adam Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Madness, to me this was all setup. Gronk retires, Brady doesn't return to NE. He has the pick of the league, picks TB, then after NE signs enough players that prevents them from taking on Gronk's contract, he magically unretires which forces NE's hand to make a trade immediately (they cannot go over the cap). To me, this seems way too convenient. Also, TB magically had enough to take on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, adam said: Madness Yeah just saw this too. Explains more why OJ Howard would be available. Hmmm.. ? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rob-gronkowski-reportedly-reuniting-with-tom-brady-after-patriots-and-buccaneers-pull-off-shocking-trade/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Yeah just saw this too. Explains more why OJ Howard would be available. Hmmm.. ? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rob-gronkowski-reportedly-reuniting-with-tom-brady-after-patriots-and-buccaneers-pull-off-shocking-trade/ Seems fishy to me, like it was preplanned for a long time. See my edits in the first post. I think it was their plan all along. TB has enough to absorb Gronk's 10M but NE didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, adam said: Seems fishy to me, like it was preplanned for a long time. See my edits in the first post. I think it was their plan all along. TB has enough to absorb Gronk's 10M but NE didn't. And what’s more, in relation to OJ Howard he’s been on the trading block for a “few weeks” and initially it sounds as though TB had hoped to get at least a second round pick “straight-up”. Now they might settle for some lesser picks. Howard’s due to get a measly $1.8 million this year. Again...hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 I hope Tampa finishes under .500 this year and Brady gets pounded into the ground. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, Connorbear said: I hope Tampa finishes under .500 this year and Brady gets pounded into the ground. Peace The irony in all this is hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: And what’s more, in relation to OJ Howard he’s been on the trading block for a “few weeks” and initially it sounds as though TB had hoped to get at least a second round pick “straight-up”. Now they might settle for some lesser picks. Howard’s due to get a measly $1.8 million this year. Again...hmmm. I agree, if I am Pace, I am already on the phone with TB. It seems that they wouldn't even want another pick this year (they already had two 4ths), how about a pick in 2021, which would be more useful to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Connorbear said: I hope Tampa finishes under .500 this year and Brady gets pounded into the ground. Peace I hope so too, but they seem extra motivated to make a SB push like Denver did with Manning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 From April 8th, right before the OJ Howard stuff started: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Would NE be interested in Trubisky? They have 13 draft picks (and no 2nd rounders): 1st-23 3rd-87 3rd-98 3rd-100 4th-125 4th- (from Tampa) 5th-172 6th-195 6th-204 6th-212 6th-213 7th-230 or 241 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, adam said: Would NE be interested in Trubisky? Again...hmmm. Was going to pose this (or a similar question) but passed for fear of flaming... lol Wonder if the Bears looking for a QB isn’t on their radar (or should be) for this year? Like a Jalen Hurts... or Fromm... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 I don't think it made any difference had Brady stayed in NE Gronk was done there. He was not coming back. And they got a 4th for someone who was not going to play for them no matter what. Win Win Now how long have they been trying to work this out? For awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 one finer point: The Pats have to pay the guaranteed portion of Gronks contract whether he stays retired, plays for the Pats, or gets traded to TB. It's the same to NE's cap. The difference is that Gronk said he'd stay retired unless they traded him, so the Pats can upgrade a 7th round pick to a 4th round or not. And of course they chose to do that rather than spite Gronk. But the idea that Gronk waited until a certain moment to put NE into a bind isnt right. Instead, he worked this out before the draft where NE was more likely to be willing to do it. And they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 New England has a lot of picks. I wonder if they'll move up and grab a major QB prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 They did give us a 4th for Shea McCellin. Seriously they might but it would not be a high pick. And not sure of they cap situation, MT gets 9 mil this yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 The finances and picks and all that work out, but I don't see Belichick being a Trubisky fan at this point. But imagine the nightmare if Belichick took Trubisky, and turned him into a 10 year all pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 10 hours ago, BearFan NYC said: But imagine the nightmare if Belichick took Trubisky, and turned him into a 10 year all pro. ‘What if’ Belichick does as you suggest then waits until Shaheen is cut and adds him...then makes another 10 year run with both of them as key ingredients for 5 more SB wins? As the kids say nowadays...FML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 17 hours ago, adam said: Would NE be interested in Trubisky When I originally thought of trading Trubisky it was more with Jacksonville. Was thinking of a straight up trade with them for Fournette. Thing is it appears Jacksonville is turning into an all out dumpster fire. So who knows what could be gotten from them? Hell even Robinson is making a play for former teammate and recently released WR Marquise Lee. https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/4/21/21229602/jacksonville-jaguars-daily-allen-robinson-responds-to-marqise-lee-being-cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: ‘What if’ Belichick does as you suggest then waits until Shaheen is cut and adds him...then makes another 10 year run with both of them as key ingredients for 5 more SB wins? As the kids say nowadays...FML it would be SO cruel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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