McGowan Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 This has fueled speculation that the Bears are sniffing around Carr. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 I see some speculation that it could mean Mack back to the Raiders (which i HIGHLY DOUBT and HOPE). But I know Carr and Gruden's relationship has been tenuous at best so... I see this as more a speculation of what's to come and knowing the Bears need (or are in the market for) a veteran backup. I'd be good with Carr coming over if he didn't break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 If anything, Gruden working a trade to get his 2nd rounder back. If that's all it takes to get Carr, you do it in a heartbeat. Carr would be worth more than any 2nd rounder. Now the trick will be the salary. LVR would have to retain some salary for it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 This is a time where we all dream about what might happen. This would happen only if they give up on MT. I don't think their there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 In know way does Derek Carr make us BETTER than our second rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Would Carr fit in an RPO? The Bears are not making adjustments to suit Trubisky, would they make them to suit Carr? There is speculation that Brady might end up in LV also. I would wait it out and let them cut Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: In know way does Derek Carr make us BETTER than our second rounder. But...if he comes to Chicago he easily becomes the best QB on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: But...if he comes to Chicago he easily becomes the best QB on the roster. If you believe that, you have lost all credibility with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: If you believe that, you have lost all credibility with me. Ha! I didn’t know I had any credibility with you. Lol... Well then credibility be damned because the stats are what they are. Yes I know Trubisky has a ‘lame line’ and ‘his receivers run the wrong routes’ and ‘Nagy doesn’t call the right plays’ (and so on) but right now, Carr is the better option. Someday Trubisky could be the better option, maybe even next season but so far I don’t have any proof to tell me that is a guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 It's not about their individual stats. For starters, Trubisky knows the offense and he knows how to run for his life. Small miracles happen but it's not likely our line will be more than average this year. Add in the 2nd rounder and the scales tip the balance toward Mitch. Carr commands a decent salary that we cannot afford. If we take that on, many holes don't get filled with free agent money. Lastly, you don't throw your developing QB away for Derek Carr. It's not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said: Lastly, you don't throw your developing QB away for Derek Carr. It's not even close. Sorry to disagree but Tennessee did it last year and it worked for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Sorry to disagree but Tennessee did it last year and it worked for them. Again, not even close. Mariota just completed his 5th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said: Again, not even close. Mariota just completed his 5th year. So we wait two more years to see if Trubisky works out? The defense doesn’t have that long a shelf life. We’ll be lucky if Mack and Hicks will be around that long. I suppose it comes down to tom-AY-to, tom-AH-to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: I suppose it comes down to tom-AY-to, tom-AH-to. Or you could just admit you are wrong...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said: Or you could just admit you are wrong...??? I will if or when I am. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Or Nagy can create a running offense that compliments his players to not throw the Defense away. His offensive creation may blow defenses away if he ever has all the right pieces to make it work, but the 80 pass 20 run is not fooling anyone right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 As much as Carr is a better QB right now there is 3 things preventing that from happening. Cost- with a lack of draft capital what do we have to offer? Cost- he is making 21 million this year, we are against the cap. Also is Carr the ideal fit for Nagys offense? I would say Bridgewater is a better QB right now but he is not a good fit for Nagys offense either. Pace is not going to give up on MT this year, his career is based on this pick, he's going to let this play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Or Nagy can create a running offense that compliments his players to not throw the Defense away. His offensive creation may blow defenses away if he ever has all the right pieces to make it work, but the 80 pass 20 run is not fooling anyone right now. Yeah, saw an interview on NFL Network with Kyle Long (not sure how old the interview was). But they started to talk about potential QBs coming to Chicago and he cut them off to say the team needed a POWER running game. And that although both current backs (Montgomery and Cohen) are great scat backs, they still needed that power running game. When asked if Jordan Howard was that guy Long stopped short of saying yes. But instead said he’s a great back and he’s not currently on the team. And that the answer is “out there somewhere”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 51 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Yeah, saw an interview on NFL Network with Kyle Long (not sure how old the interview was). But they started to talk about potential QBs coming to Chicago and he cut them off to say the team needed a POWER running game. And that although both current backs (Montgomery and Cohen) are great scat backs, they still needed that power running game. When asked if Jordan Howard was that guy Long stopped short of saying yes. But instead said he’s a great back and he’s not currently on the team. And that the answer is “out there somewhere”. Kyle is really good on TV. I saw him for a little bit on NFL Network and he was both informative and entertaining to listen to. He's going to land somewhere either local or national. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Kyle is really good on TV. I saw him for a little bit on NFL Network and he was both informative and entertaining to listen to. He's going to land somewhere either local or national. Or before getting there, maybe in the mound again for a MLB team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Or before getting there, maybe in the mound again for a MLB team. Not a snowball's chance in hell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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