Does Anyone Think We Take WR at 8?

[Mongo3451]

Numerous mock drafts have of standing pat and drafting a receiver at 8. I just don't see the value. Thoughts?

['TD']

It depends on who he falls in love with. If it's a WR I could see him moving down a little. Last couple years he moved up to get the guy he fell for. If it's a different position he may move up.

[BearFan PHX]

I think WR is our number one need. But I agree that in all (most) of the analysis we've seen, WRs don't grade out to top 10 picks.

 

I guess it just depends what his scouting and coaching staff think. The good news is that between Nagy, Helfrich and Hiestand, they ought to be able to add a lot of value to our ability to evaluate WRs and OL.

 

I pretty much think whatever they do will be smarter than what we can guess or judge, since we have Walter Football and they have some serious passing game pros now looking at this stuff.

 

That said, it wouldn't shock me to see us trade down, or even take another position with the first pick. But if they do, you can bet WR is the 2nd pick, and they might go back to it in the 4th or 5th too.

[bowlingtwig]

Honestly speaking I don't mind taking Ridley at #8. I do think he is with it. But with that said we have so many holes that I don't really care which position we take at 8 outside of the obvious qb, RB, and k and punter. The biggest thing is pace has to hit on the pick. Someone who can immediately come in and be that guy. There is 1 guy I want more than anyone else and that's Quentin Nelson. I think he's a future a pro and obviously it's someone who can protect trubisky

[jason]

Hell, I'm an Alabama guy and I don't think Ridley deserves the #8. Furthermore, I'm not even a pure BPA fan and I still go BPA over Ridley at #8.

[Stinger226]

Hell, I'm an Alabama guy and I don't think Ridley deserves the #8. Furthermore, I'm not even a pure BPA fan and I still go BPA over Ridley at #8.

We simply have to , excluding Barkley. No Wrs have a top half of the first rating.Fitzpatrick, Nelson, Chubb, Edmunds is the one that has my attention. He's 19 years old right now. Fangio would grow him into a star.

[AZ54]

I don't see the value of any WR being worth a top 15 pick. I can't imagine Pace will either especially with some other very good options likely to be on the table. I would not rule out Barkley either if he's there. RB might not be the direction I want to go at #8 but he's a heck of a lot better pick than any WR in this draft. Adrian Peterson carried the Vikings offense on his back for many years.

[Stinger226]

I don't see the value of any WR being worth a top 15 pick. I can't imagine Pace will either especially with some other very good options likely to be on the table. I would not rule out Barkley either if he's there. RB might not be the direction I want to go at #8 but he's a heck of a lot better pick than any WR in this draft. Adrian Peterson carried the Vikings offense on his back for many years.

I think if Barkley is there, that is great trade bait. No way we take a WR in the first unless we trade back to the second half of the first round.

[bowlingtwig]

I don't see the value of any WR being worth a top 15 pick. I can't imagine Pace will either especially with some other very good options likely to be on the table. I would not rule out Barkley either if he's there. RB might not be the direction I want to go at #8 but he's a heck of a lot better pick than any WR in this draft. Adrian Peterson carried the Vikings offense on his back for many years.

If Barkley is there I'm positive we will trade back. We aren't in a position for a luxury pick when we have so many holes

[BearFan2000]

I agree with many here I just don't see any WR worthy of #8. There will be players worthy of that pick at other positions of need. If we trade back into the middle or early second half of the 1st round then I could see it. As always it depends on who's there when our pick comes up and what the offers will be for a trade down.

[jason]

I don't see the value of any WR being worth a top 15 pick. I can't imagine Pace will either especially with some other very good options likely to be on the table. I would not rule out Barkley either if he's there. RB might not be the direction I want to go at #8 but he's a heck of a lot better pick than any WR in this draft. Adrian Peterson carried the Vikings offense on his back for many years.

 

That pick would be a perfect display of incompetence. Pace should get fired before the second round if he picks a RB at #8.

[Mongo3451]

That pick would be a perfect display of incompetence. Pace should get fired before the second round if he picks a RB at #8.

Picture this. We draft Barkley and simultaneously trade Howard to the Steelers for their 1st because they are weary of Bell. That's a scenario I could live with. Barkley has the hands of a Forte, power of Peterson, speed and elusiveness of Elliot and never been injured. IE: Sweetness on steroids. This is most complete back I have seen since 34. Anyway, It's a pipedream as he doesn't make it past 4.

[AZ54]

Picture this. We draft Barkley and simultaneously trade Howard to the Steelers for their 1st because they are weary of Bell. That's a scenario I could live with. Barkley has the hands of a Forte, power of Peterson, speed and elusiveness of Elliot and never been injured. IE: Sweetness on steroids. This is most complete back I have seen since 34. Anyway, It's a pipedream as he doesn't make it past 4.

 

I can't imagine we'd get a first round pick for Howard but a late 2nd or 3rd I could see. Then use our two 4th Rd picks and trade up into the 3rd. With my top 4 picks I come out of the draft with:

 

Barkley nice upgrade at RB, he can do it all and he has game changing home run speed to go with his power. The Mickey Mouse offense he was in at Penn State didn't really showcase all he can do as an inside runner. With his speed who is covering him out of the backfield? If they keep a DB in for coverage then use the run option on the RPO.

 

DJ Chark WR 2nd Rd, he needs work but I figure Nagy and Helfrich will love his quickness and speed, and more importantly they'll know how to use it in an offense. He provides a legit deep threat as well to offset everyone else we have.

 

Alex Cappa OT 3rd Rd, looked very good at Senior Bowl, needs a year to take over for Massie and has LT potential long term but is our backup swing OT this year.

