jason Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 For those who pay a little more attention to it than I do, does anyone see anything wrong with the following? Cut Mike Glennon, Dead Cap: 4500000, Cap Savings: 11500000 Cut Dion Sims, Dead Cap: 333334, Cap Savings: 5999999 Cut Bobby Massie, Dead Cap: 500000, Cap Savings: 5600000 Cut Markus Wheaton, Dead Cap: 750000, Cap Savings: 5000000 Total Cap Savings from these cuts is ~$28M. Current Cap is ~$40M. Total Cap after cuts ~$68M. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Sims already has a replacement on the roster. Wheaton already has a replacement on the roster. (has to be someone else with 1 reception) Glennon already has a replacement on the roster. Massie does not have a replacement on the roster. I don't mind if we upgrade one bit but I see no reason to cut him for just $5.6mil until we have that player on signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Sims already has a replacement on the roster. Wheaton already has a replacement on the roster. (has to be someone else with 1 reception) Glennon already has a replacement on the roster. Massie does not have a replacement on the roster. I don't mind if we upgrade one bit but I see no reason to cut him for just $5.6mil until we have that player on signed. I am not sold on moving on from Sims already. We have seen 5 games and 4 of those was with Glennon. This is a team that will line up 2-3 TEs in heavy run formations and Sims was brought in more so for blocking part. His receiving game was seen as adequate with a potential uptick. Miller will be gone next year, leaving Shaheen, Sims, and Brown/Braunicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 I am not sold on moving on from Sims already. We have seen 5 games and 4 of those was with Glennon. This is a team that will line up 2-3 TEs in heavy run formations and Sims was brought in more so for blocking part. His receiving game was seen as adequate with a potential uptick. Miller will be gone next year, leaving Shaheen, Sims, and Brown/Braunicker. Hopefully your joking about Sims. If not, I don't know what 4 receptions for 56 yards in 5 games does for you. He has less receptions than Cunningham and Thompson (who is not even on the team anymore). There is no way you can pay him that much for that production (or lack thereof). Why would Miller be gone, he is literally the only true receiving threat on this team and he is projected for career highs in receptions and yards. I would rather keep him than Sims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hopefully your joking about Sims. If not, I don't know what 4 receptions for 56 yards in 5 games does for you. He has less receptions than Cunningham and Thompson (who is not even on the team anymore). There is no way you can pay him that much for that production (or lack thereof). Why would Miller be gone, he is literally the only true receiving threat on this team and he is projected for career highs in receptions and yards. I would rather keep him than Sims. Miller is a FA after this season. Sims is only into 5 games and 4 of those were with Glennon. Why don't we wait until the end of the season before we assess. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 For those who pay a little more attention to it than I do, does anyone see anything wrong with the following? Cut Mike Glennon, Dead Cap: 4500000, Cap Savings: 11500000 Cut Dion Sims, Dead Cap: 333334, Cap Savings: 5999999 Cut Bobby Massie, Dead Cap: 500000, Cap Savings: 5600000 Cut Markus Wheaton, Dead Cap: 750000, Cap Savings: 5000000 Total Cap Savings from these cuts is ~$28M. Current Cap is ~$40M. Total Cap after cuts ~$68M. Is that right? I'm curious why you left off McPhee from the list? Part time players like him can't command $8mil. Oddly I'd be ok keeping Mark Sanchez around in 2018 for another $2mil. He's on a 1yr deal now. With Glennon gone keeping Sanchez in the QB room with Trubisky for another year might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 For those who pay a little more attention to it than I do, does anyone see anything wrong with the following? Cut Mike Glennon, Dead Cap: 4500000, Cap Savings: 11500000 Cut Dion Sims, Dead Cap: 333334, Cap Savings: 5999999 Cut Bobby Massie, Dead Cap: 500000, Cap Savings: 5600000 Cut Markus Wheaton, Dead Cap: 750000, Cap Savings: 5000000 Total Cap Savings from these cuts is ~$28M. Current Cap is ~$40M. Total Cap after cuts ~$68M. Is that right? I'm curious why you left off McPhee from the list? Part time players like him can't command $8mil. Oddly I'd be ok keeping Mark Sanchez around in 2018 for another $2mil. He's on a 1yr deal now. With Glennon gone keeping Sanchez in the QB room with Trubisky for another year might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 I'm curious why you left off McPhee from the list? Part time players like him can't command $8mil. Oddly I'd be ok keeping Mark Sanchez around in 2018 for another $2mil. He's on a 1yr deal now. With Glennon gone keeping Sanchez in the QB room with Trubisky for another year might not be a bad idea. Isn't McPhee's cap hit substantial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 We have more than enough cap left right now. It doesn't make sense cutting all these guys right now