AZ54 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/re...ners-jay-cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/re...ners-jay-cutler Ha ha very ? Not that anyone will believe this but I do hope he goes out somewhere in style. Perhaps he'll get signed on with a team as a backup (Tennessee?) and makes it to the Super Bowl before he hangs it up? I really didn't hate the guy, just the way he played most times. Wasn't there another thread about this somewhere? I still think the Bears are gonna end up releasing him in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Ha ha very ? Not that anyone will believe this but I do hope he goes out somewhere in style. Perhaps he'll get signed on with a team as a backup (Tennessee?) and makes it to the Super Bowl before he hangs it up? I really didn't hate the guy, just the way he played most times. Wasn't there another thread about this somewhere? I still think the Bears are gonna end up releasing him in the end. Right now there's not much of a market so if we get anything at all in exchange it'll be a welcome deal. I always felt teams would be more likely to trade for him after the draft once they see how things ended up. Everyone more or less knew Cutler was gone this year but for Pace to jump on this so early is significant. It may mean he likes at least two of the young QBs in this draft and will take either one who is on the board. There's a lot going on in the off-season QB market right now between Romo, Garoppolo, and Taylor. There is some speculation that SF might give up two 1st Rd picks for Cousins. We know Washington hasn't been sold on Cousins as a franchise QB, but if that happens what does Washington do? If Gruden feels the offense's success is more his system, and that he can get Cutler to do what Gase was able to do with him, then having four 1st Rd picks in the next two drafts plus another 8-10mil in cap space could be tempting. That would also position Washington in a good spot with the QBs in next years draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 It will suck if we just cut him and get absolutely nothing in return for how many picks we gave up for him originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 If he's cut and signs elsewhere...would we at all be eligible for anything compensatory? It will suck if we just cut him and get absolutely nothing in return for how many picks we gave up for him originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 If he's cut and signs elsewhere...would we at all be eligible for anything compensatory? I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm pretty sure it only applies to free agents. If the Bears were unable to sign Alshon, then that would apply. But if they cut a guy, I don't think that applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 It will suck if we just cut him and get absolutely nothing in return for how many picks we gave up for him originally. I think everyone knows the team doesn't plan on going forward with him. Those that may have an eye on him will wait to see if any interest is garnered. Remember this isn't the first time he's been 'shopped'. A team like NE could consider it (extremely high possibility of no) if they were to lose Garrappolo (and get draft picks in exchange) then losing a sixth or seventh in a trade wouldn't feel so wasteful. You know NE does have a knack for turning turds into stars so why not Jay? Of course this is a wild hypothesis and more of just a 'for example'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 That makes sense... I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm pretty sure it only applies to free agents. If the Bears were unable to sign Alshon, then that would apply. But if they cut a guy, I don't think that applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 LA radio seems to think he ends up here. I don't know if they would actually trade for him or if everyone presumes he will be cut. It seems to me that the Bears are not going to let this drag out with Jay...they are going to test his market now and at some point, probably sooner vs. later cut him. I think they believe it is the right thing in terms of how to handle their business with Jay (so that he has a fair chance to find another job). Biggest mistake we made was not dealing him a year ago. I think the front office knew he wasn't the long-term answer and while they had some belief in him short-term, we could have traded him at a high and went after the QB we wanted (they also obviously tried the year before when they wanted Mariotta). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 LA radio seems to think he ends up here. I don't know if they would actually trade for him or if everyone presumes he will be cut. It seems to me that the Bears are not going to let this drag out with Jay...they are going to test his market now and at some point, probably sooner vs. later cut him. I think they believe it is the right thing in terms of how to handle their business with Jay (so that he has a fair chance to find another job). Biggest mistake we made was not dealing him a year ago. I think the front office knew he wasn't the long-term answer and while they had some belief in him short-term, we could have traded him at a high and went after the QB we wanted (they also obviously tried the year before when they wanted Mariotta). Woulda , coulda, shoulda, cant change that now. They thought this year they would be going maybe 9-7, didnt know they would suck this bad, so they took there best option at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Bill Polian was on Sirius and said that if Cutler was released, he would be the best option of the available free agents. He also said he would take McCarron over any of the QB's in the draft fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Bill Polian was on Sirius and said that if Cutler was released, he would be the best option of the available free agents. He also said he would take McCarron over any of the QB's in the draft fwiw. That is why I think the Bears get something out of him. Seems like the Jets are the best option because they have young QBs to groom and have to decide how to shave cap space. Mohammed Wilkerson or Sheldon Richardson at DT or how about Ryan Clady at OT? Would swapping 1st and Cutler for Wilkerson and Clady be an option? Just brainstorming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I saw a report that Cutler might just retire. If true, what that means is he really just wants to play for a contender. That could also mean he's no longer in it for money (he's made quite a bit thank you Phil Emery) and he will renegotiate his contract if he can find the right team. With this being released to everyone then it is quite possible Cutler already has his agent shopping some contract terms with possible suitors. If he's willing to come in and play somewhere for less than $10mil, or really work a team friendly deal, then there is going to be some interest. He'd be a good short-term fit in Houston who has the defense to cover his mistakes but also has the weapons to take advantage of his arm strength. Will Fuller V would be running a lot of deep routes. Hopkins? Say what you want but he's far better than Osweiller and less of health risk than Romo's back issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 That is why I think