Trubisky One Read QB

[adam]

Ok, early in the 2nd quarter, the Bears have 1st and 10 on the Saints 24.

#1. The Bears send Gabriel in motion and no one follows. Trubisky fakes handoff/RPO to Montgomery and immediately looks towards ARob. Massie blocks inside and Jordan is unblocked on the edge (play design?). Coward/Massie double team DT, Whitehair/Daniels double the other. Monty looks to be running between those two, but doesn't get the ball. 

#2. Trubisky still staring down ARob, Jordan stops to ensure Montgomery doesn't have ball, both Miller and Gabriel open. Gabriel has to be in Trubisky's field of view. 

#3. Trubisky hitches (horrible form) like he going to throw it to ARob who doesn't seem to be expecting pass. Gabriel and Miller both wide open. Miller is seen waving his arms. Jordan now locked in on Trubisky.

#4. Trubisky's eyes now on Jordan, still can't see Gabriel or Miller who still have no one near them. 

#5. Trubisky's indecision has allowed Jordan to close to him. All Trubisky has to do is throw the ball away or at this point towards Miller who is still motioning for the ball. It's a safe throw because as long as he doesn't airmail it, no one is within 5 yards of Miller. Montgomery is now past the LOS too. If you watch Coward through these pics, he comes off his first block (#3) and is blocking at the 2nd level (#4), and finishing it well down the field. Since it was not a run, it might've been a penalty though Coward sure thought it was going to be a run up the gut.

Trubisky is sacked making it a 2nd and 18. Trubisky has two more passes, one complete to ARob for 4 yards making it 3rd and 14 and then incomplete on 3rd down. The Bears settle for a FG. 

This play highlights Trubisky's ability to read the play, know where the open players are and to adjust or think on his feet. For some reason, he locks into ARob super early and way before it would be possible for him to be open. ARob doesnt even seem to expect the ball until #4 when he is calling for it deep. By then Trubisky's eyes are no longer down field and he can even evade a single rusher to throw the ball away. You can't take a sack there.

[Bears4Ever_34]

He will forever be known as the Sam Bowie of his draft.

[adam]

3 minutes ago, Bears4Ever_34 said:

He will forever be known as the Sam Bowie of his draft.

Oh yeah, even worse, who was drafted before 2 HOFers at the same position where the team traded up for the dud? It will be known as "The Trubisky".

[adam]

This is actually a great play design by Nagy. Monty might've had a decent run as long as he beat Jordan to the hole. If not, Miller and Gabriel were both open for at least 5-7 yards, they could easily turn and dive for 2 yards. It's crazy how every play looks like this for the most part.

I can't imagine why Trubisky locks onto ARob so soon, was it an out route that he didn't run? The video looks worse, Trubisky literally snaps his neck towards ARob, so I was thinking maybe a fake, then he does this half-ass hitch/pump fake. However, right then he has to throw it to someone, and he hesitates, sees Jordan and the play is done.

He doesn't even have the common sense to throw it away. He has to know he has two receivers to his right, where he can easily pitch it and it won't be intentional grounding. I would love to hear what he was thinking on this play. High School QBs understand this concept. I see it every Friday night. How can our Franchise QB not understand this? 

[BearFan PHX]

Yeah, on this play it was Mitch all the way.

UGH.

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Remember seeing this play live and went crazy when I saw Montgomery make it to the second level untouched.  My wife said he didn’t have ball and said Trubisky still did (she usually is tricked by plays like this, not this time, it was me - lol).  What’s more I watched highlights and again fell for it.  
 

Anyhow, agree that it was a well designed play.  Trubisky’s inability to do his progressions is killing his ability to succeed.  This is where Daniel is better.  Maybe can’t throw the deep ball but can read the field.  

[AZ54]

3 hours ago, adam said:

This is actually a great play design by Nagy. Monty might've had a decent run as long as he beat Jordan to the hole. If not, Miller and Gabriel were both open for at least 5-7 yards, they could easily turn and dive for 2 yards. It's crazy how every play looks like this for the most part.

I can't imagine why Trubisky locks onto ARob so soon, was it an out route that he didn't run? The video looks worse, Trubisky literally snaps his neck towards ARob, so I was thinking maybe a fake, then he does this half-ass hitch/pump fake. However, right then he has to throw it to someone, and he hesitates, sees Jordan and the play is done.

He doesn't even have the common sense to throw it away. He has to know he has two receivers to his right, where he can easily pitch it and it won't be intentional grounding. I would love to hear what he was thinking on this play. High School QBs understand this concept. I see it every Friday night. How can our Franchise QB not understand this? 

The only issue I have with Gabriel is he sits down right behind the LT/RDE and he's hard to see there, much less dropping a pass in over the top of the RDE.  It seems to me he should have continued his route out to the numbers so he's underneath Robinson who is doing the clear out route.  There's no way for me to know if that was the read Trubisky was really looking for and Gabriel never shows himself out there wide enough for Trubisky to complete the pass.  The assumption here is that he's looking for Robinson on the pump fake but maybe he's expecting Gabriel to come out wide and when that didn't happen he pulled the pass down.  Without that option, and Robinson covered, he should come back quickly to AMiller and take the quick short gain.   He who hesitates is lost.  

[adam]

I did not see this until this morning, the exact same play broken down on Twitter: 

 

 

[adam]

12 hours ago, AZ54 said:

The only issue I have with Gabriel is he sits down right behind the LT/RDE and he's hard to see there, much less dropping a pass in over the top of the RDE.  It seems to me he should have continued his route out to the numbers so he's underneath Robinson who is doing the clear out route.  There's no way for me to know if that was the read Trubisky was really looking for and Gabriel never shows himself out there wide enough for Trubisky to complete the pass.  The assumption here is that he's looking for Robinson on the pump fake but maybe he's expecting Gabriel to come out wide and when that didn't happen he pulled the pass down.  Without that option, and Robinson covered, he should come back quickly to AMiller and take the quick short gain.   He who hesitates is lost.  

