the trigger. Finding a 5T is my top priority now. I would like to see them enhance the Floyd selection with another big oline eater. I wouldn't trade down too far with my eyes on Jarron Reed or Chris Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Finding a 5T is my top priority now. I would like to see them enhance the Floyd selection with another big oline eater. I wouldn't trade down too far with my eyes on Jarron Reed or Chris Jones. If we want point of attack power DTs that are run stuffers: Reed Robinson Jones Billings Bullard If we want a 5T with pass rush abilities: Ogbah Kaufusi Nassib Hargrave Dodd I think we valve speed the top 5: Spence Ogbah Dodd Bullard Knaufusi Here is my top 5 that rate as speed, run stuffer, pass rush Reed is highest rated run stuffer with pass rush upside Jones can play run and has upside with pass rush Billings can do both Bullard keeps popping up at all areas of good traits Kaufusi keeps popping up at all areas of good traits Surprise picks Bullard- run stuffer, pass rush ability Billings -power and interior push Kaufusi-speed and production Jason Hargrave/DT from South Carolina State 13 1/2 sacks last year Shelton Day/DT he ranked only 2nd to Buckner in all defensive stats for a DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 If we want point of attack power DTs that are run stuffers: Reed Robinson Jones Billings Bullard If we want a 5T with pass rush abilities: Ogbah Kaufusi Nassib Hargrave Dodd I think we valve speed the top 5: Spence Ogbah Dodd Bullard Knaufusi Here is my top 5 that rate as speed, run stuffer, pass rush Reed is highest rated run stuffer with pass rush upside Jones can play run and has upside with pass rush Billings can do both Bullard keeps popping up at all areas of good traits Kaufusi keeps popping up at all areas of good traits Surprise picks Bullard- run stuffer, pass rush ability Billings -power and interior push Kaufusi-speed and production Jason Hargrave/DT from South Carolina State 13 1/2 sacks last year Shelton Day/DT he ranked only 2nd to Buckner in all defensive stats for a DL The 6 players that would make the biggest impact for our team(in no particular order) Hunter Henry/TE adds a healthy move TE most compared to Greg Olson Derrick Henry/RB bruising back that would add to a RBC Darrin Reed/5T would add stablity to DL Cris Jones/5T would complete our front DL Mackenzie Alexander/CB would start day one in our Nickel package on defense Vonn Bell/FS would start as a rookie to add to Amos tandem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Finding a 5T is my top priority now. I would like to see them enhance the Floyd selection with another big oline eater. I wouldn't trade down too far with my eyes on Jarron Reed or Chris Jones. Agreed. Although I'd include Robinson in that mix. I'd be real happy with any of them. I'd also be happy with Henry, Vonn Bell, Dereck Henry, or Hunter Henry. We're going to get a real good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hunter Henry Derrick Henry Le'Raven Clark Vonn Bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I don't see how they could pass up on Hunter Henry if he's there. I mean, can anybody here name the Bears #2 TE on the roster right now? When Zach Miller inevitably gets hurt again, the Bears will have no reliable TE to replace him. If this Hunter kid is suppose to be far and away the best TE in the draft, the Bears really need to seriously consider him with their second pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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