BearFan PHX Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 This draft is deep in QBs, OTs and WRs. Somewhere there's a set of moves, possibly trades, that will set us up really nicely. Not to mention we have a ton of cap money to spend on free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Cardinals are struck with Murray, they dont get cap relief from his contract until 2027. There are lots of good WRs in this draft , they may also trade back because of needs. They could trade back get a OT and a WR in the second. The top 2 picks will be QBs and doubt we will keep the top spot and draft MHJ. Giants have Jones for at least one year if not 2. The big money controls these situations. With Jones he has an out at the end of this next year - so giants are in a good spot. Murray is another situation though - tons of guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: This draft is deep in QBs, OTs and WRs. Somewhere there's a set of moves, possibly trades, that will set us up really nicely. Draft the deep spots and take your FA shots in the weak spots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Mongo3451 said: Draft the deep spots and take your FA shots in the weak spots... sounds right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Definitely his teammates love him. Intangibles come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: I dunno, I think it's just professional to support your QB. I would be very angry if DJ Moore had said anything different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Yeah don't look back at how DJ Moore talked about Sam Darnold, lol. I would say the most interesting part is saying he didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 No GM keeps a player just because he's a leader on the team and the players love him but that is part of the evaluation process. Its not just arm strength, passing traits. Other intangibles come into play. Jeff George had a great arm and didnt make it . Ryan Leaf, its a never ending story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 I thought this tweet was funny, but it does make a good point, we are always chasing the rainbow. Start Roschon Johnson @FieldsGoatQB1 · 19h 2017: Mitchell Trubisky?? 2021: FIELDS is THE franchise QB Chicago NEEDS 2024: CALEB WILLIAMS WILL SAVE US 2027: Arch Manning is a can’t miss GENERATIONAL TALENT! 2030: JULIAN SAYIN is a ONCE in a LIFETIME prospect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: I thought this tweet was funny, but it does make a good point, we are always chasing the rainbow. Start Roschon Johnson @FieldsGoatQB1 · 19h 2017: Mitchell Trubisky?? 2021: FIELDS is THE franchise QB Chicago NEEDS 2024: CALEB WILLIAMS WILL SAVE US 2027: Arch Manning is a can’t miss GENERATIONAL TALENT! 2030: JULIAN SAYIN is a ONCE in a LIFETIME prospect! You can go back in time too, Jay Cutler is the savior, Sexy Rexy, Cade McNown. The Bears have been so bad at evaluating QBs, at some point they have to luck into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 14 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: I dunno, I think it's just professional to support your QB. I would be very angry if DJ Moore had said anything different. Or he could have said nothing. ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 What a weird week, the top 4 QBs this week for QB Rating right now in the middle of the afternoon games: 1. Jake Browning - 122.7 QB Rating 2. Zach Wilson - 117.9 QB Rating 3. Drew Lock 116.5 QB Rating (only game in progress) 4. Bailey Zappe 115.2 QB Rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Or he could have said nothing. ??♂️ true. Im sure DJ likes JF - hes a very likeable leader. I just dont think any of these guys tells the straight unvarnished truth, and I wouldnt want them to anyway? I also think around the league, players see how good Justin is at what he does best, a baller, an incredible athlete doing eye opening things. So they probably all love him. And if he adds a consistent read and throw in rhythm, he will/would be a VERY good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Or he could have said nothing. ??♂️ I seen one interview where he said he was his best friend. People bond when they spend time together. He will have his best season ever with JF1 at QB. They have the highest QB rate between QB-WR in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 So I never liked how the Bears passed on Pickens - but understood why at the time given some of the character flags surrounding Pickens. Pickens went on to crush it in year 1 - but looking at year 2 - Pickens has been a complete distraction. Don't get me wrong - his production has been STRONG, but so much other stuff popping up. On flipside - Gordon and Brisker (in particular focusing on Brisker since Pickens went a few picks after him) are trending upwards. Gordon had slow start due to injury this year - but he's trending in right direction and is a physical force at nickel. Brisker - well at this point, I think he's on a trajectory of being an all pro. The only major question I have with him is can he stay healthy. The