BearFan PHX Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I think the Bears think they got a OL that can play several different positions which works out very well as a backup. sure, but their starters are backup level too, so they probably think they are creating a competition, so musical chairs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 I would love it if he is better than Leno, not sure they signed him to take his job though. Maybe we get lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 We have 8 CBs on the roster. Any of them going to push Trufant for a starting job? Take out Johnson and Shelly as CB and NB Tre Robinson Marqui Chirstian Xaiver Crawford Tez Tabor Kindle Vidor 4 Ss EJAC Bush Jordan Lucas DHC We need one more S or draft one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 12 hours ago, BearFan NYC said: but he was up for LT last year in Denver, Remember Vic Fangio is their head coach so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Damien Williams coming to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Damien Williams coming to town. Hmm...I recall him being the big hero in SB two years ago. Sounds like he has a history of injury BUT took last year off to care for a family member. So hopefully that translates to a good role player(?). Familiarity with both Nagy in KC and Lazor in Miami. KC fans aren’t happy about him leaving so that’s encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 I have to say, obviously we all have varying issues with Pace, but one thing he seems to be pretty good at is filling out the roster prior to the draft with players with starting experience so that he can go into the draft without a true need and go by his board. I mean, as things stand now, I’d say the only position we probably still need to address is starting caliber safety (even though I happen to think Deon Bush can still be pretty good) and maybe another veteran body at WR. There are lots of those still out there and I imagine those will still be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Best backup RB in a long time: https://www.nfl.com/news/damien-williams-agrees-to-one-year-deal-with-bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Updated as of 23MAR: GAINS: Dalton, QB (replaces Trubisky) - upgrade Trufant, CB (replaces Fuller) - downgrade Blackson, DL (replaces Urban) - wash Attaochu, OLB (replaces Mingo) - wash Wilkenson, OL (replaces Coward) - wash Jones, LB Willams, RB (replaces Nall) - upgrade LOSSES (with snap counts): Offense (Team High= 1066): Trubisky, QB (570) Massie, OT (470) + ST (26) Coward, OL (333) + ST (73) Harris, TE (215) + ST (169) Patterson, KR (201) + ST (146) Defense (Team High= 1060): Fuller, CB (1060) + ST (87) - Most snaps on defense, ouch! Gipson, S (1054) - 3rd most on defense, ouch! Skrine, CB (557) + ST (81) Mingo, LB (390) + ST (374) Urban, DE (370) + ST (158) Robertson-Harris, DE (245) + ST (80) Jenkins, DT (223) + ST (48) McManis, S (25) + ST (205) I only included players with at least 100 snaps. So the 3 biggest losses are still Fuller, Gipson, and Patterson. So if we can get a CB and Safety, this team should technically be better than 2020. Dalton is an upgrade, Williams as a change of pace back is something we lacked. Now Cohen becomes more explosive and Patterson is not running into the back of the O-Line. Attaochu is at least equal to Mingo and may actually be better on the Edge. Blackson is like a poor man's Hicks and should be able to match Urban's production and snap count. So the more I look at it, if the team can get S, CB, and the WR or OL, I think we will be pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 11:32 AM, Stinger226 said: Some FAs I would like to see come here. CB- Gareon Conley or Bashurd Breeland or A J Boyue RB-Duke Johnson or Damien Williams SS- Gibson should be the choice but literally 10 out there that would be okay. WR- Snead or Damarcus Robinson or Kenny Stills TE- Tyler Kroft Nice one Stinger! I was thinking Josh Reynolds at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 15 hours ago, adam said: Nice one Stinger! I was thinking Josh Reynolds at WR. He signed with someone but would have been my first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 bears are resigning Artie Burns/CB. I remember they signed him last year but what happened to him? Did he get hurt? Opted out? Or got cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: bears are resigning Artie Burns/CB. I remember they signed him last year but what happened to him? Did he get hurt? Opted out? Or got cut? COVID-19 Opt Out. He should be fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 According to an article on Bears.com Burns tore his ACL in August in training camp? Quote Burns, 25, originally joined the Bears last March after spending his first four NFL seasons with the Steelers. But he tore his ACL during a training camp practice in August and spent the entire season on injured reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 10:50 AM, adam said: Updated as of 23MAR: GAINS: Dalton, QB (replaces Trubisky) - upgrade Trufant, CB (replaces