BearFan PHX Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 both 2nd round picks next year to OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, BearFan NYC said: both 2nd round picks next year to OL. Damn, we need help at CB too, but yeah, we can use 4 new O-Linemen right now. Massie, Leno, Long, and Daniels have been terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 How is it one year removed from Harry Hiestand being heralded as the best Oline coach the team has seen in a long time is now putting this product on the field? The only real change from this year to last is Daniels and Whitehair swapping places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: How is it one year removed from Harry Hiestand being heralded as the best Oline coach the team has seen in a long time is now putting this product on the field? The only real change from this year to last is Daniels and Whitehair swapping places. I asked the exact same thing. How is he still employed? The line has been that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Anthony Miller....wtf. He has been a huge disappointment. We essentially gave up 2x 2nds for him and he can't catch a pass when it hits both of his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 What luck, after a 3 and out on offense, the Raiders bumble a pitch and the Bears get the recovery. Then Montogmery literally pounds the ball in on his own on two tries for the score. 17-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, adam said: Anthony Miller....wtf. He has been a huge disappointment. We essentially gave up 2x 2nds for him and he can't catch a pass when it hits both of his hands. This. ^^ I’m not a believer. Time to let players like Wims and Ridley step up. Edit: ok maybe he redeemed himself during this last drive. Looks to me like Nagy made some halftime adjustments. And Raiders are shooting them selves in the feet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, adam said: Anthony Miller....wtf. He has been a huge disappointment. We essentially gave up 2x 2nds for him and he can't catch a pass when it hits both of his hands. He must have heard you. Little redemption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: He must have heard you. Little redemption. Yes, I will take full credit for this lol. That's what we need from him. Bears go 90 yards and score making it 17-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 and just like that defense comes alive, Cohen has a huge punt return, and Daniel to ARob again! Bears up 21-17! Holy crap! 21 unanswered points and the Raiders don't know what happened. Defense needs a stop here, don't give them any life. Miller with a stupid taunting penalty and Raiders get the ball at our 35 after long run back, wtf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 “Peanut punch” McManis to the rescue!!!!! Or was that Tillman wearing #27?!?!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: “Peanut punch” McManis to the rescue!!!!! Or was that Tillman wearing #27?!?!! ? McManis never needs to be a healthy scratch again. He did that while being held, huge heads up play to save a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Seriously on Leno can get a holding penalty when we lose 3 yards on a run, bench the dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, adam said: Seriously on Leno can get a holding penalty when we lose 3 yards on a run, bench the dude. I think they should bench Leno and Long after the bye. Make a statement and wake their poor olay asses up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: I think they should bench Leno and Long after the bye. Make a statement and wake their poor olay asses up. I’m down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Looks like the Bears are who we thought they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 As good as the defense has been over the last two years, when we needed a big stop late in a game, they have allowed a long TD drive and we lost. Looks like another one here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 All we needed was a FG, with 2 Time Outs, Daniel can't make that pass when all we need is 15 yards for a FG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: I think they should bench Leno and Long after the bye. Make a statement and wake their poor olay asses up. On the Roughing the Passer call against Daniel, Long literally tapped the defender's shoulder as he let him by. Embarrassing. As currently playing with this O-Line, this is a 7-8 win team. What's crazy is KPL doesn't run into the kicker, we probably win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 I'm done with this team as Superbowl contenders. Team came in totally unprepared to play, caught 3 lucky breaks between the Carr fumble, the McManis punch, and the Daniel INT that was called back because of a bogus roughing the passer penalty.Oakland ran all over them with impunity. Absolutely zero pressure on Carr. It was just a horrible game from start to finish. The offense was bad, as usual, but they scored 24 points and had a lead late in the game until the defense choked the game away yet again in a clutch moment. This is now the 3rd consecutive time the defense hasn't been able to stop a team from taking back the lead in a do or die situation (PHI, DEN, OAK). As talented as they are, we need to stop referring to them as the best in the NFL. They are most certainly not anymore. Lastly, I'll just say this about the offense: Their run game is one of the worst I have ever seen from an offense. David Montgomery has like 2 or 3 runs for over 10 yards this year. That's it! They're so bad that they are even committing holds on plays where Montgomery is losing yards! Between Leno and Long, I'm not sure who's been worse for them this year, but the penalties are an absolute killer. Allen Robinson has been the only consistently good performer on offense for them this year. He's a beast. 