the Bears get something out of him. Seems like the Jets are the best option because they have young QBs to groom and have to decide how to shave cap space. Mohammed Wilkerson or Sheldon Richardson at DT or how about Ryan Clady at OT? Would swapping 1st and Cutler for Wilkerson and Clady be an option? Just brainstorming... Clady has not played well since his injury or people wouldnt be getting rid of him. He is not worth including in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 The thing that stinks about this entire situation is that Cutler is not the guy Chicago wants, but he's probably the best option for the money. -Rookies all have question marks, and are rookies -Romo is Mr. Glass, and won't last an entire season -Garrapolo is relatively unknown, won't have NE, will cost too much in trade, and will require a big contract -Tyrod Taylor is barely better than Hoyer -Cousins is better, but he will cost a ton of money. The difference in money versus production is up for debate. After all, he had 25 TDs and 12 INTs last year. He'll cost $5-$6M more per year than Cutler, and Cutler put up similar TD/INT numbers the last two years he was healthy (2015: 21/11, 2014: 28/18). -Fitzpatrick has a cool beard, but other than that Cutler is better. -The other guys (Glennon, Kapernick, RGIII) are not as good as Cutler. And EVERYONE knows the Bears are essentially going to release Cutler, so there is no reason to trade for him. Watch him get released and then a bidding war ensues between a few teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 The thing that stinks about this entire situation is that Cutler is not the guy Chicago wants, but he's probably the best option for the money. -Rookies all have question marks, and are rookies -Romo is Mr. Glass, and won't last an entire season -Garrapolo is relatively unknown, won't have NE, will cost too much in trade, and will require a big contract -Tyrod Taylor is barely better than Hoyer -Cousins is better, but he will cost a ton of money. The difference in money versus production is up for debate. After all, he had 25 TDs and 12 INTs last year. He'll cost $5-$6M more per year than Cutler, and Cutler put up similar TD/INT numbers the last two years he was healthy (2015: 21/11, 2014: 28/18). -Fitzpatrick has a cool beard, but other than that Cutler is better. -The other guys (Glennon, Kapernick, RGIII) are not as good as Cutler. And EVERYONE knows the Bears are essentially going to release Cutler, so there is no reason to trade for him. Watch him get released and then a bidding war ensues between a few teams. Front office only has themselves to blame. They were the ones that ignored the QB position each of the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 As Bill Murray said in "Meatballs"..."It just doesn't matter!" Sometimes you have a girlfriend who has all the right potential...but you just can't stand going on vacation with her. It's time to move on. The next girl may not be better. But at least she's different...and has the potential to be "the one". I think the Bears (and many fans) are simply done with this particular "girlfriend". And at worst, the next girl is the stepping stone to the next one... But this one has worn our her welcome. The thing that stinks about this entire situation is that Cutler is not the guy Chicago wants, but he's probably the best option for the money. -Rookies all have question marks, and are rookies -Romo is Mr. Glass, and won't last an entire season -Garrapolo is relatively unknown, won't have NE, will cost too much in trade, and will require a big contract -Tyrod Taylor is barely better than Hoyer -Cousins is better, but he will cost a ton of money. The difference in money versus production is up for debate. After all, he had 25 TDs and 12 INTs last year. He'll cost $5-$6M more per year than Cutler, and Cutler put up similar TD/INT numbers the last two years he was healthy (2015: 21/11, 2014: 28/18). -Fitzpatrick has a cool beard, but other than that Cutler is better. -The other guys (Glennon, Kapernick, RGIII) are not as good as Cutler. And EVERYONE knows the Bears are essentially going to release Cutler, so there is no reason to trade for him. Watch him get released and then a bidding war ensues between a few teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 As Bill Murray said in "Meatballs"..."It just doesn't matter!" Sometimes you have a girlfriend who has all the right potential...but you just can't stand going on vacation with her. It's time to move on. The next girl may not be better. But at least she's different...and has the potential to be "the one". I think the Bears (and many fans) are simply done with this particular "girlfriend". And at worst, the next girl is the stepping stone to the next one... But this one has worn our her welcome. Agreed 1000%. It is time to move on. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 As Bill Murray said in "Meatballs"..."It just doesn't matter!" Sometimes you have a girlfriend who has all the right potential...but you just can't stand going on vacation with her. It's time to move on. The next girl may not be better. But at least she's different...and has the potential to be "the one". I think the Bears (and many fans) are simply done with this particular "girlfriend". And at worst, the next girl is the stepping stone to the next one... But this one has worn our her welcome. Im thinking a slutty girlfriend this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 That's always fun...but usually short lived! Im thinking a slutty girlfriend this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I didn't see it posted, but there was a report that indicated Jay Cutler will not accept a trade anywhere and he will just retire if the team trades him. Basically, he wants to pick where he wants to go (and if not, he'll retire). No idea if the report was true as I didn't see it get much play (was a bleacherreport...Jason Cole I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 If we are going to trade Jay, combine would be the likely time that something could go down (also could be when we acquire a QB...lots of wheeling and dealing expected to at the very least be discussed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 If we are going to trade Jay, combine would be the likely time that something could go down (also could be when we acquire a QB...lots of wheeling and dealing expected to at the very least be discussed). I think there will be discussions at the combine, mainly Cutler's agent shopping him around and talking with teams about contract terms. I don't think we'll see any movement on the trade front, if it happens at all, until closer to the draft. Cutler is still rehabbing from his surgery and I'm not sure how soon he can throw. Then I think there are other pieces in the QB market that have to fall in place first: Romo, Garoppolo, and most importantly Cousins. Pace could release Cutler outright but I would expect that only if there were something cap wise that made it a compelling decision. I think he just has a roster bonus now that pays only during the season but maybe there is something in the contract relative to the start of the league year. For now I think Pace hangs on hoping to get a late round draft pick out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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