Stinger226 Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 I would say if he drops to us, we have take him he's a top 30 prospect. He is that DK Metcalf type of wr. I think he timed in 4.4s at his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: I love that draft. It would be miraculous for Higgins to fall that far though. No doubt that would be a good haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Took the trades and went with this weeks flavor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Took the trades and went with this weeks flavor. Can we get this approved by the Commissioner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 All in on that one . I just did one where I trade back 3 times to 72 and Taylor was still there. Had to take him 27th ranked player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I don't know if anybody has did this simulator from PROFOOTBALLNETWORK but today the free one that they have is no longer free. They one on the site free but no trades. Its lame in comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 No trades, it was a toss up between Hamler and Claypool and I always take Claypool. Levonta Taylor can be a CB imo. Wanted SS higher but had no one slotted high enough when picking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have done several mocks on PFF, some of the situations seem totally unrealistic, no way in hell Becton makes it out of the top 15 let alone fall to 43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I have done several mocks on PFF, some of the situations seem totally unrealistic, no way in hell Becton makes it out of the top 15 let alone fall to 43. Their big board must not be too accurate. I do think we may see one impressive name slide to 43, then Pace will end up taking that TE Hopkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I'm sure someone like a Higgins or Josh Jones could drop down but a top 4 OT will never make it out of the first round. I think they just haven't adjusted their board, a lot of players have moved up the board. Erza Cleveland was not even in the top 100 player and now he could go in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AZ54 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Elgin Slim said: I'd be happy with the first two. Eason drives me crazy when I watch him play...don't need to see more of that. Tanner Muse is an interesting prospect but he's not very agile. In a straight line downhill he'll make some big hits but I think NFL players will just cut around him. He's like the safety version of Ryan Nall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I read some draft profiles on Muse and flexibility was a question but most said he makes up for that with football IQ. He was a team captain and has the ability to cover TEs and RBs. A good tackler but was suggested he put on 10 lbs and become a LB, weakside or middle in the 3-4. Sounds more like a backup than a starter but Kwit had some of the same characteristics put on him when he came out. They said a hard worker and rentless pursuit. They're many better options but sounds at the least a good special teams player and NFL backup. Plus 4.41 speed doesn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: I read some draft profiles on Muse and flexibility was a question but most said he makes up for that with football IQ. He was a team captain and has the ability to cover TEs and RBs. A good tackler but was suggested he put on 10 lbs and become a LB, weakside or middle in the 3-4. Sounds more like a backup than a starter but Kwit had some of the same characteristics put on him when he came out. They said a hard worker and rentless pursuit. They're many better options but sounds at the least a good special teams player and NFL backup. Plus 4.41 speed doesn't hurt. Doing many mocks, Muse always seemed like the last resort at SS but he didnt leave you feeling skepticle. You felt his floor was high enough to be alright, but not sure there much of a ceiling. Solid player and maybe someone we can compare to as Kwit as Stinger mentions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 5 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Doing many mocks, Muse always seemed like the last resort at SS but he didnt leave you feeling skepticle. You felt his floor was high enough to be alright, but not sure there much of a ceiling. Solid player and maybe someone we can compare to as Kwit as Stinger mentions Kwit is not a bad comparison. He also started out as a safety in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Stinger226 said: I read some draft profiles on Muse and flexibility was a question but most said he makes up for that with football IQ. He was a team captain and has the ability to cover TEs and RBs. A good tackler but was suggested he put on 10 lbs and become a LB, weakside or middle in the 3-4. Sounds more like a backup than a starter but Kwit had some of the same characteristics put on him when he came out. They said a hard worker and rentless pursuit. They're many better options but sounds at the least a good special teams player and NFL backup. Plus 4.41 speed doesn't hurt. A comparable late round guy I’m really loving recently is Antoine Brooks from Maryland. Started at linebacker and moved to safety, but maintained the same mentality and has a whopping 27 TFL in his career, which is unheard of for a safety. I’ve never seen a DB make so many plays at or behind the line of scrimmage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Stinger226 said: I have done several mocks on PFF, some of the situations seem totally unrealistic, no way in hell Becton makes it out of the top 15 let alone fall to 43. Just read Becton failed a drug test. I doubt it drops him down to the 2nd, but may drop him 5-10 slots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I was sleeping when that news broke ( in Thailand). I seen the drug fail after whoever made the remarks about him dropping in the draft. He may drop but I still doubt it gets to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 our two 2nd rounders together equal trading to LV to get our original first round pick back from them LOL Maybe we could trade into the middle of the first round for a QB or Becton falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Kiper today said. The Bears could take a WR like Reager at 43 then maybe a TE at 50, like Kmet. Or trade down to gain a 3rd and use that on Trautman. I can go with: 2-43 Reager WR 2-59 Chinn SS 3-84 Trautman TE (or Antonio Gibson RB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, dawhizz said: A comparable late round guy I’m really loving recently is Antoine Brooks from Maryland. Started at linebacker and moved to safety, but maintained the same mentality and has a whopping 27 TFL in his career, which is unheard of for a safety. I’ve never seen a DB make so many plays at or behind the line of scrimmage. Good find. He fits the downhill role perfectly and the way he gets off blocks is outstanding. Downside is listed below. I'd be perfectly good adding him to the roster late in the draft, even if we drafted another safety earlier. I like having good hard-nosed football players on the defense. I'm not that enamored with Bush or DHC either and while he's limited in coverage somewhat he brings a lot to the table in and around the LOS that those other safeties don't have. Since we have ILBs who can cover TEs or RBs Pagano could mask his deficiencies if he had to be on the field due to injury. https://www.thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings CONS: Total liability in man coverage. Tight hips and heavy feet make him a liability carrying anyone into space. Doesn’t feel vertical push well at all in his pedal. Zone drops are erratic and he rarely reaches his landmarks. Cover spacing is mostly off and he gets caught between zones or covering grass. Has minimal range and well below average makeup speed. Cannot be trusted in deep zone coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 If BPA ends up being 2 Safeties in this draft, that's not a bad thing provided we get extra picks. In many mock drafts I took Delpit in the second round and Brooks was still there with our late picks. Like AZ said before, SS is huge to be able to allow EJac more freedom in the back end and covering TEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 Accepted every trade and feel like I crushed this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 That's livable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 The PFF Simulator now starts at the 2nd round. Pretty cool. I ran it and tried to pick BPA, a lot of great options. What I don't understand is why PFF would give a different grade at the same pick for the same player just based on who is available. Like somehow Winfield was a better pick the 2nd time: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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