dude is a freaking stud who can change the game - but man does he throw his body around and I worry about the sustainability - but he seems like a great fit in lockeroom and a multiplier on the field. Maybe Poles knows a thing or to. Similarly - I know they passed on Carter - but Wright looks great and Sweat coming in over Young again looked like the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: So I never liked how the Bears passed on Pickens - but understood why at the time given some of the character flags surrounding Pickens. Pickens went on to crush it in year 1 - but looking at year 2 - Pickens has been a complete distraction. Don't get me wrong - his production has been STRONG, but so much other stuff popping up. On flipside - Gordon and Brisker (in particular focusing on Brisker since Pickens went a few picks after him) are trending upwards. Gordon had slow start due to injury this year - but he's trending in right direction and is a physical force at nickel. Brisker - well at this point, I think he's on a trajectory of being an all pro. The only major question I have with him is can he stay healthy. The dude is a freaking stud who can change the game - but man does he throw his body around and I worry about the sustainability - but he seems like a great fit in lockeroom and a multiplier on the field. Maybe Poles knows a thing or to. Similarly - I know they passed on Carter - but Wright looks great and Sweat coming in over Young again looked like the right move. Players like Brisker are what sets a physical tone for our defense . What he contributes to the new culture on this team is much more valuable than what Pickens could bring you. He was the captain at PSU and Poles was trying to build something here, so went with the guy that has passion and loves football. You dont want whiners in the locker room when you're trying to build new. In a few years our leadership will be built and we can handle some immature players. I think Poles gets it. Use Jenkins as an example. Because he didnt work hard in practice , he sat until he got the hits attitude embraced. He could have lost him but our best OLman bought in . I think Poles brings a Tomlin type attitude to the Bears as a GM. Flus fits that mold, that's why he choose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Players like Brisker are what sets a physical tone for our defense . What he contributes to the new culture on this team is much more valuable than what Pickens could bring you. He was the captain at PSU and Poles was trying to build something here, so went with the guy that has passion and loves football. You dont want whiners in the locker room when you're trying to build new. In a few years our leadership will be built and we can handle some immature players. I think Poles gets it. Use Jenkins as an example. Because he didnt work hard in practice , he sat until he got the hits attitude embraced. He could have lost him but our best OLman bought in . I think Poles brings a Tomlin type attitude to the Bears as a GM. Flus fits that mold, that's why he choose him. Flus said when they drafted Brisker it was because he loved football. You always see him trying to motivate his D all game. He has become one of my favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Players like Brisker are what sets a physical tone for our defense . What he contributes to the new culture on this team is much more valuable than what Pickens could bring you. Can you imagine if we replace Eddie Jackson with another one like Brisker? Our DB's would be elite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said: Can you imagine if we replace Eddie Jackson with another one like Brisker? Our DB's would be elite... for SURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Good read about Vikings defense. https://www.matchquarters.com/p/minnesota-vikings-hot-coverages-brian-flores?r=1m67m3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 What a wild MNF. Giants and Titans win to get their 5th wins AND the Packers lose. So the Bears got help in the draft and for playoff push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, adam said: What a wild MNF. Giants and Titans win to get their 5th wins AND the Packers lose. So the Bears got help in the draft and for playoff push. Illini alum DeVito orchestrates a game winning drive and Will Levis looks like a gem against the Phins, two exciting games that go our way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Illini alum DeVito orchestrates a game winning drive and Will Levis looks like a gem against the Phins, two exciting games that go our way! That was fun - 2 great games and great outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 12 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Illini alum DeVito orchestrates a game winning drive and Will Levis looks like a gem against the Phins, two exciting games that go our way! I liked him at Illinois, always thought he was scrappy and would be pretty good if he had real weapons around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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