3-2 heading into the bye. Their schedule is brutal now. This loss very well could be season defining if they follow it up with another loss to New Orleans. So disgusted with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bears4Ever_34 said: I'm done with this team as Superbowl contenders. Team came in totally unprepared to play, caught 3 lucky breaks between the Carr fumble, the McManis punch, and the Daniel INT that was called back because of a bogus roughing the passer penalty.Oakland ran all over them with impunity. Absolutely zero pressure on Carr. It was just a horrible game from start to finish. The offense was bad, as usual, but they scored 24 points and had a lead late in the game until the defense choked the game away yet again in a clutch moment. This is now the 3rd consecutive time the defense hasn't been able to stop a team from taking back the lead in a do or die situation (PHI, DEN, OAK). As talented as they are, we need to stop referring to them as the best in the NFL. They are most certainly not anymore. Lastly, I'll just say this about the offense: Their run game is one of the worst I have ever seen from an offense. David Montgomery has like 2 or 3 runs for over 10 yards this year. That's it! They're so bad that they are even committing holds on plays where Montgomery is losing yards! Between Leno and Long, I'm not sure who's been worse for them this year, but the penalties are an absolute killer. Allen Robinson has been the only consistently good performer on offense for them this year. He's a beast. 3-2 heading into the bye. Their schedule is brutal now. This loss very well could be season defining if they follow it up with another loss to New Orleans. So disgusted with this team. Yeah, like I said, 7-8 wins at best. Nagy's company line of "great practice" is comical now. Nagy is starting to look very overrated, especially as a playcaller and with team preparation. Lack of preseason shows. Let's get all the trick stuff that fools no one out of the playbook and call some trap plays, counters, and play actions like real offenses do. I have never seen an offensive line this bad. We are getting holding penalties where our RB loses 2 yards. Leno is the most penalized player in the NFL, $38M contract. Great job Ryan Pace. I don't know what the issue is. Long literally taps rushing defenders on the shoulder, then turns the other way to block air. I don't get it. When we are in a running play, how can we not move the defensive line at all? They end up 3 yards in the backfield every play. It is really getting old. We need to scrap this zone blocking scheme and go back to a traditional play-action offense. ARob is a beast and literally makes 2 highlight-reel catches per game. If we are 3-2 with this schedule, we now need to go 7-4 for 10 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Another gut punch, this win bumps OAK up a notch in standing for draft order and bumps us down, so we essentially lose more draft capital in this loss vs gaining some back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, adam said: Yeah, like I said, 7-8 wins at best. Nagy's company line of "great practice" is comical now. Nagy is starting to look very overrated, especially as a playcaller and with team preparation. Lack of preseason shows. Let's get all the trick stuff that fools no one out of the playbook and call some trap plays, counters, and play actions like real offenses do. I have never seen an offensive line this bad. We are getting holding penalties where our RB loses 2 yards. Leno is the most penalized player in the NFL, $38M contract. Great job Ryan Pace. I don't know what the issue is. Long literally taps rushing defenders on the shoulder, then turns the other way to block air. I don't get it. When we are in a running play, how can we not move the defensive line at all? They end up 3 yards in the backfield every play. It is really getting old. We need to scrap this zone blocking scheme and go back to a traditional play-action offense. ARob is a beast and literally makes 2 highlight-reel catches per game. If we are 3-2 with this schedule, we now need to go 7-4 for 10 wins. I'm not sure Montgomery has had more than 3-4 runs all year longer than 10 yards. They are almost at the point now where they might be better off just throwing on every down and using the screen game as their version of a run. Leno and Long are unplayable. One can't block anybody, and the other holds or false starts every other snap. I've been saying it since week 1, but Harry Hiestand has to go. Ever since his arrival, the Bears have not been able to run the ball effectively. They changed their blocking schemes from the Adam Gase zone blocks to more of a physical man on man style, and it has failed miserably. As far as I'm concerned, both him and Tabor could be gone tomorrow, and I'd be thrilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Out muscled on defense. Did not thing I would see that. Out played, out schemed, out coached . Just an old fashion butt whipping. And this offense is going no where until they figure out what the hell the offense line is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 This game reminds me of the bully on the beach. Their off. and def. lines just dominated and kicked sand in ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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