Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Saw on the Chicago Bears website Robinson was the team’s selection to be a finalist of the Walter Payton - Man of the Year award. And he desires to remain in Chicago for the remainder of his career. Seems logical to me... I look forward to him being yet another Bear inducted into the Hall of Fame. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2019/12/10/21004628/allen-robinson-chicago-bears-all-time-franchise-johnny-morris-walter-payton-nagy-ryan-pace-contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Saw on the Chicago Bears website Robinson was the team’s selection to be a finalist of the Walter Payton - Man of the Year award. And he desires to remain in Chicago for the remainder of his career. Seems logical to me... I look forward to him being yet another Bear inducted into the Hall of Fame. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2019/12/10/21004628/allen-robinson-chicago-bears-all-time-franchise-johnny-morris-walter-payton-nagy-ryan-pace-contract I'd have no problem extending him with a reasonable contract (similar to what he has now). Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Connorbear said: I'd have no problem extending him with a reasonable contract (similar to what he has now). Peace I agree, Robinson's a hard worker, and all around good guy. He's been a positive addition to this team giving us a legit #1 WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 He is a true #1 WR and is only getting better. He is still fairly young, so there is no reason not to lock him up and not have to worry about that position for the next 5-6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, adam said: He is a true #1 WR and is only getting better. He is still fairly young, so there is no reason not to lock him up and not have to worry about that position for the next 5-6 years. I'm happier with him vs. Alshon. Stats are similar but I still think ARob is a better fit in the locker room. We absolutely should extend him for 4 years. First off he's the right type of player you want to extend. Second we can structure the contract so we lower his 2020 cap hit from $15mil (currently) to as low as we want. Let's just say we take his cap hit from $15mil to $5mil. That alone gets the team from around $13mil to $23mil. I'm also one of the few who wants to extend Leonard Floyd for 3 years. His versatility is still an important part of our defense. If he develops into the pass rusher we expected he'll still be young enough to get his really big contract. We can do the same on the contract structure so we open up another $5-10mil for 2020. Call it $30mil in cap space. Kyle Long is getting cut which frees up $8mil now you have $38mil. Prince is another candidate to be cut. I still like him but reality is at 31 years old in 2020 he's not likely to be more durable. Tolliver looks ready to take over the spot. Add another $8mil now we have $46mil. Gabriel's concussion issues concern me. I like him and he's a consistent part of the offense when he's available but one more concussion and he could done (if he's not now). We have WRs waiting in the wings (Wims/Ridley) who have already shown similar production in games. Cutting him saves $4.5mil now we have $50.5mil. I see zero reason we can't extend Robinson's contract and free up this cap space. With that we can look at doing a 2 year deal with Trevathan (should be modest) and keep Kwit. Eddie Jackson also deserves a contract extension. It won't be as high as it was looking like last year but it will still be a big deal. Even with that Pace can still be a player in the FA market to bolster depth at OLB, TE, OT, WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Even with that Pace can still be a player in the FA market to bolster depth at OLB, TE, OT, WR. If we have space to buy, my vote is to retain Patterson. I like the energy he brings and feel that there is even more to him than we are tapping. His combination of size, speed and power is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, AZ54 said: I'm happier with him vs. Alshon. Stats are similar but I still think ARob is a better fit in the locker room. We absolutely should extend him for 4 years. First off he's the right type of player you want to extend. Second we can structure the contract so we lower his 2020 cap hit from $15mil (currently) to as low as we want. Let's just say we take his cap hit from $15mil to $5mil. That alone gets the team from around $13mil to $23mil. I'm also one of the few who wants to extend Leonard Floyd for 3 years. His versatility is still an important part of our defense. If he develops into the pass rusher we expected he'll still be young enough to get his really big contract. We can do the same on the contract structure so we open up another $5-10mil for 2020. Call it $30mil in cap space. Kyle Long is getting cut which frees up $8mil now you have $38mil. Prince is another candidate to be cut. I still like him but reality is at 31 years old in 2020 he's not likely to be more durable. Tolliver looks ready to take over the spot. Add another $8mil now we have $46mil. Gabriel's concussion issues concern me. I like him and he's a consistent part of the offense when he's available but one more concussion and he could done (if he's not now). We have WRs waiting in the wings (Wims/Ridley) who have already shown similar production in games. Cutting him saves $4.5mil now we have $50.5mil. I see zero reason we can't extend Robinson's contract and free up this cap space. With that we can look at doing a 2 year deal with Trevathan (should be modest) and keep Kwit. Eddie Jackson also deserves a contract extension. It won't be as high as it was looking like last year but it will still be a big deal. Even with that Pace can still be a player in the FA market to bolster depth at OLB, TE, OT, WR. right on. And we may have young players in the wings ready to step up too. Like Bars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said: If we have space to buy, my vote is to retain Patterson. I like the energy he brings and feel that there is even more to him than we are tapping. His combination of size, speed and power is crazy. I was against the signing thinking we paid too much for him. After watching him all season he's a flat out stud on special teams both as a returner and cover guy. Nobody can stop him from getting downfield first on punt coverage. We pay tens of millions of dollars for a defense to stop an opponent from gaining 10 yards. Patterson can do that on each punt by preventing a return. On top of that he occasionally offers enough of a spark on offense to give us a big play. I don't think we've been able to truly utilize him mainly because our TEs have been so weak in the passing game. As a LB, if you see Shaheen coming at you are you worried that he'll go out on a route and catch a pass behind you? Or do you just assume he's blocking for Patterson who was coming behind the LOS on a possible jet sweep play? I'd just go after the player most likely to get the ball. Missing Patterson could mean giving up a big play. Missing Shaheen might mean giving up 10 yds... at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Ballers are ballers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Get this guy signed. He's a baller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 I think we have our WR1 and WR2. We need both locked up for the next 5+ years: Last 4 games Robinson 26-390, 4 TD Miller 27-377, 2 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, adam said: I think we have our WR1 and WR2. We need both locked up for the next 5+ years: Last 4 games Robinson 26-390, 4 TD Miller 27-377, 2 TD Miller has some growing up to do and have better route discipline before I'd re-sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Miller has some growing up to do and have better route discipline before I'd re-sign him. Miller has 2 more years on his rookie contract. No need to do anything until after next season. I'd redo Robinson's deal in the offseason. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Miller is still making immature mistakes every week. But he is also getting better every week and his talent is undeniable. I think he is going to be an excellent receiver next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 19 hours ago, BearFan NYC said: Miller is still making immature mistakes every week. But he is also getting better every week and his talent is undeniable. I think he is going to be an excellent receiver next year. This. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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