Stinger226 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Kinda of slow now but I think June will bring some minicamps that will get the ball rolling. Seen an article on BearsWire on changing of the guard. Old starters:( end of year) new starters Floyd---------Quinn Prince -----Johnson HaHa---------- Gibson Coward----- IFEDI, Bars Burton------ Graham- Komet Kwit--------- Trevathan MT----------- Foles Williams ----- Hicks Gabriel ( 3rd wr)---------- ? Ridley, Ginn, Wims Lynch ( 3rd edge) Gibson If you look at the old and new starters, you would have to say the new group is a great deal better. Also take in consideration of breakout players like Daniels, Miller, Smith, Montgomery playing better, you would have to say this is a playoff contender. If we just get average play out of the QB position, this is a very good team. The weakness is the OL but should improve. Massey being healthy, IFEDI better than Coward, Whitehair ( best OL), Daniels taking a step forward and Leno playing better. Better depth with Bars and Spriggs, Coward in a backup role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 IF we can protect the QB, and IF we call a balanced game plan, and dont abandon the run, we do seem to have the talent to be a playoff contender. But many years the Yankees outspend the rest of MLB, and still fail to create a "team" so, we'll see. I hope they do come together, but after all we've been through, I'll believe it when I see it. If the OL still cant open holes or protect the QB the rest wont matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 I agree the OL still has to produce and better play calling is a must but the point I was trying to make is I think the roster is better. We were 8-8 with a disaster of an offense and an injury infested defense. I'm trying to look at the upside on offense but the defense is going to be killer. I think Smith steps up to be all pro this year along with Hicks, Mack, Fuller and EJac. If we end up with 5 pro bowlers on D , that's a nasty thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Stinger, I TOTALLY agree the roster is much better! And I think the defense has the possibility to be the best in the NFL. I wasnt rebutting you so much as expanding on what you said. Quinn is a really important piece. Nasty front indeed, with Fuller and Ejack behind them. Look out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted June 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 I seen an article on projecting defensive stats for our defense. I think it was a sports mockery writer. Mack- 14.5 Quinn-- 9.5 Hicks -- 10 A total of 55 sacks on the year. Do you think this is realistic or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: I seen an article on projecting defensive stats for our defense. I think it was a sports mockery writer. Mack- 14.5 Quinn-- 9.5 Hicks -- 10 A total of 55 sacks on the year. Do you think this is realistic or not? I dunno if some of them overlap and share the same sack, but yes, I think it will be very difficult to block everyone on our DL. If we had this defense and John Fox running the ball 70% of the time we'd sure win a lot of games. If Nagy can put up points with a high powwered offense, we are a possible SB contender, but I'll need to see it on the field before I actually believe anything like that. But the defense? Hell yes it will be nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 23 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Old starters:( end of year) new starters Floyd----Quinn (8 more sacks) Prince ---Johnson (wash with big upside) HaHa---------- Gibson (better box player) Coward----- IFEDI, Bars (I'm better than Coward) Burton------ Graham- Komet (12 more TD) Kwit--------- Trevathan (I'm on the fence) MT------ Foles (files will make definitely better and both are better than Daniels) Williams ----- Hicks (5 more sacks, plus 5 more for Mack) Gabriel ( 3rd wr)--? Ridley, Ginn, Wims (better) Lynch ( 3rd edge) Gibson (anything is better than Lynch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Stinger226 said: I seen an article on projecting defensive stats for our defense. I think it was a sports mockery writer. Mack- 14.5 Quinn-- 9.5 Hicks -- 10 A total of 55 sacks on the year. Do you think this is realistic or not? I added 18 more than last year from the presence of Quinn and Hicks. Mack will clown with those guys. 50 is not out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 On 5/31/2020 at 2:13 PM, Stinger226 said: Kinda of slow now but I think June will bring some minicamps that will get the ball rolling. Seen an article on BearsWire on changing of the guard. Old starters:( end of year) new starters Floyd---------Quinn Prince -----Johnson HaHa---------- Gibson Coward----- IFEDI, Bars Burton------ Graham- Komet Kwit--------- Trevathan MT----------- Foles Williams ----- Hicks Gabriel ( 3rd wr)---------- ? Ridley, Ginn, Wims Lynch ( 3rd edge) Gibson If you look at the old and new starters, you would have to say the new group is a great deal better. Also take in consideration of breakout players like Daniels, Miller, Smith, Montgomery playing better, you would have to say this is a playoff contender. If we just get average play out of the QB position, this is a very good team. The weakness is the OL but should improve. Massey being healthy, IFEDI better than Coward, Whitehair ( best OL), Daniels taking a step forward and Leno playing better. Better depth with Bars and Spriggs, Coward in a backup role. Floyd---------Quinn (Mack/Quinn are easily a top-3 Edge Rushing Duo, this is going to make the entire defense, especially the secondary a lot better) Prince -----Johnson (Johnson is a 1st round talent with fresh legs, this is another clear upgrade) HaHa---------- Gipson (If anything, this allows Jackson to play more in centerfield, which is a good thing) Coward----- Ifedi, Bars (Experience-wise, Ifedi brings a lot of starter experience to the line, hard to not see this as an upgrade to Long/Coward. Also, if Leno cuts down on his penalties, the O-Line looks a lot better even before adding Ifedi or Bars) Burton------ Graham- Kmet (Talk about a 180, this group almost becomes a strength of the offense, Graham can still catch and creates a ton of mismatches in the RZ, Kmet is very well rounded and will be like bringing in a young Greg Olsen back. Guys like Harris, Holtz, and Horsted go back to being backups) Kwit--------- Trevathan (to me this was a leadership move first, and technically, for the next year or maybe two, a performance move too. Long term, Kwit was the better option) MT----------- Foles (regardless which QB starts, we know the bar is going to be higher, so we know this position will at least be improved in 2020) Williams ----- Hicks (Williams was pretty good when getting some PT, but Hicks is a fringe All-Pro level player. If he can stay healthy, with the other additions, this defense may be better than 2018.) Gabriel (3rd wr)---------- ? Ridley, Ginn, Wims (Gabriel was already replaced by Miller - who looked really good late in the season, so essentially we need someone to replace Miller's early season output, which was not that much. I think we can find something out of Ridley, Wims, Ginn, or even Mooney.) Lynch (3rd edge) Gipson (Don't sleep on this one, Lynch was a penalty machine, so just adding some young legs who can spell Mack or Quinn with a decent pass rush will be an improvement over Lynch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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