ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Which player would you regret NOT drafting if we can fast forward two years after this draft. Looking for the player that by 2019 is a probowler or our biggest difference maker. Asking for the regret because a prospect can develop into a better pro than his slotted draft rank or may not even be one of our current needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Which player would you regret NOT drafting if we can fast forward two years after this draft. Looking for the player that by 2019 is a probowler or our biggest difference maker. Asking for the regret because a prospect can develop into a better pro than his slotted draft rank or may not even be one of our current needs. O J Howard, I think he is a prime time player, and because he is not slated a top 5, I think he is one of the top 5 players that will come out of this draft. If anybody had the chance to draft Gronk in his prime, he would be worth a #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Which player would you regret NOT drafting if we can fast forward two years after this draft. Looking for the player that by 2019 is a probowler or our biggest difference maker. Asking for the regret because a prospect can develop into a better pro than his slotted draft rank or may not even be one of our current needs. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm going with Deshaun Watson. Two weeks ago I would have thought drafting him at #3 was crazy. But the closer we get--the more I think we'd be crazy not to take him. I don't think he'll ever be a pro-bowler, but he'll be a damn good quarterback and our biggest difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Corey Davis. I think he's the next Megatron or Moss. But he's nowhere near where the Bears will pick unless he drops to the early second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 As far as player we are most likely to regret passing on, I would say Malik Hooker, but I keep hearing a great safety still isn't worth a top pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm going with Deshaun Watson. Two weeks ago I would have thought drafting him at #3 was crazy. But the closer we get--the more I think we'd be crazy not to take him. I don't think he'll ever be a pro-bowler, but he'll be a damn good quarterback and our biggest difference maker. I'm with you... (aside from not believing I would 'say this'). And Reuben Foster. ? I know this isn't the question but I still really really hope that GB doesn't end up with Leonard Fournette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Malik Hooker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Watson our Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Malik Hooker. I didn't have time to expand upon this but between the top 2 safeties Hooker's potentially elite coverage skills and particularly hard to find. I love Adams but you can find safeties that are closer to his skills than you can find players with close to Hooker's skills. The flip side is that the vast majority of plays in the NFL are within 10 yards of the LOS and that's where Adams wins the day. Yet there is something very enticing about being able to negate Rodgers, or Stafford's deep throws after they scramble. Then when I think the single high safety makes it easier to put another man in the box at the snap, which yields much of the benefit Adams can provide, and it's very tempting to just take the type of player in Hooker that few teams in the NFL will ever have on their roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I didn't have time to expand upon this but between the top 2 safeties Hooker's potentially elite coverage skills and particularly hard to find. I love Adams but you can find safeties that are closer to his skills than you can find players with close to Hooker's skills. The flip side is that the vast majority of plays in the NFL are within 10 yards of the LOS and that's where Adams wins the day. Yet there is something very enticing about being able to negate Rodgers, or Stafford's deep throws after they scramble. Then when I think the single high safety makes it easier to put another man in the box at the snap, which yields much of the benefit Adams can provide, and it's very tempting to just take the type of player in Hooker that few teams in the NFL will ever have on their roster. I believe Hooker would be our pick if not for the injury concerns, after White and some issues with Floyd last year, they have to draft a clean player. Hooker may end up not having injury issues, but hard to ignore it before the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I believe Hooker would be our pick if not for the injury concerns, after White and some issues with Floyd last year, they have to draft a clean player. Hooker may end up not having injury issues, but hard to ignore it before the draft. I feel the same way. The fact that he can't even work out is huge, especially for a one year wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I feel the same way. The fact that he can't even work out is huge, especially for a one year wonder. That's why I'd prefer Adams to either Allen or Hooker. Not that all three won't have a big impact on their teams. I'd prefer going with the one with fewer question marks. As for who we'd regret not taking hard to predict even immediate impact much less 2 years from now but if your talking long term I'd say Watson or Keizer. I think both will need some grooming but I think both have bright futures as starters. I'll also throw Adams into the group because I feel like he could be one of those rare enforcers at safety. Allen and Hooker qualify too as teams will pass possibly/likely pass on them due to questions about health, and they may go on to have long productive careers. Risk/reward. It's also hard to know how this draft will go anyone we name here could be someone we draft. It'd be an interesting question to ask after the draft knowing who we passed on. Definitely can't wait for the draft day to be here to find out