Fuller) - downgrade Blackson, DL (replaces Urban) - wash Attaochu, OLB (replaces Mingo) - wash Wilkenson, OL (replaces Coward) - wash Jones, LB Willams, RB (replaces Nall) - upgrade LOSSES (with snap counts): Offense (Team High= 1066): Trubisky, QB (570) Massie, OT (470) + ST (26) Coward, OL (333) + ST (73) Harris, TE (215) + ST (169) Patterson, KR (201) + ST (146) Defense (Team High= 1060): Fuller, CB (1060) + ST (87) - Most snaps on defense, ouch! Gipson, S (1054) - 3rd most on defense, ouch! Skrine, CB (557) + ST (81) Mingo, LB (390) + ST (374) Urban, DE (370) + ST (158) Robertson-Harris, DE (245) + ST (80) Jenkins, DT (223) + ST (48) McManis, S (25) + ST (205) I only included players with at least 100 snaps. Aren't Skrine and RRH both gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Aren't Skrine and RRH both gone? And Massie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 By Paces signings in FAgency, he is trying to fill needs with stop gap players so he can freely take the best players in each rounds. QB Dalton - I think he will be an upgrade over Foles and if the support group is upgraded, we can make the playoffs with him. RB Williams upgrades the RB room. With Cohen coming back this should be a strength. The biggest upgrade will not be trying to fit Patterson in the running game. WR Pace has yet to upgrade hear. Miller could be gone so I see this as a potential first round pick. TE Keeping Graham helps although I think they should ask him to take a pay cut. I think Komet has a breakout year, so we should be Okay at TE OL Bringing in Wilkenson and reupping Ifedi suggests they may not upgrade the OT position in the first couple of rounds. (mistake) I would love them to take Teven Jenkins at 1. CB Fuller is gone but with Burns being resigned and Trufant coming in, it will be in better shape than it looks. Also this could be a high round pick if the value is there. S DHC and Bush coming back gives us the depth, also dont forget we sighed Jordan Lucas last year and he opted out. IF we can upgrade Gibson or bring Gibson back we will be ok. OLB Jeremiah Attaochu is an upgrade over Mingo in the pass rush part of the game. Quinn can not play as bad as he did last year so we should get an upgrade here. Also T. Gibson should make a contribtion after his rooke year should very little. LB Jones is an upgrade over Iggy and Woods for sure. DL With them keeping Hicks (so far) and Goldman coming back this should be a strength again. Also Nichols should take a step forward and Blackson was a good addition. So the draft first 3 rounds could be any one of our needs. CB-QB-WR-OL. With three picks , I can see Pace moving back to get an extra 3rd or add a 4th and address all of those positions taking the BPA at our spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 16 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Aren't Skrine and RRH both gone? Yep, that's why they are listed under Losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said: And Massie? Yep, included under Losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 By Unit offseason changes: QB - upgrade (Dalton is better than Trubisky and Foles) RB - upgrade (Williams and Cohen back) WR - no change TE - no change OL - no change DL - upgrade (Goldman back, plus add Blackson) LB - upgrade (Attaochu and Jones) > Mingo/Woods/Iggy CB - downgrade (Loss of Fuller, gain Trufant, and Burns is re-signed) S - downgrade (Loss of Gipson without replacement) ST - downgrade (Loss of Patterson) So it looks like outside of two positions on defense (CB and S) and KR, we are already better than last year. The defensive front-7 is going to be crazy good and may make up for the loss of Fuller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 hours ago, adam said: Yep, that's why they are listed under Losses. Is Gipson gone or you counting all FAs as ‘losses’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Is Gipson gone or you counting all FAs as ‘losses’? Yep, he is in the losses until he re-signs. These are the current losses, if they have a strikethrough, that means the Bears have signed someone at their position. LOSSES (with snap counts): Offense (Team High= 1066): Trubisky, QB (570) Massie, OT (470) + ST (26) Coward, OL (333) + ST (73) Harris, TE (215) + ST (169) Patterson, KR (201) + ST (146) Defense (Team High= 1060): Fuller, CB (1060) Gipson, S (1054) Skrine, CB (557) Mingo, LB (390) Urban, DE (370) Robertson-Harris, DE (245) Jenkins, DT (223) McManis, S (25) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 2:37 PM, adam said: Offense (Team High= 1066): Trubisky, QB (570) Massie, OT (470) + ST (26) Coward, OL (333) + ST (73) Harris, TE (215) + ST (169) Patterson, KR (201) + ST (146) I see you already had Coward as a loss here but just saw the story about how and where he went. Funny back story. (PS: he signed a THREE YEAR DEAL?!?!). https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2021/03/29/rashaad-coward-going-to-the-steelers-was-apparently-scooped-by-a-redditor-playing-call-of-duty/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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