Either way, he looked, hitched, hesitated and got sacked. This is exactly what he does on every play. He either throws to first read, or hesitates and the play is over. Once his head snapped to the left and he saw nothing there, even if he can't see Gabriel, he has to look for Miller and make the throw instantly. He is just slow to process and react. Shouldn't we see at least some improvement here? It's not like he magically figures this out overnight because there are so many other things going on (bad feet, bad hips, bad presnap reads, zero touch, poor deep ball accuracy). If you knew what you knew now, does Trubisky even get drafted? 

[AZ54]

9 hours ago, adam said:

Either way, he looked, hitched, hesitated and got sacked. This is exactly what he does on every play. He either throws to first read, or hesitates and the play is over. Once his head snapped to the left and he saw nothing there, even if he can't see Gabriel, he has to look for Miller and make the throw instantly. He is just slow to process and react. Shouldn't we see at least some improvement here? It's not like he magically figures this out overnight because there are so many other things going on (bad feet, bad hips, bad presnap reads, zero touch, poor deep ball accuracy). If you knew what you knew now, does Trubisky even get drafted? 

EVERY play?  I agree he waited too long for Gabriel to wake up and move into a passing lane but this is cleary an overstatement when there is plenty of evidence Trubisky has made multiple reads on many plays this season alone. 

If I knew then what I know now would I even want Nagy as my head coach?  The guy is scared to commit to the running game, even when he knows his QB is struggling.  How stupid is that?  We went through this last year too with little emphasis on the running game until games were all but won.  At the time many of us said well it's Jordan Howard and he doesn't fit the inside scheme (myself included).  Give him a chance with his hand pick RB and we'll see better this year.  His hand picked RB got two carries.  

Last year we reached a similar point with the running game and about 2/3 through the season we finally started leaning on Howard earlier in the game and his yds/game improved.  At least until he had 10 carries against the Eagles.   Last year Trubisky had nearly as many rushing yards as Cohen.  This year so far he's rushed 5 times for 21 yards.  Some of that were QB scrambles but still we've lost 25% of our running game.   Fact is we have a former Arena League QB calling plays in the NFL like he's still in the Arena League.   His OC Helfrich is nearly non-existent but if not him, someone should be the voice of the running game on this team.   

It's fine to say Trubisky is struggling but there are too many aspects of the offense in the same spot.  Trubisky certainly isn't struggling on handoffs and if that and running are his best attributes why are we doing that?  

 

[ASHKUM BEAR]

I remember the Bears avoiding the run last year too, I gave the excuse that they were getting repetitions in on the passing game because it was so complicated.  This is all on the play caller and putting the players in position to succeed. They need more balance to keep defenses guessing. 

[Stinger226]

He easily could have took off to the right and avoided Jordan and still had a throw option to Miller. He did the only bad decision that was available, hold the ball.

[Stinger226]

As a coach, where do you go from here? Simplify the game, roll MT to the left or right and have one option to throw or to run. Have quick throws before wrs get covered, less time to think. Have run plays designed for MT. All of this takes a player out of the defense because they will have to shadow MT. Run, run, run at least then the defense can rest some.

[Mongo3451]

8 hours ago, AZ54 said:

 

It's fine to say Trubisky is struggling but there are too many aspects of the offense in the same spot.  Trubisky certainly isn't struggling on handoffs and if that and running are his best attributes why are we doing that? 

Two things Trubisky desperately needs needs to work on:

1)  Pre snap read.  He cannot miss seeing wide open receivers when it's 3rd and any distance.

2)  He has to start hitting on some deep balls.  It's almost like he's afraid to put it on the money out of fear of interception, so many overthrows.  If he can't hit a deep ball, the run game will never work.  The defense has no respect of getting burnt. 

[BearFan2000]

On 10/23/2019 at 8:29 AM, Stinger226 said:

He easily could have took off to the right and avoided Jordan and still had a throw option to Miller. He did the only bad decision that was available, hold the ball.

These kinds of plays and his comments about trying to be a pass first QB gives fuel to the theory that he's being told not to run but rather throw first.  I also wonder if in his thinking he wants to make every play a big play rather than take what the defense gives you.  If what they give you is easy 5-7 yard completions, take it and force them to take that away to open up the deep stuff.  If they don't take it away tthey are giving up a first down every 2-3 plays which either lets you avoid 3rd down or have 3rd and short.  He has to be aware of the noise from fans/media alike about our offense's woes and hearing about Mahome's and Watson, etc. The pressure has to be there wether he admits it or not.  Sometimes that pressure can lead to overthinking and trying too hard rather than take advantage of what each play gives you, and if it's not there scramble and throw the ball away and live to fight another down.  If he's being told to not run you take away a big part of his game.  He's proven he can be a threat when he takes off, when teams no longer fear that they sit in coverage and let their D-line get after him.  He's not a pure pocket passer don't try to make him what he's not.  He looks neutered back there.  Besides with our offensive line, forcing your QB to be a statue is asking for trouble.  A good OC does what he can to call and design plays to take advantage of what his players do well, while masking or negating what they don't do well.  Here it seems to be the square peg in a round hole syndrome.  That doesn't absolve Mitch's inability to see open receivers and hold the ball too long.  Hard to say if he's trying to hard to make big plays and hoping ARob will eventually be open and ignoring the easier shorter options because he's looking for the home run. At some point you have to realize it's better to focus first on getting men on bases before swinging for the fence.