adam Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 These teams are fairly even going into this game. Mixon vs Monty. Red Rider Revenge Game. To me it comes down to execution. If the Bears players play up to expectations, the Bears win by 10. If they play how they did last week, they lose by at least 7. I am hoping for more Fields, just put the kid in already. I have really soured on Nagy and it feels like he is over his head and needs to give up playcalling. Bears 24-20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 We definitely will play better,(I hope) and I see it being close with a similar score. Dalton should be fired up to play his old team. Monty needs to get 20 carries for us to be in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Bears 27-20. Monty and Williams rush for 150+ combined. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Here is my new positive vibe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaBear Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 wish I was more optimistic.. I'm going with 28-17 Bengals.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 I have faith, but very guarded. Will be close but Bears 20-17(ish) can’t explain why. Maybe they actually pass down the field past 5-10 yards and the running game is productive. Maybe the defense will do what they’re supposed to. I’ll still watch to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 I've lost total faith in Nagy as a OC and play caller. I have not seen any evidence of him able to create a scheme and have a game plan and play calling to optimize their best players How often does a coach pull his best offense player after he runs for 41 yards. Whould you pull Payton, Sanders, Faulk, Smith, on and on. Your Rookie QB comes in and runs one nine yard pass to the one. He then takes him out for the mobile Dalton. He then has the smallest player, Byrd, to come in and block on some stupid shovel pass Thant ends up getting your LT rolled up on after losing your starting LT. The QB whisper'er has not done anything to whisper to a QB and the that playe improver. Oh he has a plan, and he helped Mahomes into a future HF. I think that happened despite of him. I don't believe it matters who he starts, tor ties o coach up. He is at best a 50-50 coach,.why should anyone believe in him to turn Fields into a franchise QB and not Ryan Leaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 I was watching Chris Carter on GMFB Thursday and he ripped Dalton in a fun sorta way. Basically, said he cost him 25k in a Pro Bowl game he was coaching because he was reluctant to drive his throws downfield. He then went on to state that it occurs when QB's get older and are not willing to take the hits anymore. It seems fitting seeing we didn't have a completed pass over 10 yards, with 13 yards being the longest attempt. If he doesn't push the ball this week, I'm afraid Nagy will put Fields in before he is ready. Meaning, the plan they put in place will have already failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 12:17 PM, Stinger226 said: Here is my new positive vibe Now that is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Some interesting things about Dalton stats-wise. He is progressively worse in splits from his own goal line to the opponents. I don't think I have ever seen splits so clean like that. His completion percentage goes from 69.86% when inside his own 10 down to 50% when inside the opponent's 10. The same for yards to go. He is actually better when there are more yards to go than less. He is actually a terrible short passer. When it is 3 or less yards to go, he completes only 56.98% of his passes and only has 68 first downs out of 257 completions and 451 attempts. So he only converts a pass with 3 or less yards to go into a first down 6.6% of the time, once every 15 tries. That is brutal! Dalton also gets worse as the game goes on. His highest completion % and rating is in the 1st quarter and lowest in the 4th quarter. The more I think about his usage, the more I think it is Pace telling Nagy to start Dalton so they don't lose face with other potential free agents about promises. How about stop promising players starting gigs until they earn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, adam said: The more I think about his usage, the more I think it is Pace telling Nagy to start Dalton so they don't lose face with other potential free agents about promises. How about stop promising players starting gigs until they earn it. Chris Carter talked about that too and said that is a real thing. He also talked about the fine line of, "ok, you kept your promise, now let's go!" The line will be clear today, as we are supposed to beat the Bengals. If not, there will a fly in the soup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/18/2021 at 8:28 AM, Mongo3451 said: I was watching Chris Carter on GMFB Thursday and he ripped Dalton in a fun sorta way. Basically, said he cost him 25k in a Pro Bowl game he was coaching because he was reluctant to drive his throws downfield. He then went on to state that it occurs when QB's get older and are not willing to take the hits anymore. It seems fitting seeing we didn't have a completed pass over 10 yards, with 13 yards being the longest attempt. If he doesn't push the ball this week, I'm afraid Nagy will put Fields in before he is ready. Meaning, the plan they put in place will have already failed. Nagy only put 3 plays in downfield and Dalton threw short. I think because of the question at LT the game plan was flawed which falls on Nagy. If Fields was there , you could role him to the right away from the problem spot, the problem was Dalton is stuck in the pocket. Another flaw was the East -West play calling for running, with shaky OTs you need to push north-south. The biggest problem with Nagy is he is a system guy and isnt changing anything because of personal. He's biggest failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Great first drive. A huge Defensive PI call (easy call) which would've been a catch if Goodwin wasn't pushed before the ball got there. Dalton looked good, not much of a running game, but you can't complain much with an opening TD drive to start the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 1st drive a combo of run pass (running didn’t work) and Andy throws a nice TD to ARob. Andy’s throws are accurate and a mix of short, medium and long range. Cincys D is not the Rams D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 The Bears stop the Bengals on 3rd Down and Gipson gets a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for taunting to give them a first down, WTF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Wow, Robert Quinn on a stunt for the sack on 3rd down to force a punt. That's half his sack total from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Robert Quinn back from the dead with a SACK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, adam said: The Bears stop the Bengals on 3rd Down and Gipson gets a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for taunting to give them a first down, WTF! Seemed like a chicken shit call. I understand the rule but still. Of course then a few plays later he (Gipson) was way to soft on coverage resulting in a first down catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, adam said: Wow, Robert Quinn on a stunt for the sack on 3rd down to force a punt. Noticed they ran he and Mack from the same side. Maybe more of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Gipson had that stupid penalty and left 15 yards of cushion for an easy 10 yard reception. He is the worst player on the starting defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 And…Nagy thinking he’s in control, wastes a timeout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, adam said: He is the worst player on the starting defense. Eddie Jackson: “hold my beer.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Sloppiest 1st quarter I’ve seen in a long time. Fortunately Cincy was sloppier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Sloppiest 1st quarter I’ve seen in a long time. Fortunately Cincy was sloppier. Refs calling too many ticky tack things. Then don't call DPI on Apple who went over the back of Goodwin on the Fields pass. Monty with a beautiful juke on the big play called back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Fields play count after 1 quarter - 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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