DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Baker is nearing a 3yr 100M deal with over 50M guaranteed to stay with Bucs. This is why I love getting Caleb. Fields is totally fine if he was willing to sign a below market deal - but paying mediocre qbs that sort of money is going to mire a franchise in mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Pixote said: Look no further than our DBs currently on our roster: Blackwell - 24 Brisker - 24 Gordon - 24 Hicks - 24 J Johnson - 24 Q Johnson - 24 Jones - 26 Smith - 24 Stevenson - 23 Stroman - 28 That has to be the youngest group of DBs in the league We needed a vet with experience to help this group reach its potential Bringing in a 30-year-old former pro bowler was important To he fair, JJ is a vet , he's just young. And yes Byard is a perfect fit. I'm also glad he has an easy name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 29 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: To he fair, JJ is a vet , he's just young. And yes Byard is a perfect fit. I'm also glad he has an easy name. Yes, but I had no idea he was so young. Great that we signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Not sure if this was posted. Justin Jones signs with Arizona.l, 3 years 30 million, 19.75 guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 17 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Not sure if this was posted. Justin Jones signs with Arizona.l, 3 years 30 million, 19.75 guaranteed. Isn't that crazy and Blair Nichols signed there for 20 mil. Also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 23 hours ago, Pixote said: Yes, but I had no idea he was so young. Great that we signed him. yeah, he'll be ready for another payday in 4 years, and I predict we keep him 3 and then trade him. That's what the good teams do, keep the young players coming through the pipeline and get trade value when they go because they still have value when you trade them. And I think you and I agree on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: yeah, he'll be ready for another payday in 4 years, and I predict we keep him 3 and then trade him. That's what the good teams do, keep the young players coming through the pipeline and get trade value when they go because they still have value when you trade them. And I think you and I agree on that? Don't take this wring but I totally agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Everyone here is talking about the same thing over and over again while there is other news to discuss. Looks like Poles is going with Bates at C and maybe a rookie if one is there in the 4th. Lloyd Cushenberry C sign w Ten 4 yr 50 Tyler Biadasz C signs w Was 3 yr 30 Andre James C - resigns with LV 3 yr 24 Aaron Brewer C signs with Mia 3 yr 21 Mitch Morse C sign w Jax 2 yr 10.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: And I think you and I agree on that? YES! That is how you play chess with your roster. Strategically plotting future moves to maximize the value of your players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Everyone here is talking about the same thing over and over again while there is other news to discuss. Looks like Poles is going with Bates at C and maybe a rookie if one is there in the 4th. Lloyd Cushenberry C sign w Ten 4 yr 50 Tyler Biadasz C signs w Was 3 yr 30 Andre James C - resigns with LV 3 yr 24 Aaron Brewer C signs with Mia 3 yr 21 Mitch Morse C sign w Jax 2 yr 10.5 I talk to Greg Gabriel on X and that's exactly what he said. Bates plus a draftee. I think that totally says Poles is going to get us a second round pick and draft a center. Mort likely Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Pixote said: YES! That is how you play chess with your roster. Strategically plotting future moves to maximize the value of your players. ^5 - i think once we get past this logjam, things will get easier on this board. I think poles brings in his guys that make sense and everything works. Right now were kind of at a trouble spot that has to do with high picks that didnt work out, or didnt work out as well as planned, or because they didnt have the right tools around them etc. Whatever it is, we should be in the Poles' flow by this year or next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 10 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Everyone here is talking about the same thing over and over again while there is other news to discuss. Looks like Poles is going with Bates at C and maybe a rookie if one is there in the 4th. Lloyd Cushenberry C sign w Ten 4 yr 50 Tyler Biadasz C signs w Was 3 yr 30 Andre James C - resigns with LV 3 yr 24 Aaron Brewer C signs with Mia 3 yr 21 Mitch Morse C sign w Jax 2 yr 10.5 Yeah, put me down as disappointed. My only complaint on Poles was that he didn't get us a center last year and it killed us. If it kills us again, it will be unforgivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Minnesota signs QB Sam Darnold 1 yr 10 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Holy WR, Mooney signs a 3 years 39 mil deal with Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 11 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Holy WR, Mooney signs a 3 years 39 mil deal with Atlanta. League is saying - we have watched the film - Chiefs were all over him as well. They are saying - Mooney was open a TON and the QB wasn't finding him. Maybe the league is wrong - we will see, but Mooney was highly productive until he wasn't the #1 option and than production shrunk completely. How Falcons can make it all work I don't know. I was quietly hoping we would get Mooney back for like 10M per year cause I always respect how he went about his work, but good for him and I wish him the best. Falcons have some weapons for Cousin(s) - they are