Interesting take on Glennon

[ASHKUM BEAR]

Sage Rosenthals breaks down Osweiler and Glennon signings and says the Bears invested wisely.

http://www.thescore.com/news/1254088

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Sage Rosenthals breaks down Osweiler and Glennon signings and says the Bears invested wisely.

http://www.thescore.com/news/1254088

 

Just because I'm curious I did some 'comparative shopping'. First thing I noticed is that overall Sage made the same observations most of us did, especially with regards to the contract. And to think, this guy gets paid to do this. Haha.

 

Next thing I did was a quick look at Glennon, Osweiler and Cutler (because I'm a glutton) stats. Particularly TD%, completion % and TD/INT ratio.

 

Osweiler: 59.9% completion rate of 5,038 career yards with 26 TDs to 22 INTs for a TD% of 3.2

 

Glennon: 59.4% completion rate of 4,011 career yards with 30 TDs to 15 INTs for a TD% of 3.2

 

Cutler: 61.9% completion rate of 32,467 career yards with 208 TDs to 146 INTs for TD% of 4.6

 

Something else that is eerily similar to Glennon and Osweiler besides some of the stats up above are they both 6'7" with some slight weight disparity. Glennon being the bean pole at 227# and Ossy coming in at 240#. Anyhow, after it's all said and done yes the Bears did better contractually. Question now is did they do better in talent evaluation?

 

Ossy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OsweBr00.htm

 

Glennon: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GlenMi00.htm

 

Cutler: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00.htm

 

 

 

 

 

[jason]

Just because I'm curious I did some 'comparative shopping'. First thing I noticed is that overall Sage made the same observations most of us did, especially with regards to the contract. And to think, this guy gets paid to do this. Haha.

 

Next thing I did was a quick look at Glennon, Osweiler and Cutler (because I'm a glutton) stats. Particularly TD%, completion % and TD/INT ratio.

 

Osweiler: 59.9% completion rate of 5,038 career yards with 26 TDs to 22 INTs for a TD% of 3.2

 

Glennon: 59.4% completion rate of 4,011 career yards with 30 TDs to 15 INTs for a TD% of 3.2

 

Cutler: 61.9% completion rate of 32,467 career yards with 208 TDs to 146 INTs for TD% of 4.6

 

Something else that is eerily similar to Glennon and Osweiler besides some of the stats up above are they both 6'7" with some slight weight disparity. Glennon being the bean pole at 227# and Ossy coming in at 240#. Anyhow, after it's all said and done yes the Bears did better contractually. Question now is did they do better in talent evaluation?

 

Ossy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OsweBr00.htm

 

Glennon: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GlenMi00.htm

 

Cutler: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00.htm

 

So are you saying the Bears would be better off with Cutler?

[ASHKUM BEAR]

So are you saying the Bears would be better off with Cutler?

 

Now Alaska sees the light

 

 

 

 

 

[lemonej]

We can find stats to support any cause! I wonder how many of those ints were pick 6's?

[AZ54]

The only thing I know is that Glennon is equally deserving of a chance to be a starter as any of the top QBs in this draft. That and he's a better option than Hoyer albeit a much more expensive one. We've already danced with Hoyer and it wouldn't be any more fun in year 2.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

Just because I'm curious I did some 'comparative shopping'. First thing I noticed is that overall Sage made the same observations most of us did, especially with regards to the contract. And to think, this guy gets paid to do this. Haha. Next thing I did was a quick look at Glennon, Osweiler and Cutler (because I'm a glutton) stats. Particularly TD%, completion % and TD/INT ratio. Osweiler: 59.9% completion rate of 5,038 career yards with 26 TDs to 22 INTs for a TD% of 3.2 Glennon: 59.4% completion rate of 4,011 career yards with 30 TDs to 15 INTs for a TD% of 3.2 Cutler: 61.9% completion rate of 32,467 career yards with 208 TDs to 146 INTs for TD% of 4.6 Something else that is eerily similar to Glennon and Osweiler besides some of the stats up above are they both 6'7" with some slight weight disparity. Glennon being the bean pole at 227# and Ossy coming in at 240#. Anyhow, after it's all said and done yes the Bears did better contractually. Question now is did they do better in talent evaluation? Ossy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OsweBr00.htm Glennon: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GlenMi00.htm Cutler: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00.htm