how it all goes down. It's like waiting to open presents on Christmas/birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 My main beef with Adams is he's a SS. While they say he could play the other poison... Do I really want to see a number three overall selection playing out of position? I personally believe that Maye is a better Prospect than Hooker. What's your FS rankings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 O J Howard, I think he is a prime time player, and because he is not slated a top 5, I think he is one of the top 5 players that will come out of this draft. If anybody had the chance to draft Gronk in his prime, he would be worth a #1 pick. I held out putting a player in to see what answers come out. There are multiple names which makes it interesting. I am liking some of these answers. I think Howard and Hooker will be big time, they offer rare abilities. Corey Davis has the tools to be a top 5 WR too. My feeling is Deshaun Kizer will be the QB that rises to the top when we look back at this class. Just a feeling, maybe it's my ND bias being a huge fan. That will be my player, I know 3 is way too high, but my bet is placed. Two years down the road I may be shaking my head and hoping this stays buried. No beef on Watson either, provide a strong run game and set a passing game to his strengths and he can be successful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 My main beef with Adams is he's a SS. While they say he could play the other poison... Do I really want to see a number three overall selection playing out of position? I personally believe that Maye is a better Prospect than Hooker. What's your FS rankings? Not sure if you've been able to watch any of his games but LSU used Adams all over the field. He played NB, CB, SS, FS. His elite traits in the box led to him being used more often around the LOS but he's not Jabril Peppers and can definitely cover WRs or TEs. Is he the elite single high FS that Hooker can be? Probably not but Hooker is a rare talent too. Adams has more than enough skills (speed, agility) along with his study habits and leadership to get everyone else aligned pre-snap to be a very good FS. But at the same time he can fill a hole at the LOS scrimmage and stop a RB cold. Leonard Floyd's versatility gave Fangio flexibility around the LOS. Adams will do the same as a DB and we won't worry as much about matchups. 2 TE sets can be easily matched with Adams and Floyd out there either for run support or pass coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'll go put on a limb here and state that I've likely watched more LSU games than any other poster in our forum. In addition, I'll make the same claim about UF (obviously), State, Bama, Miami, Uganda, Tenn, Clemson, Louisville, or any other Sec program. I don't get to watch our Bears games unless they are prime time because I'm normally driving from Tally back to Gainesville on Sundays and depend on you all for the in depth stuff but I do get to listen to them on Sirius. Imo, a Gm should make it a priority to draft a Bama defensive player every year he holds that title. Also, I watch a load of Pac ten games as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I held out putting a player in to see what answers come out. There are multiple names which makes it interesting. I am liking some of these answers. I think Howard and Hooker will be big time, they offer rare abilities. Corey Davis has the tools to be a top 5 WR too. My feeling is Deshaun Kizer will be the QB that rises to the top when we look back at this class. It could be my ND bias being a huge fan. That will be my player, I know 3 is way too high, but my bet is placed. Two years down the road I may be shaking my head and hoping this stays buried. No beef on Watson either, provide a strong run game and set a passing game to his strengths and he can be successful too. http://walterfootball.com/draft2017positionreviewQB.php To go along with my pick, Walter did a nice write up on ranking the QBs in different categories which is interesting to read. His pick is Mahomes but in all of the rankings, Kizer or Trubisky win most of the categories. If you were to put a point scale on those ranks, it seems Kizer would win it all. His big beef with Kizer is some inconsistancies, which they all have. If we can persuade a team to trade up to 3 and we can take Kizer, I think we would have a gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Allen for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 For me it is Deshaun Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 For me it is Deshaun Watson That is who I think the Bears will pick (if he's there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 http://walterfootball.com/draft2017positionreviewQB.php To go along with my pick, Walter did a nice write up on ranking the QBs in different categories which is interesting to read. His pick is Mahomes but in all of the rankings, Kizer or Trubisky win most of the categories. If you were to put a point scale on those ranks, it seems Kizer would win it all. His big beef with Kizer is some inconsistancies, which they all have. If we can persuade a team to trade up to 3 and we can take Kizer, I think we would have a gem. Two months ago, there were 3 top QB's and Kizer was arguably the best. Now, everything I am seeing, Kizer is the clear #4. While it's. Not likely, it is possibly he's there for the Bears in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Two months ago, there were 3 top QB's and Kizer was arguably the best. Now, everything I am seeing, Kizer is the clear #4. While it's. Not likely, it is possibly he's there for the Bears in the 2nd round. That would work out good. He has the tools but is down for some reason. It may be his drive they are worried about, that is not as fixable as mechanics etc. All of his measurables are at the top in each category so seeing boards have him as a 2nd-3rd rounder are strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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