actually going to be pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 A report out there that Bears were the runner up for Gabe Davis - who signed with Jags. He is from Florida so wanted to head back home - which is understandable. Also - this is a good time to remember the dangers and pitfalls of FA. When you look back 2 or 3 years at the top FA targets - the majority DID NOT live up to expectations. So while we all want all the big moves - its important to know the failure rate here is high - hence why hitting on draft picks and than using cap space to retain your own draft picks for a 2nd contract is so key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: A report out there that Bears were the runner up for Gabe Davis - who signed with Jags. He is from Florida so wanted to head back home - which is understandable. Also - this is a good time to remember the dangers and pitfalls of FA. When you look back 2 or 3 years at the top FA targets - the majority DID NOT live up to expectations. So while we all want all the big moves - its important to know the failure rate here is high - hence why hitting on draft picks and than using cap space to retain your own draft picks for a 2nd contract is so key. right - develop players, sign some, trade the others a year before the big deal. Effectively, it becomes almost like a college program, and thats when your position coaches become so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 I am guessing Samuel or Ridley are next shoe to drop and Bears name will be next to one of those two. Probably for more money than any of us would have preferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: A report out there that Bears were the runner up for Gabe Davis - who signed with Jags. He is from Florida so wanted to head back home - which is understandable. Also - this is a good time to remember the dangers and pitfalls of FA. When you look back 2 or 3 years at the top FA targets - the majority DID NOT live up to expectations. So while we all want all the big moves - its important to know the failure rate here is high - hence why hitting on draft picks and than using cap space to retain your own draft picks for a 2nd contract is so key. That is more the norm. Poles isn't giving big deals, except to a selected few. He is building thru the draft. Big contract failure will doom a GM quicker than drafting the wrong first pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Big contract failure will doom a GM quicker than drafting the wrong first pick! Unless you’re John Lynch and you make up for it by going to the SB with ‘Mr Irrelevant.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 12 Author Report Share Posted March 12 How the rest of the spots may get filled. I am hoping for at least a 25% accuracy with this lol: 1. G/C - Patrick (50.5/953) > Evan Brown 2. C/G - Whitehair (45.0/787) > Brian Allen 3. WR - Mooney (55.2/764) > Curtis Samuel 4. DT - Jones (49.3/740) > Poona Ford 5. DE - Ngakoue (39.9/592)> DJ Wonnum 6. DE - Green (50.6/385) > Shaw Lawson 7. TE - Lewis (77.1/330) > Adam Trautman 8. WR - St. Brown (55.1/211) > Tyler Boyd 9. WR/PR - Taylor (51.8/121) > Braxton Berrios 10. LB - Cole (50.1/3)> Matt Eberflus's Goatee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 It seems Poles is staying true to form. He has said in the past that many players in the first wave of free agency are quite often overpaid because of teams' frantic efforts to outbid each other for specific players. With his emphasis on improving the Bears' roster with player upgrades, he is doing so with players from the second and sometimes the third (after draft) FA periods. Sitting here today, I see so many players I would have loved for Poles to sign. However, if he had signed all of them, the Bears would have been back in Salary Cap Hell. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 21 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: A report out there that Bears were the runner up for Gabe Davis - who signed with Jags Saw the numbers on his deal, (allegedly) he was offered 3 years $39 million from both Chicago and Jax. For perspective, recently departed Darnell Mooney was offered 3 years $30 million from Chicago. But instead took 3 years $39 million to join Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 If Joey Bosa gets cut - he could be a very interesting signing, if the Bears think they know how to solve his injury issues (or if it was more fluke the last 2 seasons)? When he's healthy he is a difference maker. Chase Young is also interesting. He hasn't been the player everyone thought he should be - but he still had 7.5 sacks this past year and is still very young (24 years old). Sweat knows him well - he clearly has some "Claypool" in him, but if he had an awakening this year and went into a good off-season he could be a very good buy-low candidate (not cheap - cause pass rusher(s) cost money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: If Joey Bosa gets cut - he could be a very interesting signing, if the Bears think they know how to solve his injury issues (or if it was more fluke the last 2 seasons)? When he's healthy he is a difference maker. Chase Young is also interesting. He hasn't been the player everyone thought he should be - but he still had 7.5 sacks this past year and is still very young (24 years old). Sweat knows him well - he clearly has some "Claypool" in him, but if he had an awakening this year and went into a good off-season he could be a very good buy-low candidate (not cheap - cause pass rusher(s) cost money). Big no on Young, not worth the chance of him waking up. Poles wants a mentality and culture of team players that buy into HITS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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