adam Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 We used to do a mock draft where people were GMs of different teams and we drafted in order, day by day, leading up to the draft. We don't have enough members to do that properly, but an easy alternative is doing a top 15 Mock Draft. I can consolidate the selections and produce a TalkBears consensus mock draft. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 On 3/19/2024 at 12:40 PM, adam said: We used to do a mock draft where people were GMs of different teams and we drafted in order, day by day, leading up to the draft. We don't have enough members to do that properly, but an easy alternative is doing a top 15 Mock Draft. I can consolidate the selections and produce a TalkBears consensus mock draft. Thoughts? Expand Anytime you want to get started. Will you use Draft Network simulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 On 3/19/2024 at 12:40 PM, adam said: We used to do a mock draft where people were GMs of different teams and we drafted in order, day by day, leading up to the draft. We don't have enough members to do that properly, but an easy alternative is doing a top 15 Mock Draft. I can consolidate the selections and produce a TalkBears consensus mock draft. Thoughts? Expand Anytime you want to get started. Will you use Draft Network simulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 19, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 On 3/19/2024 at 1:01 PM, Stinger226 said: Anytime you want to get started. Will you use Draft Network simulator? Expand Anytime, just post the mock of the top 15 picks on how you see it playing out. You can use whatever simulator you want, or do it manually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 On 3/19/2024 at 1:17 PM, adam said: Anytime, just post the mock of the top 15 picks on how you see it playing out. You can use whatever simulator you want, or do it manually. Expand It's bedtime in Thailand, tomorrow. So we go straight or figure in trades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 19, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 On 3/19/2024 at 2:47 PM, Stinger226 said: It's bedtime in Thailand, tomorrow. So we go straight or figure in trades? Expand If you believe there will be a trade, put it in. Minnesota and Arizona makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 19, 2024 Report Share Posted March 19, 2024 On 3/19/2024 at 2:49 PM, adam said: If you believe there will be a trade, put it in. Minnesota and Arizona makes a lot of sense. Expand That does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 OK, if you want to participate, please post your projected top 15 mock draft, with trades. I will then collate the results and post what the consensus of the board looks like before the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 This post was recognized by adam! Mongo3451 was awarded the badge 'Superstar' and 10 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 This post was recognized by adam! Stinger226 was awarded the badge 'Superstar' and 10 points. 1. Bears Caleb Williams 2 Washington Jayden Daniels 3 NE JJ McCarthy 4 AZ trade with Vikings who take Drake Maye 5 SD MHJ 6 Giants Malek Nabers 7 Titans Joe Alt 8 Atl Dallas Turner 9 Bears trade with Denver , they take Bo Nix 10 Jets Taliese Fuage 11 AZ Rome Odunze 12 Bears Jared Verse 13 Las Vegas Michael Penix 14 NO Olu Fashanu 15 Indy Brock Bowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 30, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 Thanks Gents, I will post a running tally weekly up until the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 This post was recognized by adam! Pixote was awarded the badge 'Superstar' and 10 points. 01- Chicago - QB Caleb Williams 02- Washington - QB Jayden Daniels 03- New England - QB J.J. McCarty 04- Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison, Jr. 05- LA Chargers - WR Rome Odunze 06- NY Giants - QB Drake Maye 07- Tennessee - OL Joe Alt 08- Atlanta - EDGE Dallas Turner 09- Chicago - WR Malik Nabers 10- NY Jets - TE Brock Bowers 11- Minnesota - QB Bo Nix 12- Denver - QB Michael Penix, Jr. 13- LV Raiders - OL Taliese Fuaga 14- New Orleans - EDGE Jared Verse 15- Indianapolis - CB Terrion Arnold I'm sure there will be multiple trades in the top 15, but I'm not savvy enough to predict them, so I left it as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 3:50 PM, Pixote said: 01- Chicago - QB Caleb Williams 02- Washington - QB Jayden Daniels 03- New England - QB J.J. McCarty 04- Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison, Jr. 05- LA Chargers - WR Rome Odunze 06- NY Giants - QB Drake Maye 07- Tennessee - OL Joe Alt 08- Atlanta - EDGE Dallas Turner 09- Chicago - WR Malik Nabers 10- NY Jets - TE Brock Bowers 11- Minnesota - QB Bo Nix 12- Denver - QB Michael Penix, Jr. 13- LV Raiders - OL Taliese Fuaga 14- New Orleans - EDGE Jared Verse 15- Indianapolis - CB Terrion Arnold I'm sure there will be multiple trades in the top 15, but I'm not savvy enough to predict them, so I left it as is. Expand If there is that much interest in Nix and Penix, then i hope they go before 9 so even more players fall to us or we are able to trade down a bit to get the same players. Very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 3:56 PM, BearFan PHX said: If there is that much interest in Nix and Penix, then i hope they go before 9 so even more players fall to us or we are able to trade down a bit to get the same players. Very cool. Expand Agree. Teams are desperate for QBs, so I think there is a chance they reach for one who would otherwise be drafted late rd 1 or rd 2. My dream draft, although I doubt it happens, Bears draft Caleb Williams and Rome Odunze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 3:50 PM, Pixote said: 01- Chicago - QB Caleb Williams 02- Washington - QB Jayden Daniels 03- New England - QB J.J. McCarty 04- Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison, Jr. 05- LA Chargers - WR Rome Odunze 06- NY Giants - QB Drake Maye 07- Tennessee - OL Joe Alt 08- Atlanta - EDGE Dallas Turner 09- Chicago - WR Malik Nabers 