BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, adam said: Unfortunately, we are done with the season a month earlier than last season. Fields will more than likely go on IR. There is no point bringing him back quickly if you are 1-5. There is even a remote chance they shut him down for the year to preserve his trade value. So he may have played his last snap as a Bear as crazy as that sounds. If he doesnt get more playing time to prove anything, I think youre right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 That is what passes with timing look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 So Bagent back to back completions to Moore, now Moore getting checked out on the sideline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 what? rhythm? timing? a first down? Two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 I'm not saying Bagent is the future or the best QB ever or anything, but I think we can now see CLEARLY how slow Fields is in making his reads. After the mountain of BS the last two weeks, can we see how bad JF is at playing QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Fields is trying to make some big plays when he didnt have time, the difference with Bagent, he just looks and throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: I'm not saying Bagent is the future or the best QB ever or anything, but I think we can now see CLEARLY how slow Fields is in making his reads. After the mountain of BS the last two weeks, can we see how bad JF is at playing QB? Yeah, things have to be much cleaner and clearer for Fields to play well in the pass game. Bagent may not be the guy, but he is a guy that looked much better in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, adam said: Yeah, things have to be much cleaner and clearer for Fields to play well in the pass game. Bagent may not be the guy, but he is a guy that looked much better in the pocket. Yeah Im not really saying anything about the future of Bagent (yet!) but he sure exposes Fields so bad. Just look at the spark our team has right now. They believe in Bagent more than Fields. Maybe they didnt even know that about themselves, but it's right there on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, BearFan PHX said: Yeah Im not really saying anything about the future of Bagent (yet!) but he sure exposes Fields so bad. Too small of a sample size right now, but if he leads another TD drive and the Bears take the lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Why not enjoy pulling within a score instead of bashing Fields. We have lots of holes that need addressing instead of using a no. 1 pick on another lottery pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Regardless of outcome, when the Bears defense purposely applies pressure, it works almost every time and they look great. When they rush 3 or 4 and drop everyone else back, the other team picks them apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, adam said: Too small of a sample size right now, but if he leads another TD drive and the Bears take the lead? LOL It's a great start, I dunno what it means for Bagent, but it sure indicts JF as a real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, 50england50 said: Why not enjoy pulling within a score instead of bashing Fields. We have lots of holes that need addressing instead of using a no. 1 pick on another lottery pick. Its not an emotional thing - its on tape. You change that one variable, and everything looks markedly different, how could we NOT notice? I want the Bears to be good. Im a Bears fan more than I am a fan of any player or coach on the team - especially when they are holding us back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 LOVE it - it looks so smooth. It looks like football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, BearFan PHX said: LOVE it - it looks so smooth. It looks like football! Sure does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 ah! he got hit as he threw - damn. That was gonna be a TD too. The reason the defender was able to get back to the ball was that he was beaten by the receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: I'm not saying Bagent is the future or the best QB ever or anything, but I think we can now see CLEARLY how slow Fields is in making his reads. After the mountain of BS the last two weeks, can we see how bad JF is at playing QB? So players are either, MVP or cut him? Fields didnt have any time and bad play calling, so he is crap? 2 weeks of Fields playing well was just bullshit? Hopefully Poles visits here so he knows he needs to cut him before he plays well again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Damn he had Moore, arm got hit. Moore came all the way back to force a fumble but not enough offensive players in pursuit to grab the fumble. This is still a badly coached, weak rostered team. Poles built this and we are now a year and a half into this and the team is arguably worse than it was when he took over. Outcoached every game. Now knowing they will run the ball, you now can't stop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Stinger226 said: So players are either, MVP or cut him? Fields didnt have any time and bad play calling, so he is crap? 2 weeks of Fields playing well was just bullshit? Hopefully Poles visits here so he knows he needs to cut him before he plays well again. dude its two+ years of bad play from Fields. Hes been taking forever to throw his entire NFL career. The idea was maybe he would learn and grow so his other extra skills could make him dangerous. Here you saw an experiment. same defense same day, and the difference was obvious. Bagent was an undrafted rookie in his first start with no preparation before coming off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: ah! arm got hit as he threw - damn. That was gonna be a TD too. The reason the defender was able to get back to the ball was that he was beaten by the receiver. Bagent comes in and fumbles the ball and then throws a terrible interception, we need to cut him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Improvement is not linear, but it also shouldn't be so volatile. There are very few average games for Fields. He is either really good or really bad. The defense held the Vikings to 13 pts. If Bagent's fumble doesn't get returned for 6, the Bears were in FG range to take the lead before that duck INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, adam said: Damn he had Moore, arm got hit. Moore came all the way back to force a fumble but not enough offensive players in pursuit to grab the fumble. This is still a badly coached, weak rostered team. Poles built this and we are now a year and a half into this and the team is arguably worse than it was when he took over. Outcoached every game. Now knowing they will run the ball, you now can't stop them. I think Poles is doing OK. We started with nothing, and I think the 2024 roster will be tight. The rest? You know I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Some players need time to be developed, and some come in and fumble and throw an interception in their first game but look good. Got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Bagent comes in and fumbles the ball and then throws a terrible interception, we need to cut him. He is Brock Purdy 2.0 if they can give him better protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Stinger226 said: Some players need time to be developed, and some come in and fumble and throw an interception in their first game but look good. Got it You didnt see the difference in rhythm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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