unless your bringing in someone who can provide a upgrade right away. Waiting until after the season is actually a better idea. It's not like we are going to be playoff contenders this yr any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Looking at this teams performance so far this year, it is obvious they need to add more to the offense side. Would Cam Meredith and Kevin White make much difference? I think next year they need one top tier WR FA addition, maybe Landry and a round 2-3 draft pick. They should also address the OT with two picks, one round 1 or 2 and one after rd 4. On D, I would like to see another OLB drafted between rounds 1-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Looking at this teams performance so far this year, it is obvious they need to add more to the offense side. Would Cam Meredith and Kevin White make much difference? I think next year they need one top tier WR FA addition, maybe Landry and a round 2-3 draft pick. They should also address the OT with two picks, one round 1 or 2 and one after rd 4. On D, I would like to see another OLB drafted between rounds 1-3. With Meredith and White both coming off injury, there is no way you can even count on them for anything (especially White). So I wouldn't even count them. If they make the team and play, great, but I think OT and WR are top priorities. I wouldn't be opposed to signing both a top tier OT and WR in free agency and bring in another set early in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 With Meredith and White both coming off injury, there is no way you can even count on them for anything (especially White). So I wouldn't even count them. If they make the team and play, great, but I think OT and WR are top priorities. I wouldn't be opposed to signing both a top tier OT and WR in free agency and bring in another set early in the draft. I meant if they were healthy right now, would the Bears offense be as bad. Only 2 passes to a WR today, this has been almost every game also. Looking at next season, yes bring in a top FA at WR and try and get an upgrade at OT or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 WR is obviously the biggest need. But regarding white who knows if he would be an upgrade. We've honestly never seen him play. So we just have no idea at all. If Meredith is healthy then that is an upgrade as we know what he can do. However I thought we had the worst WR corps prior to all the injuries so it's not like it would be that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I meant if they were healthy right now, would the Bears offense be as bad. Only 2 passes to a WR today, this has been almost every game also. Looking at next season, yes bring in a top FA at WR and try and get an upgrade at OT or two. Oh yeah, Meredith was playing at least at a #2 WR level and at times a #1. He was a great route runner and could catch contested balls. I think he would make a difference if healthy. What the injuries did was expose just how bad Glennon is. I can't imagine what he would've looked like against MIN and BAL defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Oh yeah, Meredith was playing at least at a #2 WR level and at times a #1. He was a great route runner and could catch contested balls. I think he would make a difference if healthy. What the injuries did was expose just how bad Glennon is. I can't imagine what he would've looked like against MIN and BAL defenses. Looks like Steelers WR Martavious Bryant is unhappy there and has ask his team to be traded. Any thoughts on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Looks like Steelers WR Martavious Bryant is unhappy there and has ask his team to be traded. Any thoughts on him? I would almost rather pursue Josh Gordon who has finally come to grips with his addictions, etc. Bryant was a 4th rounder, suspended for an entire season for his 2nd substance abuse violation and is now complaining about targets on a team with LeVeon Bell and Antonio Brown. I don't know, one more violation and he is gone and we lose whatever we gave up. I guess if it was a 6th or 7th, I guess it wouldn't hurt, but anything more than that might not be worth it. Seems like a ticking time bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I would almost rather pursue Josh Gordon who has finally come to grips with his addictions, etc. Bryant was a 4th rounder, suspended for an entire season for his 2nd substance abuse violation and is now complaining about targets on a team with LeVeon Bell and Antonio Brown. I don't know, one more violation and he is gone and we lose whatever we gave up. I guess if it was a 6th or 7th, I guess it wouldn't hurt, but anything more than that might not be worth it. Seems like a ticking time bomb. I don't know much about Bryant. I would want a team player, which he isn't displaying to well with that demand. If he can be that teammate, then maybe worth a shot with a 6th or 7th. It would be a huge risk though with 2 violations. They have a huge need, someone needs to come through to give Wright help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 The only way I would do it is if its a conditional pick. No sure thing pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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