10- NY Jets - TE Brock Bowers 11- Minnesota - QB Bo Nix 12- Denver - QB Michael Penix, Jr. 13- LV Raiders - OL Taliese Fuaga 14- New Orleans - EDGE Jared Verse 15- Indianapolis - CB Terrion Arnold I'm sure there will be multiple trades in the top 15, but I'm not savvy enough to predict them, so I left it as is. Expand Wow, pretty close to the one I will post in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 This post was recognized by adam! ASHKUM BEAR was awarded the badge 'Superstar' and 10 points. Here is my take, did the complete round 1. Bears end up with: 1.1 Caleb Williams QB 1.17 Brian Thomas Jr WR. (9 for 17, 48, 2025 3rd) 2.48 Darius Robinson DE 3.75 Branden Fiske DT 4.122 Tanor Bortolini C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 4:40 PM, ASHKUM BEAR said: Here is my take, did the complete round 1. Bears end up with: 1.1 Caleb Williams QB 1.17 Brian Thomas Jr WR. (9 for 17, 48, 2025 3rd) 2.48 Darius Robinson DE 3.75 Branden Fiske DT 4.122 Tanor Bortolini C Expand I like the players you selected for the Bears. You managed to grab our top 5 needs in the four rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 4:40 PM, ASHKUM BEAR said: Here is my take, did the complete round 1. Bears end up with: 1.1 Caleb Williams QB 1.17 Brian Thomas Jr WR. (9 for 17, 48, 2025 3rd) 2.48 Darius Robinson DE 3.75 Branden Fiske DT 4.122 Tanor Bortolini C Expand good one - I like Fiske if he is available somewhere after the first two picks we make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 30, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 OK, with 4 drafts in, we are starting to see some trends. The draft is sorted by average draft position, Orange boxes are Bears selections, Green is the most common selection with 75% or higher rate for that slot, and Green difference is the lowest variance so far. Just based off 4 drafts, Williams, Daniels, McCarthy, Maye, Harrison, and Alt are the only players always selected before #9. So it feels like the chance of any of those 6 at #9 is very low. Nabers, Turner, Odunze have selections inside and outside of the top 8. So there is a chance that one of them is there at #9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 3:56 PM, BearFan PHX said: If there is that much interest in Nix and Penix, then i hope they go before 9 so even more players fall to us or we are able to trade down a bit to get the same players. Very cool. Expand Penix I could see making it into top 10 given how critical qb is. Penix is also good - I think Caleb / JJ / Penix are my 3 favorite qbs. Nix I don’t like at all. Daniel’s I worry for injury and Maye is talented but has a lot to work on. But if somehow Nix and Maye went top 10 or there was a push and teams wanted to jump Denver or Oakland to secure and kind of overpay for us to move down 2-3 spots that would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 30, 2024 Report Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 11:30 PM, DABEARSDABOMB said: Penix I could see making it into top 10 given how critical qb is. Penix is also good - I think Caleb / JJ / Penix are my 3 favorite qbs. Expand Thats how I see it too. Penix is a stud, but hes older, so maybe his future ceiling is lower, having already grown, and i think he has a bunch of injuries, but the ball sure does come off of his hand hot. Also the three you mentioned are the ones who read the field the best - the do the best "quarterbacking" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2024 On 3/30/2024 at 11:42 PM, BearFan PHX said: Thats how I see it too. Penix is a stud, but hes older, so maybe his future ceiling is lower, having already grown, and i think he has a bunch of injuries, but the ball sure does come off of his hand hot. Also the three you mentioned are the ones who read the field the best - the do the best "quarterbacking" Expand How do you evaluate a 23-year old QB playing against 18 year olds? He didn't really do anything until he was 22, and then was throwing to Odunze, Polk, and McMillan with a top 20 OT the last two seasons. How many QBs that joined the league at 23 or older (he will be 24 in May) succeeded in the NFL? I think the risk is that they have already developed, that you can't get much more out of them, so unless they are truly elite, then more than likely, they are already where they are going to be at. Since 1967, there have only been 5 QBs drafted in the first round who were 24 or older on opening day of their rookie season, and Penix would end up as the 3rd oldest. 1. Brandon Weeden 28.9 (6-19, 184 YPG) 2. Jim Druckenmiller 25.0 (1-0, 39.8 YPG) < - Michael Penix Jr - 24.3 > 3. Chad Pennington 24.2 (44-37, 200 YPG) 4. Ryan Tannehill 24.1 (81-70, 225 YPG) 5. Akili Smith 24.0 (3-14, 100.5 YPG) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 31, 2024 Report Share Posted March 31, 2024 On 3/31/2024 at 12:23 AM, adam said: On 3/30/2024 at 11:42 PM, BearFan PHX said: Thats how I see it too. Penix is a stud, but hes older, so maybe his future ceiling is lower, having already grown, and i think he has a bunch of injuries, but the ball sure does come off of his hand hot. Also the three you mentioned are the ones who read the field the best - the do the best "quarterbacking" How do you evaluate a 23-year old QB playing against 18 year olds? He didn't really do anything until he was 22, and then was throwing to Odunze, Polk, and McMillan with a top 20 OT the last two seasons. Expand I thought he was pretty good at Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 31, 2024 Report Share Posted March 31, 2024 Yeah I'm not crapping on Penix - I would rather have him than Daniels or Maye if that was the choice. Im just saying there are historical reasons why his value should be lower. But I cant say that he wont continue to grow in the NFL. Im just glad it's not a bet I have to make! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2024 On 3/31/2024 at 12:48 AM, Mongo3451 said: I thought he was pretty good at Indiana Expand I didn't watch many Indiana games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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