 

Rookie stats, added thoughts:

 

comp att % yds tds ints rating

 

Player1: 247 416 59.4% 2608 19 9 83.9

 

Player2: 339 627 54.1% 4374 23 18 76.5

 

One was drafted as a sure thing and is considered "elite" the other was drafted RD3 as a project. Both played most games their rookie season. Player two is Andrew Luck, it took him a couple years to settle in and to produce at elite levels. Glennon, was in a better balanced offense but poorly talented team and put up solid numbers. For some reason, they pulled the plug on letting him grow and eventually took Winston, they should have stuck with Glennon and drafted Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams.

 

 

[jason]

Rookie stats, added thoughts:

 

comp att % yds tds ints rating

 

Player1: 247 416 59.4% 2608 19 9 83.9

 

Player2: 339 627 54.1% 4374 23 18 76.5

 

One was drafted as a sure thing and is considered "elite" the other was drafted RD3 as a project. Both played most games their rookie season. Player two is Andrew Luck, it took him a couple years to settle in and to produce at elite levels. Glennon, was in a better balanced offense but poorly talented team and put up solid numbers. For some reason, they pulled the plug on letting him grow and eventually took Winston, they should have stuck with Glennon and drafted Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams.

 

For some reason. <_>

 

For some reason.

 

For some reason!?!

 

For some reason?

 

[BearFan PHX]

Glennon

2016 10/11 90.9% 75yds 6.8avg 1 TD (9.1%) 0 INT (0%) Rating 125.4 (sample too small)

2014 117/203 57.6% 1,417yds 7.0avg 10 TD (4.9%) 6 INT (3%) Rating 83.3

2013 247/416 59.4% 2,608yds 6.3avg 19 TD (4.6%) 9 INT (2.2%) Rating 83.9

 

Career 374/630 59.4% 4,100yds 6.5avg 30 TD (4.8%) 15 INT (2.4%) Rating 84.6

 

Cutler

2016 81/137 59.1% 1,059yds 7.7avg 4 TD (2.9%) 5 INT (3.6%) Rating 78.1 (small sample)

2015 311/483 64.4% 3,659yds 7.6avg 21 TD (4.3%) 11 INT (2.3%) Rating 92.3

2014 370/561 66% 3,812yds 6.8avg 28 TD (5%) 18 INT (3.2%) Rating 88.6

2013 224/355 63.1% 2,6,21yds 7.4avg 19 TD (5.4%) 12 INT (3.4%) Rating 89.2

 

Career 2,782/4,491 61.9% 32,467 7.2avg 208 TD (4.6%) 146INT (3.3%) Rating 85.7

 

When it's all said and done:

 

Cutler is 3% more accurate

Cutler throws 15% longer passes

Glennon throws 4% more TDs per pass

Cutler throws 38% more INTs per pass

 

So Cutler and Glennon have similar skill sets, but Cutler throws longer more often, resulting in higher yards per pass, and significantly more interceptions, but not more TDs.

 

A guy like Brett Favre throws long risky passes, but he wins a lot of them too, so lots of interceptions and lots of TDs. Cutler doesn't really throw more TDs than Glennon, he just takes more risks.

[Alaskan Grizzly]

So are you saying the Bears would be better off with Cutler?

 

Haha!! If I thought you were serious I'd still have to laugh.

 

Obviously there's a lot more career data to draw from Cutler than there are Ossy and Glennon. I'd be curious to see where Cutlers stats measured up at the same time where Glennon is now. (I'm too lazy to do that). But I see NYC did a pretty good job of extrapolating the stats to draw out the comparisons of Glennon and Cutler overall. (Nicely done). From that it looks like Glennon is more the 'game manager' that we need (and had with Orton). And that Glennon is only a bridge QB player for the next Franchise QB; whomever that may be.

[ChileBear]

For some reason. <_>

 

For some reason.

 

For some reason!?!

 

For some reason?

Oh, Lovie, the QB Guru!!!!!!

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Another positive about Glennon coming to Chicago. It got Rodgers a little pissy.

 

http://sportsmockery.com/2017/03/the-bears...-aaron-rodgers/