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If I'm not mistaken your original statement was:

 

"Hoyer and Cutler are pretty close in skill set"

 

From an athletic standpoint I just don't see it. I show highlights of passes that Cutler can make that Hoyer will never be able to throw. You have morphed the discussion from your original statement to one now where we talk about decision making. I didn't watch a single Houston game last year. I have seen Hoyer is several Cardinals games and Browns games. None of them impressed me at all. Hoyer is now on his 5th team after being a starter for 3 teams. As a backup he is better than anyone we could have drafted. He is not better than Cutler.

 

You know this to be a fact: John Fox will start the best players. If Hoyer is better than Cutler he'll be our starter in week 1 and for the rest of the season.

 

Actually the highlights I showed you of Hoyer does in fact show his ability to hit the receiver in tight coverage. Does it a few times in fact. Does it short, medium and long range. Those were the comparisons I was talking about. Trouble is when you compare the two (for example) throw a Hail Mary pass, Cutler gets an INT, Hoyer does not.

 

Yep I agree. Fox will in fact start the best of the two.

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Actually the highlights I showed you of Hoyer does in fact show his ability to hit the receiver in tight coverage. Does it a few times in fact. Does it short, medium and long range. Those were the comparisons I was talking about. Trouble is when you compare the two (for example) throw a Hail Mary pass, Cutler gets an INT, Hoyer does not.

 

Yep I agree. Fox will in fact start the best of the two.

Wow, you pick a few highlights and make that a career statement?

Well lets see, Cutler has started every year of his career. Hoyer has yet to start a full year for anybody.

Hoyer 2 mil----Cutler 17 mil

Cutler actually has been to a pro bowl---Hoyer - stellar career

 

Year Games Played Passing Rushing Fumbles

Comp/Att Pct Yards TD INT Sacked Rating Att Yards Avg TD Total Lost

2012 2 30/53 56.6% 330 1 2 4 65.8 1 6 6.0 0 1 0

2013 3 57/96 59.4% 615 5 3 6 82.6 6 16 2.7 0 0 0

2014 14 242/438 55.3% 3326 12 13 24 76.5 24 39 1.6 0 4 1

2015 11 224/369 60.7% 2606 19 7 25 91.4 15 44 2.9 0 6 2

 

 

 

 

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With the releases of Slauson and Rolle, their free agency approach (almost all young players) and they way the Bears drafted and even got an extra pick, I think it's clear Pace is playing to long game, not expecting to be that great this year, but instead looking probably two years ahead. Right now, it's entirely possible the Bears won't have a starter over the age of 30 except Cutler. The Bears may be playing the long game figuring it will situate them to go into next year's draft and target one of the QBs in a stronger QB draft (Deshaun Watson, Brad Kaaya, etc.) and have a good young team grow together going forward.

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With the releases of Slauson and Rolle, their free agency approach (almost all young players) and they way the Bears drafted and even got an extra pick, I think it's clear Pace is playing to long game, not expecting to be that great this year, but instead looking probably two years ahead. Right now, it's entirely possible the Bears won't have a starter over the age of 30 except Cutler. The Bears may be playing the long game figuring it will situate them to go into next year's draft and target one of the QBs in a stronger QB draft (Deshaun Watson, Brad Kaaya, etc.) and have a good young team grow together going forward.

I just seen info that we have an offer out to Obien Schonfield/OLB that is a still a FA.

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With the releases of Slauson and Rolle, their free agency approach (almost all young players) and they way the Bears drafted and even got an extra pick, I think it's clear Pace is playing to long game, not expecting to be that great this year, but instead looking probably two years ahead. Right now, it's entirely possible the Bears won't have a starter over the age of 30 except Cutler. The Bears may be playing the long game figuring it will situate them to go into next year's draft and target one of the QBs in a stronger QB draft (Deshaun Watson, Brad Kaaya, etc.) and have a good young team grow together going forward.

I just seen info that we have an offer out to Obien Schonfield/OLB that is a still a FA.

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With the releases of Slauson and Rolle, their free agency approach (almost all young players) and they way the Bears drafted and even got an extra pick, I think it's clear Pace is playing to long game, not expecting to be that great this year, but instead looking probably two years ahead. Right now, it's entirely possible the Bears won't have a starter over the age of 30 except Cutler. The Bears may be playing the long game figuring it will situate them to go into next year's draft and target one of the QBs in a stronger QB draft (Deshaun Watson, Brad Kaaya, etc.) and have a good young team grow together going forward.

Watson/Kaaya will take the #1 overall pick. I see the more like 20-25 and taking OLT, TE, or QB.

Gunner Kiel or Joshua Dobbs for qb maybe?

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Man are we going to take the field with 6 LBs?

 

No but we were working to trade either of Young or Houston. I don't see Houston getting cut but Young could very well get replaced. FWIW Schofield made Sam Acho replaceable on the Cardinals a few years ago. He's a good "effort" player but not that talented athletically. If that is the plan I'd just prefer to keep Willie Young on the roster unless we get a good offer for him.

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We will be in a 4-3 quite a bit. At that point our 3-4 OLB will become DE, giving us 5 LB on the field. I think we'll keep a high amount of LB on the roster.

Houston and McPhee,and probably Floyd could slide up on the line without changing personal.

 

I think we have the 3 inside Nick-Tevanthan and Freeman

6 outside Floyd,McPhee, Houston,Young,Roberson-Harris and maybe Ocho

Ocho may get cut and then probably could keep Timu

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