 

Kemoko Turay OLB 3rd Rd, was unblockable at Senior Bowl in 1on1 pass rushing drills but shoulder injury history clouds his draft status.

 

and then...

 

Michael Joseph CB 5th Rd. Excellent character and good athlete from a small school. We fill CB starters via FA and he spends a couple seasons learning the ropes with a good chance to develop into a starter down the road.

http://draftscout.tsxfiles.com/position-rankings/

"He does a great job smothering the receiver in both man and zone coverage to crowd the catch point. Joseph leads all of college football with eight interceptions in 2017, adding 43 tackles and 14 passes defended."

[Stinger226]

I can't imagine we'd get a first round pick for Howard but a late 2nd or 3rd I could see. Then use our two 4th Rd picks and trade up into the 3rd. With my top 4 picks I come out of the draft with:

 

Barkley nice upgrade at RB, he can do it all and he has game changing home run speed to go with his power. The Mickey Mouse offense he was in at Penn State didn't really showcase all he can do as an inside runner. With his speed who is covering him out of the backfield? If they keep a DB in for coverage then use the run option on the RPO.

 

DJ Chark WR 2nd Rd, he needs work but I figure Nagy and Helfrich will love his quickness and speed, and more importantly they'll know how to use it in an offense. He provides a legit deep threat as well to offset everyone else we have.

 

Alex Cappa OT 3rd Rd, looked very good at Senior Bowl, needs a year to take over for Massie and has LT potential long term but is our backup swing OT this year.

 

Kemoko Turay OLB 3rd Rd, was unblockable at Senior Bowl in 1on1 pass rushing drills but shoulder injury history clouds his draft status.

 

and then...

 

Michael Joseph CB 5th Rd. Excellent character and good athlete from a small school. We fill CB starters via FA and he spends a couple seasons learning the ropes with a good chance to develop into a starter down the road.

http://draftscout.tsxfiles.com/position-rankings/

"He does a great job smothering the receiver in both man and zone coverage to crowd the catch point. Joseph leads all of college football with eight interceptions in 2017, adding 43 tackles and 14 passes defended."

Barkley may be a franchise QB but with other needs, and Howard and Cohen, no way we draft him. Used for trade bait is another story.

 

In the first round teams that could use a stud RB:

ahead of us.

Cleveland has 2 low picks, grabbing a QB and RB would be idea for a team with a ready Oline and Coleman-Gordon-Njoku/TE

 

Indy has Luck, Hilton, Moncrief, Doyle/TE

 

Denver

Jets

Tampa

 

Behind us:

 

SF: they have there QB, a stud RB would be huge

Oakland

Wash

Miami

 

I go with in the

 

1st Q Nelson or T Edmunds

2nd K Miller or C Okafor/OT

4th a Leighton Vander Ersh/OLb

4th b Deontay Burnett/WR

 

If we draft Edmunds in the first then Vander Ersh would be substituted for Anthony Averett/CB

[ASHKUM BEAR]

If we could fast forward to FA in March, it would clear up the draft a little. I expect them to land a big name early at WR (Landry,Watkins,or Robinson)because its pretty clear that at 8, there isn't a player worthy. This class will be deep with good WRs but in the 2-4 range. OLB may be the Bears biggest need. Floyd, McPhee, and Young are signed. They might even cut McPhee and Young, so the Bear may look to add 3-4 players here. Houston and Acho would be alright to start the depth, but I expect a high end prospect (Edmonds, Davenport, Chubb, Key) and maybe another vet before camp. CB will also clear up in FA, I believe we try to keep both Fuller and Amukamara. If one walks, we have Cooper who hopefully rebounds if he doesn't get cut. We may look early in the draft at Jackson, Fitzpatrick, or Ward too if FA doesn't go as planned so. O-line, we have all the starters signed but might look for an upgrade. Longs health is in question also, so this is a wildcard position.

1. Tremaine Edwards OLB

2. Conner Williams OT

4. Auden Tate WR

4. Holton Hill CB

5. DeSean Hamilton WR

6. Austin Corbett G/T

7. Kicker

[bowlingtwig]

I can't imagine we'd get a first round pick for Howard but a late 2nd or 3rd I could see. Then use our two 4th Rd picks and trade up into the 3rd. With my top 4 picks I come out of the draft with:

 

Barkley nice upgrade at RB, he can do it all and he has game changing home run speed to go with his power. The Mickey Mouse offense he was in at Penn State didn't really showcase all he can do as an inside runner. With his speed who is covering him out of the backfield? If they keep a DB in for coverage then use the run option on the RPO.

 

DJ Chark WR 2nd Rd, he needs work but I figure Nagy and Helfrich will love his quickness and speed, and more importantly they'll know how to use it in an offense. He provides a legit deep threat as well to offset everyone else we have.

 

Alex Cappa OT 3rd Rd, looked very good at Senior Bowl, needs a year to take over for Massie and has LT potential long term but is our backup swing OT this year.

 

Kemoko Turay OLB 3rd Rd, was unblockable at Senior Bowl in 1on1 pass rushing drills but shoulder injury history clouds his draft status.

 

and then...

 

Michael Joseph CB 5th Rd. Excellent character and good athlete from a small school. We fill CB starters via FA and he spends a couple seasons learning the ropes with a good chance to develop into a starter down the road.

http://draftscout.tsxfiles.com/position-rankings/

"He does a great job smothering the receiver in both man and zone coverage to crowd the catch point. Joseph leads all of college football with eight interceptions in 2017, adding 43 tackles and 14 passes defended."

Joseph in the 5th? Wow that would be quite the story. I honestly don't know what his projection is but I can't imagine it's that high I know his story very well and I'd love to have him here