Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, BearFan NYC said: But if I had to choose between him and Montgomery going forward, well I'd go with what Nagy and Pace think. What other choice do we have? Far as I know none of us are Nagy or Pace. Lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Watched a few more highlights of Montgomery’s while sitting on my back deck (it’s sunny as I’ll get out up here and nearing 60 - that’s warm for us). Anyhow, still haven’t seen a lot of catches from this kid but almost immediately said ‘that kid reminds me of Maurice Jones-Drew’ in his style of play. I saw a few here mention Payton like moves but have to say to me it’s more like MJD. (Maybe it’s the #32) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: What other choice do we have? Far as I know none of us are Nagy or Pace. Lol... yes but there's a whole dust up about whether we all understand that LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 I like Howard and he was a good player. He did well in Fox's offense but we were a losing team. Nagy installed his offense and Howard did not do as well but we finished 12-4. If Nagy wants a different kind of runner , Im all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Cool story about Montgomery: Quote "Lou Ayeni was at home last season when his phone started ringing around 2 a.m. When he saw running back David Montgomery was calling him that early in the morning, Ayeni, an Iowa State associate head coach, said his mind started racing about what could have gone wrong. The problem? Montgomery, who wanted to do some late-night studying, was at the team’s practice facility, but couldn't remember the password to access game film. Montgomery said he’s spent some of his Friday and Saturday nights during the summer at the team’s practice facility. He’d arrive at 10 p.m. and sometimes stay until 2 or 3 a.m. Montgomery would spend the time watching film, doing footwork drills or running routes. - from 2017 https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/football/2017/08/17/iowa-states-david-montgomery-working-avoid-sophomore-slump/570184001/ I also read that eventually half the team was in with him at the facility working out or watching tape after hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, adam said: Cool story about Montgomery: That is cool, thanks for sharing. That said, a good night’s sleep is also important. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, CrackerDog said: That is cool, thanks for sharing. That said, a good night’s sleep is also important. :-) Absolutely, I just think it shows his commitment and effort level. Very few kids at that age would be doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 6:52 PM, Alaskan Grizzly said: Watched a few more highlights of Montgomery’s while sitting on my back deck (it’s sunny as I’ll get out up here and nearing 60 - that’s warm for us). Anyhow, still haven’t seen a lot of catches from this kid but almost immediately said ‘that kid reminds me of Maurice Jones-Drew’ in his style of play. I saw a few here mention Payton like moves but have to say to me it’s more like MJD. (Maybe it’s the #32) MJD was a power back, I do not see the similarity. Monty is more elusive has wiggle. I think he reminds me a little of Payton with all of his zinging and zaging . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Pretty good interview with the Iowa State RB coach. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-david-montgomery-position-coach-20190430-story.html#nt=oft03a-2gp2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 I like this photo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 I am quite impressed with all the film I watched on him. I like most people seen his 4.57 time and didnt pay much attention to him but he is quite elusive . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I am quite impressed with all the film I watched on him. I like most people seen his 4.57 time and didnt pay much attention to him but he is quite elusive . #34 ran a 4.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 He ran a 4.63 at combine and a 4.57 at his pro day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 I would love for them to do the 40 in pads. The smaller, lighter guys wear relatively the same amount of gear, but a higher percentage compared to their body weight. So a 185lbs WR wearing 10lbs of gear is going to be slower compared to their original speed than a 215lbs RB wearing 10lbs of gear. Both will be slower, but the lighter guy will traditionally take a bigger hit with the extra weight than the bigger guy. The difference between 4.5 and 4.6 is one yard of distance every 5 seconds. So a 4.5 player would take 5 seconds to make up one yard of distance if chasing a 4.6 player. In that time, the 4.6 player would have traveled 44 yards. So if the 4.6 player has a two yard lead, that's 88 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 "The difference between 4.5 and 4.6 is one yard of distance every 5 seconds. So a 4.5 player would take 5 seconds to make up one yard of distance if chasing a 4.6 player. In that time, the 4.6 player would have traveled 44 yards. So if the 4.6 player has a two yard lead, that's 88 yards." OK, I was told that math was not going to be used on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 hours ago, adam said: I would love for them to do the 40 in pads. The smaller, lighter guys wear relatively the same amount of gear, but a higher percentage compared to their body weight. So a 185lbs WR wearing 10lbs of gear is going to be slower compared to their original speed than a 215lbs RB wearing 10lbs of gear. Both will be slower, but the lighter guy will traditionally take a bigger hit with the extra weight than the bigger guy. The difference between 4.5 and 4.6 is one yard of distance every 5 seconds. So a 4.5 player would take 5 seconds to make up one yard of distance if chasing a 4.6 player. In that time, the 4.6 player would have traveled 44 yards. So if the 4.6 player has a two yard lead, that's 88 yards. Excellent point on the smaller players and IMO that's why Taylor Gabriel doesn't standout as being fast, despite his fast 40 time. He's not slow either but there are plenty of DBs keeping pace with him stride for stride once it's a straight line race. Beyond the overall 40 time,quickness comes into play as well. How fast can you get to top speed and how quickly can a player make cuts at speed, which is something Antonio Brown does well. Some guys like Tavon Austin are incredibly quick in the 10 yard split but lack long speed. The net 40 time might be impressive but he's often run down from behind in the secondary. But he'll be the first one out of a phone booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, AZ54 said: he'll be the first one out of a phone booth. love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Interesting article. I've been thinking about the Raiders and Josh Jacobs who was taken with our pick. I think there is little difference between Jacob's and Montgomery's skill sets and so IMO in terms of draft value I think we are the clear winners. When you look at this article and how they present the stats Montgomery becomes a very intriguing option. It will be interesting to see how their careers play out. I believe both will be successful but how much more productive does Jacobs have to be to justify that high pick? https://www.chicagoaudible.com/david-montgomery-collegiate-numbers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 I remember being a little upset when the Bears choose Howard over Langford at the RB position. With that being said , I have decided to trust this GM especially in the rounds he picked players this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 7 hours ago, lemonej said: I remember being a little upset when the Bears choose Howard over Langford at the RB position. With that being said , I have decided to trust this GM especially in the rounds he picked players this year. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Part 2 of the article I linked to yesterday https://www.chicagoaudible.com/david-montgomery-productive-kareem-hunt-rookie/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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